Topic: cobwebs..... (Read 6482 times)

Thu11s · « **on:** November 10, 2003, 10:00:15 am »

Plenty of em on my copy of Max! So, dusting them away, have been working on updated Lyran's and Gorn's

Lyran CA wip:

Still some detail to add to the mesh, but you get the idea, a more SFB style for the TMP era (as normal

)

Gorn CA wip:

The mesh is done although I'm struggling a bit with the textures, just can't settle on something I'm happy with

but will keep at it!

Also, expects some updates to the Feral Yards within the next week or so. The SkyHawk is ready to go, just gotta build a page for it and upload. The KLN (Klingon SparrowHawk) is nearly done, just the head textures to do. Hopefully some more ISC too, although these may take a little longer.

Getting back into it and getting there

Thu11s

Kurok · « **Reply #1 on:** November 10, 2003, 10:13:36 am »

way cool cant wait to dl them.
Keep up the great work.

Stormbringer · « **Reply #2 on:** November 10, 2003, 10:24:07 am »

I like anyone who tries to put the sfb races into the TMP era. These are nice. Good extrapolation.

Captain Ron · « **Reply #3 on:** November 10, 2003, 10:31:39 am »

Nice to see you back and modeling again.

Kaenyne · « **Reply #4 on:** November 10, 2003, 10:36:52 am »

Thu11s is back! Thu11s is back!

Anything you make is what I download!

It's so great you're back!

Klingon Fanatic · « **Reply #5 on:** November 10, 2003, 11:18:06 am »

Welcome back Thulls! I am so glad to see you making ships again

Qapla!

KF

Grim Reaper · « **Reply #6 on:** November 10, 2003, 11:19:28 am »

wb m8

Smiley · « **Reply #7 on:** November 10, 2003, 11:24:10 am »

Wow! I really like that Gorn design!

Rhaz · « **Reply #8 on:** November 10, 2003, 11:38:35 am »

great news

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #9 on:** November 10, 2003, 12:44:06 pm »

Thu11s, These look great! I've been wanting some TMP Lyrans that look like Lyrans. (In my eyes, anyway

) Nice touches to the added details on the Gorn, as well. I've always really liked your Gorns a lot, to begin with.

StClair · « **Reply #10 on:** November 10, 2003, 02:53:52 pm »

Thu's back, Thu's back!

You just made my day, man. Your Gorns are still my favorites and that new one looks even better.

Marauth · « **Reply #11 on:** November 10, 2003, 03:15:37 pm »

Wooooooooohoo! Thu11s has returned. Though I've spotted you in the 'who's online' page loads of times over teh last few weeks

lol... Good to have you back. I really like the style you established with your TMP Gorns the first time round and am very glad that you've kept the style present in this new mesh which is very kick-arse if I do say so m'self. The Lyran is also very cool, I wasn't too keen on you first set of Lyrans, especially leaving the Tiger as the default Taldren version, I don't like the SFB Tiger either but his is a very decent balance between the two. BTW when you've done that Lyran (and hopefully some others too

) may I have the honour of making LDR versions? I'm getting rather competent at retextures I like to think (done some different Lyran fleets from Desty's TOS Lyrans and romulanised Wicked Zombie's PumwI' DN)

Azel · « **Reply #12 on:** November 10, 2003, 06:05:20 pm »

Quote:

Wow! I really like that Gorn design!

Aye me too!!!!
Truely amazing man

Potemkin · « **Reply #13 on:** November 10, 2003, 10:16:57 pm »

Nice... Please continue. It appears your work might soon be seen in a Modification near you.

Po~

starforce2 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 11, 2003, 02:35:14 am »

hey thulls, any chance you've heard anything from gany about those green retextures? He did the firehawk so well I was hoping to see the rest. Otherwise I'll just wait and see if GAFY can pull it off.

Pataflafla · « **Reply #15 on:** November 11, 2003, 06:09:37 am »

Nice work. Welcome back.

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3dot14 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 11, 2003, 08:54:37 am »

Beautiful Gorn! Lyran's looking good too.

Thu11s · « **Reply #17 on:** November 11, 2003, 12:25:28 pm »

Quick update for you all,

The textures were kinda influenced by the class name (Tiger). Was gonna do all the ships with textures taken from the real cats, leopards - spots etc etc..

Not sure whether to do the green on the inside of the front wings/arms/things like the Taldren tiger, I kinda like it, dunno.

more to come soon...

Thu11s

StClair · « **Reply #18 on:** November 11, 2003, 12:45:44 pm »

One addendum/qualifier to my earlier gushing:

Gorn engineering tends to be very functional, but the little fins on the fore and aft hulls seem to be purely decorative (unlike, say, the flanges on the nacelles). Perhaps you might consider taking those off, while leaving the blisters etc?

Kaenyne · « **Reply #19 on:** November 11, 2003, 12:53:30 pm »

Lookin; sweet there!

Again, it's nice to see you back in action.

Thu11s · « **Reply #21 on:** November 12, 2003, 11:07:52 am »

Um, I think he was talking about the fins on the front and rear saucers

I do agree that they are purely decorative, there just a feature I nicked off my kitbashed Gorn X-Cruiser that I like. It looks kinda bald without em, but that may be cos I'm used to it looking like that

I'll leave em for now but I may take em off as they are getting in the way with the texture style Im working on :/

As for the LDR/WYN stuff, feel free to go for it when they're released. I wasn't planning on doin a major retexture for the LDR, just change em to black and white with the LDR logo in place of the curernt one

but thats me being lazy

Thu11s

Marauth · « **Reply #22 on:** November 12, 2003, 12:55:24 pm »

I was considering giving them a more uniform silvery-white look for the LDR, I like the cat-hide appearance on these ones but I don't think it would suit the LDR, I'm probably just too used to the SFB ones. Though I will keep most of the glowy bits the same as the standard Lyrans any green bits would become blue.

BTW anyone out there know what ships the LDR actually had access to? Cuz like someone else said I doubt they would have had many dreadnoughts or battleships if any, same with x-ships, seeing as how they're only one county on their own their resources must have been very limited.

Thu11s · « **Reply #23 on:** November 12, 2003, 01:13:52 pm »

You can get a copy of the SFB master ship charts from here:

http://www.darkshire.org/~jhkim/sfb/aids/msc.html

Gives year in service info and says which ones are conjectural etc. The largest one the LDR had was the 'Democracy', a battle cruiser, not sure if it's a hellcat or wildcat tho, memories a bit fuzzy on that one. It was possible for the LDR to get a Lion Dreadnought as they're created from an upgraded Tiger, which they had. Apparently cost and a need for all there Tiger's prevented them from doing this (I could be wrong on that tho, may have been something to do with limited shipyard sizes, stoopid grey matter!)

Hope that helps

Thu11s

Marauth · « **Reply #24 on:** November 12, 2003, 02:06:12 pm »

Thanx very much for the information, it seems the Lyrans didn't actually build the Cave Lion either, the LDR seems to have at least some variatns of every Lyran ship except the Dreadnoughts and battleships. Also, though conjectural, the L-BBT - the Twin Tiger class sounds very interesting, I wonder what one would look like...

Oh and given the WYN fleet was (untill the Fish ships) mainly composed of purchased Orion ships with the odd captured or purchased ship from other races I may have a go at retexturing your Privateer and Plunderer Light and Double Raiders, if you don't mind ofcourse.

Reverend · « **Reply #25 on:** November 13, 2003, 12:22:55 am »

Well, please keep going on those Lyran ships... I have developed a big place inside for them..... they look mah-velous!

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #26 on:** November 13, 2003, 02:53:30 am »

Resources weren't a prob for the WYN. The Cluster was a very rich sector of space. The only shipyard they had though was the Orion one. Which was limited on how large a ship that could be constructed. Evidently though, not how large of a ship that they could modify. As they modified many freighters, which are quite big. Evidently no capitol ships deserted though to the Cluster.

Marauth · « **Reply #27 on:** November 13, 2003, 11:19:28 am »

Not exactly true given that the first ship (from the galactic empires) to get through there was a Kzinti battlesruiser - the Usurper in command. But like I said they couldn't really build many ships because of the lack of a proper shipyard so it was mostly light Orion craft that the WYN used. Until the Fish Ships ofcourse.

Thu11s · « **Reply #30 on:** November 13, 2003, 06:44:39 pm »

Managed to find this:

"The one thing the WYN lack is a shipyard capable of actually building ships (rather than just converting them). In 2264, the Orions will construct one within the Cluster on the condition that it remain under Orion control. The arrangement involves the gift of a CR and several light raiders (and a further payment of one light raider per year) to the WYNs, but gives the Orions one shipyard relatively invulnerable to attack"

also:

During the Andromedan Invasion, the Wyn found themselves in the unique position of being one of the only unassailable havens in the Western reaches. Because of their radiation zone, Andromedan ships were unable to penetrate the Cluster.
Turning this situation to their advantage, the Wyn acted as a neutral rescue and salvage service. While crews and vessels belonging to other races would never be held hostage, fees for recovering individuals and ships (which would otherwise be a total loss) were lucrative indeed. In fact, the revenues from this service were enough to finance the construction of a second shipyard within the cluster, futher increasing the Wyn capabilities

I've found this on the web and is mainly mentioned in 'timeline' info. If your really that worried I can dig out my mates old SFB manuals and have a look over the weekend....

Also, with ragards to the web site I listed above with the ship charts, I'm pretty sure the only BB's that weren't conjectural were the Klink and Fed ones. The Gorns and Rom's could never get 2 large warp nacelles working preoperely (hence the Klinks and Feds have 4 smaller ones) and the other races ended up concetrating on X-ships. Thats the main races like, not sure about the Andros, I think they found a half built Andro BB when they attacked a base if I remember the history correctly, but there was speculation is was just a DN. Also, the Tholians were supposed to have BB's etc in their home galaxy, whether thats relevant....

Anyway

Thu11s

Marauth · « **Reply #31 on:** November 13, 2003, 07:21:12 pm »

Actually the Fed BB was conjectural while the Romulan wasn't; the following BBs were actually built:

Klingon B10/11 'Invincible'-class
Romulan King Condor-class
Neo-Tholian Deathdealer-class
Andromedan Devastator-class
WYN Protector-class 'pocket' battleship - actually a trimaran conversion of the Leopard they stole

All taken from the master ship charts you provided. Oh I ignored the Seltorian hive ship as it's not really a battleship, it would have been a lot bigger and according to the list wasn't present in our galaxy, though that kinda raises the question of how the fack did they get here.

Rogue · « **Reply #33 on:** November 13, 2003, 09:35:28 pm »

I think Desty has it right. 'Twas the Klingons that built the only alpha quadrant battleship. The only other in production was the Andro but was abandoned when their home base was attacked in the lesser Magelonic (sp?). The Klingons actually fielded that B10 and started construction on a second but I don't think it was ever finished. All of the others were conjectural and never seriously persued.

Didn't the B10 get destroyed? I don't remember.

Desty_Nova · « **Reply #34 on:** November 13, 2003, 11:10:40 pm »

If I remember correctly, four B10s were built and operated. Only two were actually completely finished.

IKV Inviolable- This was the only B10 ever to see service in the General War. It was rushed out of slipways not completely finished to counter one of the final Alliance drives on Klinshai. Due to its incomplete state, it was not as powerful as it should have been, and was so badly damaged construction was never resumed.

IKV Invulnerable- The boom section of this B10 was completed and sent into battle on its own against an Andromedan raid on Klinshai. It repulsed the Andromedans but was detroyed.

IKV Insatiable, IKV Invincible- Both of these B10s were completed after the general war and survived the Andromedan Invasion. They served the Empire well.

Marauth · « **Reply #35 on:** November 17, 2003, 01:17:42 pm »

Das Bump.

Zeez ships are too gud to vallow in ze depths of page 2 lol sorry...

Marauth · « **Reply #36 on:** November 22, 2003, 02:05:00 pm »

Do I really need to say bump? Oh sh..... I said it....

Anything to report Thu11s?

Desty_Nova · « **Reply #37 on:** November 22, 2003, 02:42:57 pm »

Yeah dude, you need to finish these so we can use them for the Galaxies at War mod!

Thu11s · « **Reply #38 on:** November 22, 2003, 04:41:39 pm »

k, the Klingon SparrowHawk is ready to go, build a page and she's there

Update on the Lyran CA:

Also, started on the DN

pretty easy follow on from the CA. WIll do the CL next then the BC's and NCA etc

Thu11s

Azel · « **Reply #39 on:** November 22, 2003, 04:49:38 pm »

Awesome!!!!

But I feel that the Klingons would not know what to do with such a beautifull Bird

Desty_Nova · « **Reply #40 on:** November 22, 2003, 05:18:27 pm »

!!!!

Only one emoticon is appropriate:

Klingon Fanatic · « **Reply #41 on:** November 22, 2003, 05:33:33 pm »

Awesome!

And I do believe us Klinks could put the sparrowhawk to good use....

As for the Lyrans; I like the new designs. Now does this mean you will redo the LDR? I was thinking if the LDR doesn't have as much resources as the Lyran Counties than maybe the designs you have for them should remain the same?

At any rate, thanks for sharing your work with us.

Qapla!

KF

Kaenyne · « **Reply #43 on:** November 24, 2003, 08:37:39 am »

Bump for news goodies!

Marauth · « **Reply #44 on:** December 02, 2003, 09:19:21 pm »

Why the F is this on the forth page? Who's in charge of bumping posts around here?

j/k LOL

Soz - BUMP for any new info from Thu11s

Kaenyne · « **Reply #45 on:** December 03, 2003, 08:31:42 am »

I was looking for this thread yesterday, but couldn't remember the subject line...

thanks for putting her back up to page one, Lestat!

Marauth · « **Reply #46 on:** December 14, 2003, 04:16:46 pm »

Right everyone's probably forgotten about this thread and I was hoping Thu11s would start a new one with the d/l soon or something but it seems this is the only way

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMP

Kaenyne · « **Reply #47 on:** December 15, 2003, 08:45:57 am »

Oh no, I haven't forgotten about this thread. I'm happy others are taking notice! I love Thu11s' stuff. What's so cool is that I can't decide which ships I like best. I'm also glad he has opened up his Klingon section. I snatched that beauty up as soon as I got home (the day she debuted).

Thu11s alos gave me a new appreciation for the Hydrans. His interpretations are the best I have ever seen for this race. I'd love to see more captial ship designs for 'em!

Marauth · « **Reply #48 on:** December 15, 2003, 09:33:25 am »

Agreed on the Hydrans, if/when Thu11s comes back and finishes the Lyrans, and Gorn, and Romulans, and ISC that he's been doing (someone's a workaholic

) I'd be interested to see what his new L337 5K1LL5 could bring to the TMP Hydrans.

Thu11s · « **Reply #49 on:** December 15, 2003, 10:27:15 am »

All quiet on the Thu11s front.........

Me and my machine are currently round my miss's grans flat, house sitting 'til Xmas, so no net connection (which sucks). But work does indeed progress, Actually did a check of all my meshes in progress the other night!

Lyran CA almost there, still naffing about with a bridge section for it though, all but the shuttle bays are textured. The mesh for the DN and FF are also done with DW's to follow the FF soon. Also have skecthes for the DD done and CW's wouldn't be too long after that. Got an idea for a modified CA mauler mesh aswell, but we'll see if I can pull it off....

The ISC FF & DD meshes are done, but need painting, the CVA is about half done texturing, mesh complete. Got ideas for a couple of freighters, but they're not even on paper yet. Kinda got a BB in the works, although it just ends up looking like a really fat DN

The Rommie SkyHawk will be up when I get back home, and I have a basic mesh for the SeaHawk. REALLY struggling with the King Condor BB, trying to get something between my DN and a Warbird is kinda hard without it looking odd.... Also got ideas on variants such as carriers etc.

Gorns are unfortunately on a back burner, never could get happy on a texture style, wanted something similar to the Stock textures in colours and pattern but more reptilian come plainer like TOS models come more functional looking. Did my nut in so concentrated on the Lyrans.... call it an artistic block!!

Hydrans.... Got ideas, some sketches but nothing done in Max as of yet. They're pretty much going to be like the Gorn I'm doing, better looking/more detailed versions of what I've done already as they pretty much fulfill what I was trying to do.

Also, got a few ideas for some more fish/shark like Orions, but they keep getting further down the list

Lots of stuff in progress, just gotta get my finger out and finish them, keep getting distracted by new stuff

Also gotta keep the miss' happy......

Will be back home at the weekend so should get some stuff up then, hopefully

Still working, just work internet sucks at the mo

Thu11s

Kaenyne · « **Reply #50 on:** December 15, 2003, 10:40:51 am »

Well, sorry to hear about your Internet woes, but at least it's only temporary.

But I'm glad to hear you're plugging away at lots 'o stuff!

I'll be waiting with great anticipation for your new creations.

Thanks for the update!

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #51 on:** December 15, 2003, 10:42:50 am »

Thu11s,
Well, that's the most exciting bit of "quiet" news I've seen. I'm looking forward to seeing all of these. I'm especially waiting to see the Lyrans. So, I'm happy to see that they appear to be on top of the list. Thanks!!!

Marauth · « **Reply #52 on:** December 15, 2003, 11:14:46 am »

Major W00tage of a high order going on here. This is great news, your ships are pretty much in the majority in my TMP shiplist right now, it really buged me that no one bothered with anything beyond feds, klinks and maybe if you're lucky the odd rommie until you came along.

About the Gorn, I rather liked the texture style on the old ones myself, maybe make them a bit more industrial looking to match up with the SFB Gorn but at least keep the sand coloured hulls - it gets kinda repetitive when all the ships are grey.

Marauth · « **Reply #53 on:** December 19, 2003, 01:04:16 pm »

One last BUMP (hopefully) before the weekend...

Right - off down the pub

Atrahasis · « **Reply #54 on:** December 19, 2003, 01:16:12 pm »

VERY creative work and texturing.....I am thoroughly impressed.

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