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sandman69247

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Official Lost Era thread
« on: November 08, 2003, 10:36:09 am »
OK, since I've had a pretty good response from people about doing the Lost Era, I figured I'd make thread that would be easier for y'all to find.

So far, the races that I'm going to be doing/getting done are:
Feds
Klinks
Rommies
Cardassians
Tholians
What are your suggestions for other races? Gorn, Mirak, Lyran, Hydran? Does anyone know who the Kinshaya are? In the series of novels, part3 involves the Klinks and Cardys. Mentioned are the Kinshaya, who are supposed to be enemies of the Klinks.

The ships that are completed, or almost so, are:
FED:
Ambassador
Centaur (re-texturing my USS GORGON)
Cheyenne

KLINK:
Mackies K'Tirrpa modified BoP

CARDYS:
Azels Akril Class cruiser (being textured by Fury_of_a_seraph)

Still needed (of the list I made up...suggestions on more appreciated):
Fed:
Constellation
Excelsior
Ent.B re-fit
Freedom
Niagara
Oberth
Saber
Steamrunner
It has been suggested to add the Miranda line...but those were out of commision by then so, maybe not...what do y'all think.

Klink:
B'Rel
K'Vort
D-7 re-fit (before K'Tinga was made to increase the life of the aging fleet)
K'Tinga

Romulan:
BoP
Melak
D'Deridex (late in the Lost Era)

Cardassians:
??? Need more ideas for these guys.

Tholians:
Standard Tholian Ships, plus, IIRC, they had a new cruiser in book 1 of the series.

Please let me know any suggestions for this. If you have a model or something to contribute, you can send it here: jason@sandman3d.com

If you like the look of the logo I made (I feel like a copycat, but I was making this up before I saw the great GaW one), you can add to you sig line  http://www.sandman3d.com/lostera/images/losterapg.jpg

Hope y'all want this to happen. I'll understand if it gets a little lost in the shuffle, as I know a lot of people are excited about GaW (I am too  ), but I'll keep going on it and still be here when the hoopla dies down.  
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Pataflafla

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2003, 11:02:52 am »
I'm watching this with great interest. Sorry I can't volunteer at the moment. Sorta tied up
with this Mirak thing and RL. Still got bands to play in, so I'm out on the road 3 or 4 nights a week. Not much extra time.

I still think this era is what Paramount should have done the post Voyager series on. The whole "from Praxis to Yesterday's
Enterpise" time period. That might actually be a good motto for your mod come to think of it.
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Sirgod

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2003, 11:17:11 am »
Quote:

I'm watching this with great interest. Sorry I can't volunteer at the moment. Sorta tied up
with this Mirak thing and RL. Still got bands to play in, so I'm out on the road 3 or 4 nights a week. Not much extra time.

I still think this era is what Paramount should have done the post Voyager series on. The whole "from Praxis to Yesterday's
Enterpise" time period. That might actually be a good motto for your mod come to think of it.
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I agree, heck even the SULU series would have been much better.

 
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2003, 11:20:38 am »
NP, Pata...ya gots to eat, right? I think this will take awhile, as I, for one, am new to the whole mod making thing and need to figure it out. Right now I'm just working on getting ships...then scripts and so on. Plus, I figure that for awhile the GaW mod will be taking all the attention...look at the size of that thread!!

On another note...Unless someone else comes up with one I will be trying my hand at making the Melak. I noticed that it appears identical to the D'Deridex with a few exceptions, namely the "tail" is gone on the Melak. Any thoughts? If I use the schematics for the D'Deridex and modify accordingly, will it look right? Thanx for any help.  
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Klingon Fanatic

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2003, 11:28:04 am »
Sandman,

I retextured a KDX kitbash by SpaceCadetGlowUK that just might fit the role of the Klingon ship you mentioned in the other thread you wrote.

In regards to the Melak you can download a set of Melak pics in a .rar file  here:

http://dynamic3.gamespy.com/~bridgecommander/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=12478

Qapla!

KF
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2003, 11:36:11 am »
Cool!!  

I think I have those Melak pics, but they are kinda dark, being screencaps and all. Am I on the right track as far as the basic look and feel is? To me, the Melak is an older, smaller cousin of the D'Deridex; like I said, it looks alot like it. There's also a schematic at Starship Schematics for the C-5 cruiser that looks similar, just without the bottom wings. I'll post a pic in a few.  
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2003, 11:42:20 am »
Here's that schematic of the C-5. Is this more along the lines needed?
 
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2003, 02:11:31 pm »
Found this Cardy at Starship Schematics. What do you think? Make a good Lost Era Light Cruiser?
 
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Pataflafla

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2003, 02:32:02 pm »
Not real familiar with the Melak. What episode did that appear in?
The C-5 looks really cool. So does the Cardy. I always do a double take when I see a Cardy ship like that.
The bow doesn't really jump out as being the "front" of the ship. Know what I mean? At first glance I thought
it was some odd Klink attack cruiser.........until I realized that was the tail not the bridge. lol

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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2003, 02:44:19 pm »
The Melak isn't cannon IIRC. I believe it is from the opening movie from an ST game? Anyway, from what I can make out from the pics I have is that it appears to be a smaller, slightly different version of the D'Deridex. Seems like a perfect Lost Era Rom cruiser to me.  
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Klingon Fanatic

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2003, 03:00:11 pm »
Quote:

Not real familiar with the Melak. What episode did that appear in?
The C-5 looks really cool. So does the Cardy. I always do a double take when I see a Cardy ship like that.
The bow doesn't really jump out as being the "front" of the ship. Know what I mean? At first glance I thought
it was some odd Klink attack cruiser.........until I realized that was the tail not the bridge. lol

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A complete history of the Melak amy be found here:

http://dynamic3.gamespy.com/~bridgecommander/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=12478

Sandman, that C-5 is about as close to the Melak as the Reliant is to the Excelsior.

Qapla!

KF
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2003, 03:15:37 pm »
Yo, no need to get huffy. Here's a pic from your post at bcfiles...look damn similar to me.

Like I said, the C-5 is missing the lower wings, but the shape for the rear is pretty close...just doesn't have the w shape. Now, if someone could get screencaps of the side and top/bottom, that would help, but going from what you have in the .rar file it's close. A LOT closer than the Reliant and Excelsior. More like the Reliant and Constitution.  
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Rat_Boy

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2003, 03:33:38 pm »
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This hyar is whut ah thunk th' ship ah menshuned in t'other thread looked like. Jest doesn't try t'make it, it's cursed, cuss it all t' tarnation.
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Klingon Fanatic

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2003, 03:37:56 pm »
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Yo, no need to get huffy. Here's a pic from your post at bcfiles...look damn similar to me.

Like I said, the C-5 is missing the lower wings, but the shape for the rear is pretty close...just doesn't have the w shape. Now, if someone could get screencaps of the side and top/bottom, that would help, but going from what you have in the .rar file it's close. A LOT closer than the Reliant and Excelsior. More like the Reliant and Constitution.  



I should have put a " "  in there.  

This is probably the only ship I get really passionate about. Anybody else remember the first High poly Connies or Excelsiors? People came out of the woodwork to *COUGH*  'help' model makers get them dead on.  
"Oh look, the Excelsior's the wrong color blue or its pennants should be placed at 'X' vs 'Y' Or even the connie should be this shade of eggshell/pink/steel gray/white/Amber." Lots of  enthusiasm in the early days around here, lol.

Please don't take my enthusiasm for the Melak too seriously, I don't ; that's why I play Feds/Klingons in SFC... However, I have a WORD ddocument that has a small Pink top down schematic I can send your way.

BTW: After I pressed 'submit reply' I realized that my analogy should have been what you wrote: Miranda to Connie.

Well done Sandman

Qapla!

KF
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2003, 05:06:51 pm »
Cool, please send it. Went back thru the pics in the .rar, and I can get a good idea of side and perspective views, but the top would be great! What I see as a stumbling block is the curve on the wings...down around to the rear. This one will probably be  WIP for a long time...curse or no curse, I'm used to doing Feds, and this is more complicated. I vow I shal make this...good or bad, curse or no.  
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2003, 01:01:46 am »
Shameless bump  
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Kreeargh

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2003, 01:58:49 am »
Your welcome to use any of my models  though they are not cannon accurate  
Some of the TNG will get new versions but that might not be for a while .  
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2003, 10:44:37 am »
Thanx! Canon accurate? What's that? Besides, there are only a few trully canon ships from that time period, so, shouldn't be a big deal.  
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2003, 12:24:51 am »
OK, started texturing the BoP (see its thread), and tinkered a little on making the Melak...have some ideas, but won't post a pic yet...looks bad at the moment. That sumb*tch is tough.

Working on getting a webpage up for this...still have room on my site, and I can have as many sub-domains as I want and have room for.  
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2003, 08:54:14 am »
Another shameless bump  
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Kaenyne

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2003, 09:02:08 am »
Has anyone mentioned th eConstellation Class? If memory serves, the first was commissioned circa 2300.
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2003, 09:06:29 am »
That's one of the ones on the list...after all, Picard was Captain of the Stargazer for 22 years, so he was definitely there in that time period. I'm stilltrying to figure out how to mesh the damn TMP nacelles.

BTW, if anyone wants to help, feel free.  
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2003, 01:13:39 am »
OK, just a thought on what kinds of missions to have in this. I'm thinking a definite one is the Narendra lll incident. Khitomer comes to mind, as well as the Tomed incident. Any other good ones we should be thinking of? How about some of the Sulu missions?

 
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2003, 09:53:51 pm »
Bump...evrybody lose interest?  
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Azel

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2003, 11:08:23 pm »
Not me
 
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Azel

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2003, 11:11:52 pm »
BTW...I was thinking of making a red romulan BoP
what do you think???
am I   ???  
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Kaenyne

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2003, 08:34:59 am »
Yeah, that would be new and different!

When you say BoP, do you mean the kind from TOS?
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2003, 10:07:24 am »
One of your designs would work...the one I'm working on now is green though it was gray on-screen due to being a line ship. The red could signify a new fleet...or it could be like a police version for system defenses. Let's see your idea...if nothing else it could be an alternate universe Rom.  
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Azel

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2003, 11:45:20 am »
Ok i just finished the mesh for my Red BoP...she is a long ranged prototype
Pics soon  
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Kaenyne

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2003, 12:02:24 pm »
Can't wait to see 'em!
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Azel

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2003, 04:29:49 pm »
Posted  
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2003, 08:23:45 pm »
TOTALLY GNARLY, DUDE!!!!  
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2003, 11:10:09 am »
OK, we have ready, or in the works, the following models...

Fed:
Ambassador (completed, waiting for webpage)
Centaur (completed, waiting for webpage)
Cheyenne (completed, waiting for webpage)

Rom:
Re-fit TOS BoP (under construction)
Ra'Taar warbird (under construction)
War Eagle (under construction)

Cardy:
Akril Class Cruiser (under construction)

Tholians:
Varios ships (under constuction)

Pretty good start, if I do say so myself. I will be working on the webpage this weekend, so hopefully it will be done by Monday...unless football gets in the way of course.  
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Azel

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2003, 01:10:23 pm »
Hey Don't for get My Gorn!!!!  
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jimkirk

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2003, 04:28:09 pm »
Maybe you can find some information in the book previously released. The book has the same title... "The lost era". Author must have placed some information about ships, politycs etc.  
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2003, 09:29:53 am »
I did forget your Gorn...by bad. (Goes to stand in corner)

I have read the books (4 of 6), but not much of a discription on the ships. But then, I was really reading to get info, I was reading to have fun. I could go back through them and see if I can get an idea.

Should we keep the major races in their respective slots, i.e. Hydran=Hydran, Gorn=Gorn etc.; if so, who should we put where for other "new" aliens? There are a lot of pirate cartels to choose from, so we can use those. Now to determine who goes where. Any ideas?  
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2003, 11:05:36 pm »
bump?  
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #37 on: November 20, 2003, 11:37:07 am »
OK, have the webpage up...still working on it, but it's there, so you can bookmark. I'll be adding some things in the next couple of days, mainly a model page with the ships we're including in the mod.
 Lost Era

Azel has completed his Romulan fleet and his experimental long range strike cruiser; they'll be available from the site soon, or just head to his thread releasing them to d/l. They do not include brk, hp/dp...and they're scaled kinda big. When we get the mod done, it will all be corrected...still fiddling with shipedit, trying to figure it out.

The Ent-C (Ambassador class) and Cherokee (Cheyenne class) will be up also in a few days, as well as the Gorgon (Centaur class), just need to work out a couple of kinks in the textures. The BoP I'm working on should be ready in a few days...basically is, but trying to figure out what to put on the bottom...needs something, too plain.

Still waiting for Fury of a Seraph (aka Steelviper33) to finish texturing Azels Cardassian Akril class cruiser.

Azel, I can't find your Gorn anywhere...help!!  
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2003, 09:02:38 am »
As Azel would say...DAS BOOMP!!  
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #39 on: November 22, 2003, 10:51:43 pm »
Started working on a Cardy light cruiser, based off of the Lukat light cruiser at Starship Schematics. Hopefully I should have this done by Thanksgiving; I'll post pics later...having trouble getting online with my puter...on wifes right now.

My Rom BoP is mostly finished...still trying to figure out what to do on the bottom.

After this, I'll be doing a few bashes of the design to make some more classes...the Cardy's are mine Azel!!

After these, I'll be starting on another of my favs...the Excelsior/Ent-B...can't wait!!!  
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Azel

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #40 on: November 23, 2003, 12:00:37 am »
SWEETNESS BOSS!!!
I await your Cardassian  
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #41 on: November 25, 2003, 12:34:22 pm »
Just a quick note...I'll be updating the site, adding the rest of Azels Roms, then adding some of the models from the community that have been graciously donated...Thank You!!!

What else should be done? Regarding races that is...right now we have: Feds, Roms, Klinks, Cardys, Gorn; Tholians are available also...just need to re-find them, lol. So, who else should play a role in the Lost Era?  
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Azel

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #42 on: November 25, 2003, 06:38:20 pm »
I would put up Wips at the site too
To show whats in store  
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #43 on: November 25, 2003, 08:50:59 pm »
Good idea!! Now to find some more time........  
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2003, 01:50:07 pm »
Bump to bring her back to the front.  
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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #45 on: December 05, 2003, 05:18:57 am »
sandman if you still need some Fed designs here is an Ambassador class era design from me that i have made some time ago and that you could easily bash out of your Ambassador

 

and if you want you could have my Loki class destroyer and the Michael Adam class scout for your mod, both are late Excelsior era designs  
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2003, 01:19:23 pm »
Thanx!!

That's a cool design, looks like a scout built specifically to work alongside an Ambassador.

Are these up at your site? If not, would it be possible to send 'em to me? The e-mail addy below has a 8mb attachment size, so I should be able to get 'em.

Thanx again!!  
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Azel

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #47 on: December 07, 2003, 01:45:35 pm »
Should I do more Roms???  
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Azel

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2003, 06:18:20 pm »
Bump for news  
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #49 on: January 11, 2004, 04:11:05 pm »
OK, no, the Lost Era is NOT dead!! Sorry it's been so long for an update. Go check out the gallery section on the site as there are some new walls, plus the USS STARGAZER has been added to the Fed d/l page.  
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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #50 on: January 11, 2004, 04:17:37 pm »
Off to a great start Sandman!

How soon before the FASA Klingon One Wing is ready?

Kt'Hyla's Romulans would fit nicely in your mod once they are converted from LWO to MOD format.

Qapla!

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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #51 on: January 11, 2004, 11:23:10 pm »
Thanx KF!!

Have to finish Azels Independence 1st, but that sounds like a good next model. I can actually see a limited production run of something like that in the Lost Era, what with the Klingons trying to maintain the Empire after Praxis. Give it a few weeks, and she should be at least started.  
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sandman69247

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2004, 01:20:30 pm »
Just a quick note...will be doing a full site update with links and pics of all the ships made/collected so far. This update should be online in about a week, week and a half. I'll be working on it after I finish Azels USS Independence.  
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Azel

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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #53 on: January 19, 2004, 06:30:26 pm »
Awesome!!!!
   
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« Reply #54 on: March 01, 2004, 06:53:55 am »
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sandman if you still need some Fed designs here is an Ambassador class era design from me that i have made some time ago and that you could easily bash out of your Ambassador

 

and if you want you could have my Loki class destroyer and the Michael Adam class scout for your mod, both are late Excelsior era designs  



Bumping for news and to ask Mr Terradyhne sir,where can I get this awesome ship of yours?
-MP
 ModelsPlease@aol.com  
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Re: Official Lost Era thread
« Reply #55 on: March 01, 2004, 11:06:03 pm »
Ok did ay of you hear abault "project sign", it was metioed in the novels by the grate WS (William Shatner) Specter , Dark Victory,and Preserver if so then you must remember the discriptions of the ships imploide by this faction
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