Topic: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....  (Read 5962 times)

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The Postman

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Re: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2003, 06:04:36 pm »
If you dont change the fighter list, you will see Raven III's in 2243.  

mdutr0

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Re: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2003, 06:08:45 pm »
Yes, but why doesn't the game run at all????


Thanks,

Micah  

DH123

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Re: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2003, 06:19:16 pm »
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Yes, but why doesn't the game run at all????


Thanks,

Micah  




Did you replace the files in MetaAssets?  

mdutr0

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Re: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2003, 06:33:01 pm »
yep sure did....


There's not a time.gf file anywhere else is there?

Thanks,

Micah  

mdutr0

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Re: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....
« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2003, 08:43:10 pm »
 It still won't run!!!

 Does the game have a time limit on it? Does it have a limit as to how far you can roll back the clock???

Thanks,

Micah  

Sethan

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Re: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2003, 12:11:07 pm »
You tried to make all your changes at once.  One or more of them does not work.

Try making just the date change with stock shiplists and other files and see if that works - then make one change at a time to see which one breaks it.

mdutr0

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Re: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2003, 01:41:33 pm »
Excellent idea Sethan!

So.... I did that and now it works for some odd reason....

But now, if you look at the dates that the ships come out in the vessel library screen, it has the ships coming out 34 years LATER than they are supposed to....

Was I supposed to alter the SFB dates in the shiplist as well??

Thanks,

Micah  

Karnak

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Re: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2003, 02:20:42 pm »
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No way, I suppose, to tell the AI which drones to use no matte which drones are available???

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Micah  




Talk to the Scripters like Tracy G, Karnak, and Evil Dave.  They'll know more about this and can tell you which missions to use when putting this on e D2 9if you intend on doing so).  




Before the OP 2552 patch that fix the med. drone implementation date to Y2268, I had intended to make all AI use slow drones in Early Era. However; now with the patch if I did that then med. drones would not appear until Y2273 so I don't think I want to do that in the EEK missions.  

I have a simple and dirty solution. Since the Early Era from 2229 to 2260 is pretty stable in ship advancement why not just draw out the turn time on the dyna between Y2263 and Y2267.  Make each dyna turn take 4 or 5 days so it will take 20 to 25 days to get from Y2263 to Y2267.  Then you can use the YFA settings to correspond to decades instead of years so 1 year would roughly equal one decade.  The stardate on the actual dyna does not have to be accurate, just the actual passage of time for the dyna to complete.

mdutr0

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ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....
« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2003, 07:31:11 pm »
 Hi -

   I am making a mod to turn back the clock on the game to the year 2229, one year before the first F-CA, the Constitution, makes her maiden voyage.  Now, I'm not using your shiplist, given that's it's twice as long as the original, since I've had to alter the "year first available" and "year last available" columns by hand.

 I would, however, like permission to use your shipnames file in the mod since it's the best of its kind that I've ever seen.
I would, of course, give you credit for it in the mod's readme should it ever be distributed.

Thanks,

Micah

 

FireSoul

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Re: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....
« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2003, 07:57:05 pm »
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 Hi -

   I am making a mod to turn back the clock on the game to the year 2229, one year before the first F-CA, the Constitution, makes her maiden voyage.  Now, I'm not using your shiplist, given that's it's twice as long as the original, since I've had to alter the "year first available" and "year last available" columns by hand.

 I would, however, like permission to use your shipnames file in the mod since it's the best of its kind that I've ever seen.
I would, of course, give you credit for it in the mod's readme should it ever be distributed.

Thanks,

Micah
   




Shipnames?
Sure! Feel Free.

mdutr0

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Re: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....
« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2003, 08:04:20 pm »
Thank you very much!


Micah  

DH123

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Re: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....
« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2003, 08:04:26 pm »
Me want to play this!!!!      

mdutr0

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Re: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2003, 08:24:16 pm »
No problem!


 So far, I have:

1.Reset the time.gf file

2.Adjusted the "year first available" and "year last available" columns on the original shiplist

  Now, I'm assembling the models I would like to put in the mod.  All of the fed models are likely to be replaced since most of the stock models are a bit angular.... I will also employ a strategy similar to that of FireSoul in OP+ and make the style of the models coincide with the era in which they are first available.  I will  also be sticking in a few TOS klingon models.  I may possibly use the SFB models for some of the other races early ships, but I may just leave well enough alone with them.

Bear in mind though that technological advances and refits are going to be fewer and farther between up until around ~2260.  When they do come though they will hit hard and fast. Also depending on your race, heavy cruisers may not be available right off the bat in the campaign game (i.e. romulans have the WB+ which is the old, pre-warp warbird even though it is listed as a frigate).

Basically, what I've done is to lengthen the Early era significantly so that it begins much earlier in the TOS period than the original game. This will allow you to actually enjoy those early era ships rather than watching them get blown out of the water by a ship created 30 years later, but still listed as an "Early era" design!!!!

Just for some perspective, Kirk's first 5-year mission begins ~2263.   This mod will start you at 2229.....

Thanks,

Micah  

DH123

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Re: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....
« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2003, 08:27:10 pm »
Just remember, I think Medium drones come out Year 5 so be careful    

mdutr0

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Re: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....
« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2003, 08:37:06 pm »
True, but now year 5 is year 39.


As soon as you get to year 34 (which is 2263, the year the game currently starts) the game is exactly as it is now.

Thanks,

Micah  

The Postman

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Re: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....
« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2003, 08:49:01 pm »
In your set up the med drones will come out in 2234 and the fast in 2247. The ships will come out on time but you will be dealing with drones that are too fast for much of the early era.    

mdutr0

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Re: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....
« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2003, 08:50:19 pm »
Hmmmmm....... I see what you're saying.    

Do you know how to correct this problem???

Thanks,

Micah  

The Postman

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Re: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....
« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2003, 09:06:57 pm »
 http://forums.taldren.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=193641&Forum=All_Forums&Words=time.gf&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=6months&Main=193624&Search=true#Post193641  

I tried to do this my self as you can see. I have already converted the FED part of the 3.1 shiplist. I found the drone issue kills the whole thing. the drone dates are hard coded to begin 5 and 18 years after the start of the game no matter what year you start. I can't think of any work around to this issue. If you would like the work I have already done to this, I still have it.  

mdutr0

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Re: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....
« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2003, 09:13:00 pm »
Damn.  I was wondering whether or not someone had already tried this.....

Any suggestions?  The honor system?  Will the AI necessarily take advantage of the super-early availablility???

Thanks,

Micah  

The Postman

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Re: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....
« Reply #39 on: November 30, 2003, 09:27:01 pm »
I found the Klingons and the Mirak AI always had the faster drones within 1 year of their coming out.