Topic: ATTN. FireSoul - I need your permission....

[mdutr0]

 Hi -

   I am making a mod to turn back the clock on the game to the year 2229, one year before the first F-CA, the Constitution, makes her maiden voyage.  Now, I'm not using your shiplist, given that's it's twice as long as the original, since I've had to alter the "year first available" and "year last available" columns by hand.

 I would, however, like permission to use your shipnames file in the mod since it's the best of its kind that I've ever seen.
I would, of course, give you credit for it in the mod's readme should it ever be distributed.

Thanks,

Micah

 

[FireSoul]

Quote:
 Hi -

   I am making a mod to turn back the clock on the game to the year 2229, one year before the first F-CA, the Constitution, makes her maiden voyage.  Now, I'm not using your shiplist, given that's it's twice as long as the original, since I've had to alter the "year first available" and "year last available" columns by hand.

 I would, however, like permission to use your shipnames file in the mod since it's the best of its kind that I've ever seen.
I would, of course, give you credit for it in the mod's readme should it ever be distributed.

Thanks,

Micah
   

Shipnames?
Sure! Feel Free.

[mdutr0]

Thank you very much!


Micah  

[DH123]

Me want to play this!!!!      

[mdutr0]

No problem!


 So far, I have:

1.Reset the time.gf file

2.Adjusted the "year first available" and "year last available" columns on the original shiplist

  Now, I'm assembling the models I would like to put in the mod.  All of the fed models are likely to be replaced since most of the stock models are a bit angular.... I will also employ a strategy similar to that of FireSoul in OP+ and make the style of the models coincide with the era in which they are first available.  I will  also be sticking in a few TOS klingon models.  I may possibly use the SFB models for some of the other races early ships, but I may just leave well enough alone with them.

Bear in mind though that technological advances and refits are going to be fewer and farther between up until around ~2260.  When they do come though they will hit hard and fast. Also depending on your race, heavy cruisers may not be available right off the bat in the campaign game (i.e. romulans have the WB+ which is the old, pre-warp warbird even though it is listed as a frigate).

Basically, what I've done is to lengthen the Early era significantly so that it begins much earlier in the TOS period than the original game. This will allow you to actually enjoy those early era ships rather than watching them get blown out of the water by a ship created 30 years later, but still listed as an "Early era" design!!!!

Just for some perspective, Kirk's first 5-year mission begins ~2263.   This mod will start you at 2229.....

Thanks,

Micah  

[DH123]

Just remember, I think Medium drones come out Year 5 so be careful    

[mdutr0]

True, but now year 5 is year 39.


As soon as you get to year 34 (which is 2263, the year the game currently starts) the game is exactly as it is now.

Thanks,

Micah  

[The Postman]

In your set up the med drones will come out in 2234 and the fast in 2247. The ships will come out on time but you will be dealing with drones that are too fast for much of the early era.    

[mdutr0]

Hmmmmm....... I see what you're saying.    

Do you know how to correct this problem???

Thanks,

Micah  

[The Postman]

 http://forums.taldren.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=193641&Forum=All_Forums&Words=time.gf&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=6months&Main=193624&Search=true#Post193641  

I tried to do this my self as you can see. I have already converted the FED part of the 3.1 shiplist. I found the drone issue kills the whole thing. the drone dates are hard coded to begin 5 and 18 years after the start of the game no matter what year you start. I can't think of any work around to this issue. If you would like the work I have already done to this, I still have it.  

[mdutr0]

Damn.  I was wondering whether or not someone had already tried this.....

Any suggestions?  The honor system?  Will the AI necessarily take advantage of the super-early availablility???

Thanks,

Micah  

[The Postman]

I found the Klingons and the Mirak AI always had the faster drones within 1 year of their coming out.  

[DH123]

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Any suggestions?  The honor system?  Will the AI necessarily take advantage of the super-early availablility???

Thanks,

Micah  

1.   Use Missions which DO NOT use drones that are faster than Speed 16 . ..
2.  Set Drone prices to be outlandiashly expensive on the D2 (1,000,000 PP each) so nobody can afford an upgrade.  

[mdutr0]

No way, I suppose, to tell the AI which drones to use no matte which drones are available???

Thanks,

Micah  

[DH123]

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No way, I suppose, to tell the AI which drones to use no matte which drones are available???

Thanks,

Micah  

Talk to the Scripters like Tracy G, Karnak, and Evil Dave.  They'll know more about this and can tell you which missions to use when putting this on e D2 9if you intend on doing so).  

[mdutr0]

I haven't really thought about what I intend to do with it.... At first it was just for my personal use in single player, and now it seems to be becoming a full fledged mod!!! That's cool though.  

First, however, I'd like to concentrate on getting it to work in single player before I worry about the D2.

Thanks,

Micah  

[mdutr0]

So is it possible to script out the medium and fast missles until years 39 and 52 respectively???

I thought that scripts were only for individual missions, not overall game settings.....

Thanks,

Micah  

[mdutr0]

The game doesn't run now!!!


I put my new shiplists in the various places and the new time.gf file and now all I get is a ovely view of my desktop when I try to start a campaign.


Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Micah  

[The Postman]

Start a new campaign.  You may have to delete all of the saves.  

[mdutr0]

I did.


Do I have to alter the fighter list as well?/???


Thanks,

Micah