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LongTooth

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Has any one else herd chirs lee has been edited out
« on: November 12, 2003, 12:59:17 pm »
Of the third lords of the rings film? just herd it on the radio not sure if its true (but they did say he told them its true and he's not going to the opening of the film next month)  

Gambler

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Re: Has any one else herd chirs lee has been edited out
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2003, 01:59:12 pm »
I haven't read The Return of the King, but based on the previous movies, I would find it highly unlikely that his character would be edited out of the film.  He would have to be replaced by another actor in the part and since they filmed the movies all together, the news would have come out long ago.

Therefore I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's most likely just a nasty rumor.

KOTH-Steel Claw

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Re: Has any one else herd chirs lee has been edited out
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2003, 02:03:40 pm »
Not able to verify rumor.

Sethan

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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2003, 02:13:33 pm »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3265475.stm

Rings director cuts wizard scenes

Actor Christopher Lee has said he was mystified to learn that his key scenes have been dropped from the third Lord of the Rings movie.
Lee, 81, who plays the wizard Saruman in the trilogy, said he had expected to appear in seven minutes' worth of climactic scenes.

"Of course I am very shocked, that's all I can say," he told ITV1's This Morning on Wednesday.

He now plans to boycott the film's première in December this year.

"As far as I'm concerned, I'm only telling you this because it has been revealed on the internet, someone has talked and it certainly wasn't me," he told the UK TV show.

"If you want to know why you would have to ask the company New Line or director Peter Jackson and his associates because I still don't really know why.

"I can't say any more because I signed a confidentiality agreement and I honoured my word."

Asked if he would attend the première, he said: "No, what's the point? What's the point of going? None at all."

Christopher Lee fans have started a website petition to restore the scenes.

Lee, who also appears as Count Dooku in the Star Wars films, said appearing in the first two Lord of the Rings movie had been "a dream come true".

 

Sirgod

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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2003, 02:19:52 pm »
How are they going to end the movie without him and Wormtungue (sp) at the Hobbit shire? that was the One of the most memorable parts of the book as far as Samwise and co where concered. It ended there Character Development perfectly.

Stephen

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Re: Has any one else herd chirs lee has been edited out
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2003, 03:39:03 pm »
LOL...omg, these H'wood marketing types will do anything to hype a film these days.

Very smart if you ask me. Get a grassroots campaign going to "restore foootage" of *a main plot point character* to a film that would otherwise be crap without it. What a win/win hype. Kudos to the guy/gal/group that cooked up this scheme.

Best,
Jerry  

Sethan

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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2003, 03:53:00 pm »
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LOL...omg, these H'wood marketing types will do anything to hype a film these days.

Very smart if you ask me. Get a grassroots campaign going to "restore foootage" of *a main plot point character* to a film that would otherwise be crap without it. What a win/win hype. Kudos to the guy/gal/group that cooked up this scheme.




Let's hope you're right.

Barabbas

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Re: Has any one else herd chirs lee has been edited out
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2003, 03:55:11 pm »

It's been done, but was good enough for a second spin....

 LOTR's newest character
 
 Wellington, New Zealand - A recently leaked trailer for The Return of the King has Tolkien fans outraged over the apparent addition of a new character - Jar-Jaromir. The scene depicted in the trailer shows Jar-Jaromir shouting, "Gondora gonna fallsa";
he then trips over a corpse and knocks down a couple of Uruk-hai.

Producers of The Lord of the Rings trilogy confirmed the addition of the half-brother of Boromir and Faramir.

"While The Two Towers is performing better at the box office than The Fellowship of the Ring, we are worried about a demographic that is skewing much older than desired. More mature fans are very good to have, but it's the younger fans who buy the merchandise. That's really what brings in the bucks on a movie like this," said producer Tim Wilcox.

"People complained a lot about Gimli just being there for comic relief," continued Wilcox. "We answer that criticism by directing the humor through Jar-Jaromir in The Return of the King. There's this funny scene where Jar-Jaromir decides it's best to hand the ring over to Sauron, but then he drops it and kicks it into Mount Doom. Hi-larious."

Purists, miffed by the deviations in The Two Towers, were so enraged by Jar-Jaromir as to be rendered speechless. A less pure, calmer fan who was able to form words said, "Tolkien mentioned a lot of different races and creatures, but never a Gungan or even a half-Gungan. I think I'm going to vomit."

One fan tried to rationalize the move. "Maybe the Star Wars universe and Middle-earth intersect. Middle-earth certainly is a long time ago and why couldn't it be in 'a galaxy far, far away?' Nothing said it's our earth." He then broke down and started crying.

Director Peter Jackson explained how the Jar-Jaromir character was added after all the other footage had already been shot. "That's the brilliant thing about digital editing and graphics. We didn't even imagine Jar-Jaromir in the movie until a couple of weeks ago, but now we can just edit him right into the key scenes. I really think it's going to be a hit with the toddlers."

Jackson added, "I just love it when he shouts, 'Yousa steala precious from meesa!'"

 
 

msnevil

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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2003, 04:05:15 pm »
The director\suits proberly thinks his\thier revisionist version is "better' then Tolkans version. And They proberly think they are successfull on thier own merit, and not the true reason. Tolkan was a Genius when he wrote his morality play. And if they were smart.They would leave the book the way it is and was.  

Toasty0

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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2003, 04:08:46 pm »
 

Too funny!  

Taldren_Erin

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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2003, 04:57:08 pm »
I just choked on my tea. =P Too funny.  

Hstaphath_XC

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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2003, 06:09:17 pm »
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How are they going to end the movie without him and Wormtungue (sp) at the Hobbit shire? that was the One of the most memorable parts of the book as far as Samwise and co where concered. It ended there Character Development perfectly.  Stephen  




I hate to break this to you guys, but I read a Pete Jackson interview over a year ago where he stated very forcefully that there will be NO "scourging of the Shire" in Return of the King.  

That's right, no return to the Shire and all that doing so would involve.  Given that, I can see how they could easily cut Saruman from the movie.

In the interview, Pete Jackson went on to complain about how much was already being packed into the final movie and that it would end in Minas Tirith after Sauron falls, Frodo and Sam are recovered from Mount Doom, and Aragorn is then crowned king.

If I remember, I will do a search for the interview tomorrow.  It was posted at theonering.net.  

NCC2012

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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2003, 06:47:20 pm »
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Too funny!  




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Kieran Forester

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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2003, 07:50:02 pm »
In Antwort auf:

   




Gahhhhh! Scary!

NCC2012

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Re: Has any one else herd chirs lee has been edited out
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2003, 08:00:54 pm »
"Is some orcas gonna die?"

Sirgod

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Re: Has any one else herd chirs lee has been edited out
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2003, 08:09:14 pm »
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"Is some orcas gonna die?"  




Where there whales in LOTR?

Hsta- sniff sniff from your post.

Stephen

NCC2012

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Re: Has any one else herd chirs lee has been edited out
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2003, 08:11:34 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

"Is some orcas gonna die?"  




Where there whales in LOTR?

Stephen  




Well, I needed the two sylables in there, and...  

Hstaphath_XC

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Re: Has any one else herd chirs lee has been edited out
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2003, 07:05:19 pm »
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Hsta- sniff sniff from your post. Stephen  




Yeah, I know what you mean...  

You can bet, though, that I'll be roasting Jackson (again!) for it in Monty Python: Return of the King!
 

RazalYllib

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Re: Has any one else herd chirs lee has been edited out
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2003, 07:48:27 pm »
Perhaps, the Key Saruman Scenes will be in TTT-EE.

Lets look at it this way, with NO Scouring of the Shire, all that is left for Saruman is the showdown w/ Gandolf and Co at the base of Orthanc and Wormtongue throws the Palantir at Gandolf.

My prediction is that this scene "may" be in TTT-EE or in the ROTK.

Another prediction is that after the Palantir toss, Saruman and Wormtongue have a melee and Saruman falls and is impelled on the Spikey Wheel thingy that was leaked out many moons ago.  Finis for Wormtongue and Saruman, there is no further use for them in the plot sans the Scouring of the Shire.

I belive the ending will "fast forward", possibley with narration from Bilbo, Sam, Frodo or Galadrial to the Grey Havens and end with the ship going accross the Sea  to Valinor.

 

762

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Re: Has any one else herd chirs lee has been edited out
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2003, 09:15:55 am »
"The Voice of Saruman" - one of the best chapters of ROTK.

I hope it makes it in the DVD.