Topic: EEK-OP v2.1 - Total War Mission Pack

[Karnak]

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I guess the only issue to watch out for with the stock and OP+ shiplists are the CVs, where they are used across the scale for any hull size.

Yes, CVs are the class in most need of re-classification; then, there are the Heavy War Destroyers, X-Ships and Mirv-armed ships;  and, that will cover most of the relevent ships with regards to mission difficulty.  

The rest regarding tugs, diplomatic vessels, Minor-Race ships (ie. LDR and WYN), and other odd-ball ships is really a subjective area which I'm sure will be extensively customized by admins. ranging from those that like to have lotsa tugs, LDR guys, etc. in the missions to those that don't want them period.  So, I just lumped all these specialized ships into the SPECIAL class type which will keep them from being generated as Allied or Enemy AI in  the EEK missions.  If the admin. wants the specialized ships back in then just assign them the conventional class types.

If you look at the Mission spec. page and compare it with the ship class page, you will see a general trend depicting the lack of usage of the NEW_HEAVYCRUISER class in the secondary ship roles but are instead used for the primary ships, most commonly in the CA to BC class band. Meanwhile the CARRIER class is only used for AI in 2 missions:  Homeworld Assault and Homeworld Defence.  What this means is that all the CV ships that don't pass muster to be a fleet carrier or battle-carrier (ie. CARRIER class type), in EEK classification system, are assigned the NEW_HEAVYCRUISER class type which keeps them out of the secondary ship role and firmly in the primary ship role in the EEK missions,  thereby reducing the amount of carrier type ships generated as Enemy and Allied AI.  This all follows my philosophy of a more pure SFB game that relies more on line ships for the extensively used patrol-class missions on the dyna, rather than than the less available carrier-variant ships.  It also helps make the missions more challenging and more fun to play by keeping the attrition unit Enemy and Allied AI ships like carriers and PFTs under control.  

[FireSoul]

Well.. I'm sorry Karnak, but I won't be reclassifying the CVs since I intend to continue my project in Taldren's style. I really don't know how to put it in any other way.

-- Luc

[Karnak]

No problem.  I never expected you to. It's probably best if you keep your OPPLUS ship list as close to the original Taldren version so everyone has a common shiplist reference to mod. from.  After all, all the customized shiplists that are used for actual dyna played are modded versions of the original stock shiplist.  Just like most of the customized EEK missions are modded from the original version.   Since your project's goal is to enhance the original stock OP shiplist, I think it would be proper to stay close to the original Taldren classification system since you are building on the shiplist by adding ships  and not modding them.

I will  just keep updating  EEK mod of your shiplist with every new release you make and send it out in the succeeding mission pack releases.  In any case, the original OPPLUS shiplists will work well enough with the EEK missions.  

[FireSoul]

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No problem.  I never expected you to. It's probably best if you keep your OPPLUS ship list as close to the original Taldren version so everyone has a common shiplist reference to mod. from.  After all, all the customized shiplists that are used for actual dyna played are modded versions of the original stock shiplist.  Just like most of the customized EEK missions are modded from the original version.   Since your project's goal is to enhance the original stock OP shiplist, I think it would be proper to stay close to the original Taldren classification system since you are building on the shiplist by adding ships  and not modding them.

I will  just keep updating  EEK mod of your shiplist with every new release you make and send it out in the succeeding mission pack releases.  In any case, the original OPPLUS shiplists will work well enough with the EEK missions.  

I will give them a try with a "EAW to OP campaign" environment once I have worked enough on the next rev of the shiplist. I need to test in a D2 envronment anyways. You wouldn't believe the number of ship entries I'm up to now in the list if I told you.
Worst is, most of them are freighters.

[Karnak]

Cool.

I don't mind lotsa new freighters.  They are crunchy, hehe.  

[FireSoul]

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Cool.

I don't mind lotsa new freighters.  They are crunchy, hehe.  

Well!
In that case:   http://forums.taldren.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=222376&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=1  

[Karnak]

That looks much better than the stock version.

[FireSoul]

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That looks much better than the stock version.  

Yeah.. Heh. Thanks.
Those are gonna be for some of the new 'civilian' freighters added. The enpire freighters will still use the old models.

[kziti kat]

Great job with the missions Karnak!!  They are lots of fun to play!!

Also thanks to FireSoul for the shiplist.  I really love the great variety of ships!!

I hope you guys continue your great work.  I appreciate it.  

 

[Karnak]

Glad you liked it. You can now try out all the missions in a Dyna campaign setting to really see how they work.

http://forums.taldren.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=224270&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=365&fpart=1