Topic: Anyone have a Radeon 9600 PRO?

[korus]

  Right now SFC 3 and ST: EF 2 are crashing on my sytems after 4 mins of gameplay...  Here are my specs:

ASUS P4800 Deluxe
2.60ghz Celeron
512 MB DDR Ram
Radeon 9600 PRO
25GB Quatum Fireball HD
Windows 98SE
Audigy 2 sound card
500 PSU

I'm currently using the latest Direct X but my drivers are Cataylyst 3.7... 3.8 causes my games to crash faster than 4 mins...  I won't be getting my new OS and HD until X-mas....  I want to have a stable system to play SFC III  again and Elite Forces II dagnab it... Anyone have any ideas? I'm tired of reformatting and trying different cat drivers...

Korus  

[Javora]

1.  Are you over clocking your video card or CPU?
2.  What is the error (if any) when the system crashes?  Need an exact quote here.
3.  What Bios version do you have?
4.  Is your video card on it's own IRQ?
5.  What Bios version do you have running your motherboard?

If you are not using at least Bios version 1010 I would suggest flashing your Bios to either 1010 or 1011.  I guessing that you just installed the 9600 Pro, which is why you are asking if anyone else has it installed on his or her system.  I'm not totally sold on the idea that it is your video card.  Especially since you have an Audigy 2 sound card, there might be a conflict between the sound card and another component.  If you do not find the answer you are looking for try posting your questions here.  Hope this helps.
 

[Sirgod]

Correct me if I'm wrong, But I believe some one mentioned using the Catalyst 3.2 or even the 2.2 drivers to get the game working.

For SFC3, Do you have the Beta Patch? I'd try that first, as your system is more then enough to run SFC3, Not sure about EF2 though, as I don't have that game yet.

You can find a link to the patch in the announcement section of the forums, Or the Various fan sites, such as SFC3.net , SFC universe, ToastO's site, Or of course XenoCorp. also capt. Castrin has a site also.

Too many to recall at one time actually.

Stephen

[Javora]

Quote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, But I believe some one mentioned using the Catalyst 3.2 or even the 2.2 drivers to get the game working.

Stephen

Are you serious??!?  I just can't believe that someone would have to go back to 3.2 Catalyst just to get SFC III working.  I'm using 3.7 Catalyst drivers on my ATI 7500 right now with no problems.  So if that were the case then it would have to be something with the 9600 Pro.  I'm not doubting you heard that Sirgod, I just find it hard to believe that the board it self is the problem.
 

[Javora]

I just remembered something, Korus.  Did you install the Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility?  If you have not, you can download the driver directly from Intel.  Remember you should install this utility right after you install the operating system and before you install any drivers on your system.  Hope this helps.

Edit:  BTW Korus, is that the Asus P4800 Deluxe, P4C800 Deluxe, or the P4C800-E Deluxe.  It makes a difference when looking for the latest Bios and IIRC the Intel drivers.

[Sirgod]

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Correct me if I'm wrong, But I believe some one mentioned using the Catalyst 3.2 or even the 2.2 drivers to get the game working.

Stephen

Are you serious??!?  I just can't believe that someone would have to go back to 3.2 Catalyst just to get SFC III working.  I'm using 3.7 Catalyst drivers on my ATI 7500 right now with no problems.  So if that were the case then it would have to be something with the 9600 Pro.  I'm not doubting you heard that Sirgod, I just find it hard to believe that the board it self is the problem.
   

 I very well could be wrong, I just think I recalled someone mentioning It in a thread. Personally I like the radeon series also, and It very well could have been a different game altogether also. I've been so busy with the move, unpacking Painting, fixing, My minds not quite right.  

Stephen

[korus]

Quote:
1.  Are you over clocking your video card or CPU?
2.  What is the error (if any) when the system crashes?  Need an exact quote here.
3.  What Bios version do you have?
4.  Is your video card on it's own IRQ?
5.  What Bios version do you have running your motherboard?

If you are not using at least Bios version 1010 I would suggest flashing your Bios to either 1010 or 1011.  I guessing that you just installed the 9600 Pro, which is why you are asking if anyone else has it installed on his or her system.  I'm not totally sold on the idea that it is your video card.  Especially since you have an Audigy 2 sound card, there might be a conflict between the sound card and another component.  If you do not find the answer you are looking for try posting your questions here.  Hope this helps.
   

  1.  No overclocking whatso ever....
2.  No error after exactly 5 mins of gameplay the game freezes totally and the audio loops like a broken record.
3.  0.2063
4.  I'd have to check... Not sure.
5. 1010

Hope this helps...

Korus  

[korus]

Quote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, But I believe some one mentioned using the Catalyst 3.2 or even the 2.2 drivers to get the game working.

For SFC3, Do you have the Beta Patch? I'd try that first, as your system is more then enough to run SFC3, Not sure about EF2 though, as I don't have that game yet.

You can find a link to the patch in the announcement section of the forums, Or the Various fan sites, such as SFC3.net , SFC universe, ToastO's site, Or of course XenoCorp. also capt. Castrin has a site also.

Too many to recall at one time actually.

Stephen  

  Currently I was using just the plain vanilla SFC 3 to play on  what's left of the Activsion Servers... I don't have the Beta installed as of yet... I'm waiting for the final one if it ever appears hehe...   Again Thanks for  the help here...

Korus    

[korus]

Quote:
I just remembered something, Korus.  Did you install the Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility?  If you have not, you can download the driver directly from Intel.  Remember you should install this utility right after you install the operating system and before you install any drivers on your system.  Hope this helps.

Edit:  BTW Korus, is that the Asus P4800 Deluxe, P4C800 Deluxe, or the P4C800-E Deluxe.  It makes a difference when looking for the latest Bios and IIRC the Intel drivers.
 

  Actually I did check and I believe I have the current .inf files.  And that was the first thing I did when I installed Windows.... I addeded the inf drivers from the motherboard CD. Then I rebooted as normal.  MY board is the P4P800 Deluxe.  No revision D, C, etc.... I guess I could flash the bios again to see if there's a new bios out...  Again Thanks for the response!  
EDIT:  Here's the current inf driver in my system:
Intel(R) Chipset Software Installation Utility 5.00.1012.
Is that the latest driver?
Korus  

[Javora]

Quote:

1.  No overclocking whatso ever....
2.  No error after exactly 5 mins of gameplay the game freezes totally and the audio loops like a broken record.
3.  0.2063
4.  I'd have to check... Not sure.
5. 1010

Hope this helps...

Korus

Now that's odd...

Are there any other games or programs that is freezing like this?  I would still check the to see if the video card is on it's own IRQ or not.  Did you install the latest Intel chipset drivers before loading any other drivers?  I ask this again because the Intel driver that came with the Asus motherboard has known issues.  Also exactly what Asus motherboard do you have, as it can make a difference?
 

[Javora]

Quote:

Actually I did check and I believe I have the current .inf files.  And that was the first thing I did when I installed Windows.... I addeded the inf drivers from the motherboard CD. Then I rebooted as normal.  MY board is the P4P800 Deluxe.  No revision D, C, etc.... I guess I could flash the bios again to see if there's a new bios out...  Again Thanks for the response!  
EDIT:  Here's the current inf driver in my system:
Intel(R) Chipset Software Installation Utility 5.00.1012.
Is that the latest driver?
Korus

I wouldn't bother flashing your Bios, and version 1011 introduces some bugs that version 1010 doesn't have.  The latest Intel drivers according to the Intel  web page is version 5.0.2.1003 created on 8/27/2003.  The drivers you have listed IIRC are beta drivers sent and should say so in the Asus CD.  Hope this helps.
 

[Javora]

Quote:

I very well could be wrong, I just think I recalled someone mentioning It in a thread. Personally I like the radeon series also, and It very well could have been a different game altogether also. I've been so busy with the move, unpacking Painting, fixing, My minds not quite right.  

Stephen

No worries Sirgod, I know you have a lot going on.  The important thing is you're trying to help.    The Asus motherboards of late has been having some serious issues lately.    That is why I am looking at this problem as a motherboard issue.  Asus motherboards have given a lot of people and myself some serious headaches.  I own a P4C800-E Deluxe so unfortunately I?m speaking from experience.  
 

[Sirgod]

Quote:

Quote:

I very well could be wrong, I just think I recalled someone mentioning It in a thread. Personally I like the radeon series also, and It very well could have been a different game altogether also. I've been so busy with the move, unpacking Painting, fixing, My minds not quite right.  

Stephen

No worries Sirgod, I know you have a lot going on.  The important thing is you're trying to help.    The Asus motherboards of late has been having some serious issues lately.    That is why I am looking at this problem as a motherboard issue.  Asus motherboards have given a lot of people and myself some serious headaches.  I own a P4C800-E Deluxe so unfortunately I?m speaking from experience.  
   

Hey no Problem, I just recently switched back to MSI myself, so I know what yor going through. The differance between asus And MSI are almost negligable, as far as Problems are concerned.

Stephen

[Toasty0]

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Correct me if I'm wrong, But I believe some one mentioned using the Catalyst 3.2 or even the 2.2 drivers to get the game working.

For SFC3, Do you have the Beta Patch? I'd try that first, as your system is more then enough to run SFC3, Not sure about EF2 though, as I don't have that game yet.

You can find a link to the patch in the announcement section of the forums, Or the Various fan sites, such as SFC3.net , SFC universe, ToastO's site, Or of course XenoCorp. also capt. Castrin has a site also.

Too many to recall at one time actually.

Stephen  

  Currently I was using just the plain vanilla SFC 3 to play on  what's left of the Activsion Servers... I don't have the Beta installed as of yet... I'm waiting for the final one if it ever appears hehe...   Again Thanks for  the help here...

Korus      

You're being able to play at all with DX9 is a miracle.  

[Javora]

Quote:

You're being able to play at all with DX9 is a miracle.

Actually ToastyO that is a good point, but that doesn't explain Elite Force II doing the same thing.  Unless Elite Force II also requires a DirectX 9 patch.  Korus install the SFC III DirectX 9 patch if you haven't already and see what happens.  If that fixes the issue with SFC III then it could really help narrow things down a bit.  Good Catch ToastyO.  
 

[korus]

  Well folks it  keeps getting better and better.... I did the inf update and it crashed... Also tried updating the BIOS and got this wonderful little error:

ASUS BIOSINFO.DLL
Cannot detect ASUS BIOS
OK.
On OK. Installation aborted.

So now it appears the Bios can't detect the motherboard now SIGH.   Going to take a break and look at a new motherboard I can't afford now.... Any one knows a good MB for a Celeron 2.60Ghz chip and a Zalman flower CPU cooler I can buy?

Korus  

[Toasty0]

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You're being able to play at all with DX9 is a miracle.

Actually ToastyO that is a good point, but that doesn't explain Elite Force II doing the same thing.  Unless Elite Force II also requires a DirectX 9 patch.  Korus install the SFC III DirectX 9 patch if you haven't already and see what happens.  If that fixes the issue with SFC III then it could really help narrow things down a bit.  Good Catch ToastyO.  
   

Oh my, I must be confused. I thought the game was a couple weeks away. http://www.st-ef2.com/home.html

Never the less, SFC was released shortly before (like days before) the release of DX9 thus the reason for the patch.

If he has the EFII-demo, welp, a demo can be as buggy as any game and we could be seeing the result of two seperate issues. We won't know uintil we get at least one of these games working.

Best,
Jerry  

[feargusf]

Wow! Toasty, I don't know what is up with that site, but EFII was released a few months ago. Yet another sign of Activision's wonderful support for Trek games.  

[Pestalence]

Quote:
  Right now SFC 3 and ST: EF 2 are crashing on my sytems after 4 mins of gameplay...  Here are my specs:

ASUS P4800 Deluxe
2.60ghz Celeron
512 MB DDR Ram
Radeon 9600 PRO
25GB Quatum Fireball HD
Windows 98SE
Audigy 2 sound card
500 PSU

I'm currently using the latest Direct X but my drivers are Cataylyst 3.7... 3.8 causes my games to crash faster than 4 mins...  I won't be getting my new OS and HD until X-mas....  I want to have a stable system to play SFC III  again and Elite Forces II dagnab it... Anyone have any ideas? I'm tired of reformatting and trying different cat drivers...

Korus    

Try this... simple trouble shooting...

First, make sure you are running DirectX 9.0b

Direct DL link here : http://download.microsoft.com/download/7/3/c/73cc71c0-13d9-4274-8d9c-33d8a528a396/dxwebsetup.exe

then on a clean fresh install of SFC 3, either patch with the Beta Patch, or use the SFC 3 DirectX 9 patch.. 1 or the other, not both or it will corrupt game.

Beta patch or the SFC 3 DirectX 9 fix can be found on my site at http://www.nightsoftware.com/effhq/sfc32.html

next.. downgrade your Vid Card drivers to one of the following known to operate SFC 3 and Elite Force II

these drivers are the Catalist 3.6, Catalist 2.6, or Catalist 2.3

Lower your screen resolution to 800x600 at 16 bit color..

Find your SFC3setup.exe and match game resolution to what your screen is at...

try game

if game works properly, increase resolution to a higher setting in both your game and for your monitor.. keep color at 16 bit

once you reach your max playable resolution, then increase color to 24 bit then 32 bit... go back to the color resolution that worked the best...

Hope this helps..

[Javora]

Quote:

Well folks it  keeps getting better and better.... I did the inf update and it crashed... Also tried updating the BIOS and got this wonderful little error:

ASUS BIOSINFO.DLL
Cannot detect ASUS BIOS
OK.
On OK. Installation aborted.

So now it appears the Bios can't detect the motherboard now SIGH.   Going to take a break and look at a new motherboard I can't afford now.... Any one knows a good MB for a Celeron 2.60Ghz chip and a Zalman flower CPU cooler I can buy?

Korus

Damn, sorry to hear that Korus.  Before you use that motherboard as a door stop try putting the Asus CD into your CD drive and boot up the system.  Your system should be like mine and have "Recovering the BIOS with CrashFree BIOS 2".  Your motherboard is different from mine so check your user guide.  If that doesn't work then try the "EZ Flash" by putting a copy of the Bios " .ROM" on a floppy disk (I would use a system disk) and boot the system.  Then boot the system and press the ALT+F2 during the Power-On Self tests (POST).  If that does not work I would call Asus and RMA the motherboard.  If they give you any hassle about the Bios failing, remind Asus that these boards are supposed to be able to recover from a Bios crash (IE Recovering the BIOS with CrashFree BIOS).  At most you should only be responsible for the shipping and handling.  Hope this helps.
 

[Javora]

Quote:

Wow! Toasty, I don't know what is up with that site, but EFII was released a few months ago. Yet another sign of Activision's wonderful support for Trek games.

Oh boy, for a minute there I thought I was losing my mind.  I was in best buy yesterday and I all most picked up that game.  Then I see that web site that ToastyO linked and I started thinking, "what in the world was I looking at".  Luckily Activision is not programming the SFC III patch them selves.  Activision might release it and forget to tell us about it, or they might wait for some stupid timer to run out.

[Sarcasm]
* Activision rep.*

Only -12 years, 7 months, 13 days, 19 hours, 41 minutes, and 3 seconds until the release of the SFC III patch!!!

* /   Activision rep.*
[/Sarcasm]


Edit:  Also if you look closely at the time on that Elite Force II web site.  You will see a minus ( - ) sign in front of the days.  Meaning that the game was release 13 days 20 hours and 57 minutes ago (at the time of this writing).  The thing is you can barely see that minus sign, Activision should have had a redesigned site ready at release time.  Or at least that web site should have just been taken down right after release.  For Activision to just put a minus sign in the web site would only confuse potential customers and just plain lazy.  

[korus]

  Just wanted to let you folks know I'm throwing in the towel and shipping this puppy to a computer shop... It's either that or start shopping for a new MB either way its going to cost me $$$$ to get this rig fixed... SIGH    Thanks for all your help guys! Thank you!

Korus    

[Kortez]

I have a Radeon 9600 XT with 256 MB RAM.  I have the beta patch installed, the Catalyst v3.8 drivers.  I have a Barton 3200+  on an ASUS A7N8X deluxe v1.07 motherboard.  I have 1.0 gb RAM.

SFC3 works just fine.


 

[Kroma_BaSyl]

Quote:
I have a Radeon 9600 XT with 256 MB RAM.  I have the beta patch installed, the Catalyst v3.8 drivers.  I have a Barton 3200+  on an ASUS A7N8X deluxe v1.07 motherboard.  I have 1.0 gb RAM.

SFC3 works just fine.


 

hehehe, that is basically the system I am in the process of building, although I have yet to decided whether or not to use the Nvidia 5700 instead of the ATI 9600.

[Kortez]

I would say it's a matter of preference for the video cards, though the ATI drivers may have overtaken the nVidia ones quite recently.

There are also some modded drivers out there that are cool.

Of course the best part is having the Barton 3200+ being 400 FSB now to match the mobo from ASUS.  With the right RAM it should scream!

GL!
 

[korus]

  Right now SFC 3 and ST: EF 2 are crashing on my sytems after 4 mins of gameplay...  Here are my specs:

ASUS P4800 Deluxe
2.60ghz Celeron
512 MB DDR Ram
Radeon 9600 PRO
25GB Quatum Fireball HD
Windows 98SE
Audigy 2 sound card
500 PSU

I'm currently using the latest Direct X but my drivers are Cataylyst 3.7... 3.8 causes my games to crash faster than 4 mins...  I won't be getting my new OS and HD until X-mas....  I want to have a stable system to play SFC III  again and Elite Forces II dagnab it... Anyone have any ideas? I'm tired of reformatting and trying different cat drivers...

Korus  

[Javora]

1.  Are you over clocking your video card or CPU?
2.  What is the error (if any) when the system crashes?  Need an exact quote here.
3.  What Bios version do you have?
4.  Is your video card on it's own IRQ?
5.  What Bios version do you have running your motherboard?

If you are not using at least Bios version 1010 I would suggest flashing your Bios to either 1010 or 1011.  I guessing that you just installed the 9600 Pro, which is why you are asking if anyone else has it installed on his or her system.  I'm not totally sold on the idea that it is your video card.  Especially since you have an Audigy 2 sound card, there might be a conflict between the sound card and another component.  If you do not find the answer you are looking for try posting your questions here.  Hope this helps.
 

[Sirgod]

Correct me if I'm wrong, But I believe some one mentioned using the Catalyst 3.2 or even the 2.2 drivers to get the game working.

For SFC3, Do you have the Beta Patch? I'd try that first, as your system is more then enough to run SFC3, Not sure about EF2 though, as I don't have that game yet.

You can find a link to the patch in the announcement section of the forums, Or the Various fan sites, such as SFC3.net , SFC universe, ToastO's site, Or of course XenoCorp. also capt. Castrin has a site also.

Too many to recall at one time actually.

Stephen

[Javora]

Quote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, But I believe some one mentioned using the Catalyst 3.2 or even the 2.2 drivers to get the game working.

Stephen

Are you serious??!?  I just can't believe that someone would have to go back to 3.2 Catalyst just to get SFC III working.  I'm using 3.7 Catalyst drivers on my ATI 7500 right now with no problems.  So if that were the case then it would have to be something with the 9600 Pro.  I'm not doubting you heard that Sirgod, I just find it hard to believe that the board it self is the problem.
 

[Javora]

I just remembered something, Korus.  Did you install the Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility?  If you have not, you can download the driver directly from Intel.  Remember you should install this utility right after you install the operating system and before you install any drivers on your system.  Hope this helps.

Edit:  BTW Korus, is that the Asus P4800 Deluxe, P4C800 Deluxe, or the P4C800-E Deluxe.  It makes a difference when looking for the latest Bios and IIRC the Intel drivers.

[Sirgod]

Quote:

Quote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, But I believe some one mentioned using the Catalyst 3.2 or even the 2.2 drivers to get the game working.

Stephen

Are you serious??!?  I just can't believe that someone would have to go back to 3.2 Catalyst just to get SFC III working.  I'm using 3.7 Catalyst drivers on my ATI 7500 right now with no problems.  So if that were the case then it would have to be something with the 9600 Pro.  I'm not doubting you heard that Sirgod, I just find it hard to believe that the board it self is the problem.
   

 I very well could be wrong, I just think I recalled someone mentioning It in a thread. Personally I like the radeon series also, and It very well could have been a different game altogether also. I've been so busy with the move, unpacking Painting, fixing, My minds not quite right.  

Stephen

[korus]

Quote:
1.  Are you over clocking your video card or CPU?
2.  What is the error (if any) when the system crashes?  Need an exact quote here.
3.  What Bios version do you have?
4.  Is your video card on it's own IRQ?
5.  What Bios version do you have running your motherboard?

If you are not using at least Bios version 1010 I would suggest flashing your Bios to either 1010 or 1011.  I guessing that you just installed the 9600 Pro, which is why you are asking if anyone else has it installed on his or her system.  I'm not totally sold on the idea that it is your video card.  Especially since you have an Audigy 2 sound card, there might be a conflict between the sound card and another component.  If you do not find the answer you are looking for try posting your questions here.  Hope this helps.
   

  1.  No overclocking whatso ever....
2.  No error after exactly 5 mins of gameplay the game freezes totally and the audio loops like a broken record.
3.  0.2063
4.  I'd have to check... Not sure.
5. 1010

Hope this helps...

Korus  

[korus]

Quote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, But I believe some one mentioned using the Catalyst 3.2 or even the 2.2 drivers to get the game working.

For SFC3, Do you have the Beta Patch? I'd try that first, as your system is more then enough to run SFC3, Not sure about EF2 though, as I don't have that game yet.

You can find a link to the patch in the announcement section of the forums, Or the Various fan sites, such as SFC3.net , SFC universe, ToastO's site, Or of course XenoCorp. also capt. Castrin has a site also.

Too many to recall at one time actually.

Stephen  

  Currently I was using just the plain vanilla SFC 3 to play on  what's left of the Activsion Servers... I don't have the Beta installed as of yet... I'm waiting for the final one if it ever appears hehe...   Again Thanks for  the help here...

Korus    

[korus]

Quote:
I just remembered something, Korus.  Did you install the Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility?  If you have not, you can download the driver directly from Intel.  Remember you should install this utility right after you install the operating system and before you install any drivers on your system.  Hope this helps.

Edit:  BTW Korus, is that the Asus P4800 Deluxe, P4C800 Deluxe, or the P4C800-E Deluxe.  It makes a difference when looking for the latest Bios and IIRC the Intel drivers.
 

  Actually I did check and I believe I have the current .inf files.  And that was the first thing I did when I installed Windows.... I addeded the inf drivers from the motherboard CD. Then I rebooted as normal.  MY board is the P4P800 Deluxe.  No revision D, C, etc.... I guess I could flash the bios again to see if there's a new bios out...  Again Thanks for the response!  
EDIT:  Here's the current inf driver in my system:
Intel(R) Chipset Software Installation Utility 5.00.1012.
Is that the latest driver?
Korus  

[Javora]

Quote:

1.  No overclocking whatso ever....
2.  No error after exactly 5 mins of gameplay the game freezes totally and the audio loops like a broken record.
3.  0.2063
4.  I'd have to check... Not sure.
5. 1010

Hope this helps...

Korus

Now that's odd...

Are there any other games or programs that is freezing like this?  I would still check the to see if the video card is on it's own IRQ or not.  Did you install the latest Intel chipset drivers before loading any other drivers?  I ask this again because the Intel driver that came with the Asus motherboard has known issues.  Also exactly what Asus motherboard do you have, as it can make a difference?
 

[Javora]

Quote:

Actually I did check and I believe I have the current .inf files.  And that was the first thing I did when I installed Windows.... I addeded the inf drivers from the motherboard CD. Then I rebooted as normal.  MY board is the P4P800 Deluxe.  No revision D, C, etc.... I guess I could flash the bios again to see if there's a new bios out...  Again Thanks for the response!  
EDIT:  Here's the current inf driver in my system:
Intel(R) Chipset Software Installation Utility 5.00.1012.
Is that the latest driver?
Korus

I wouldn't bother flashing your Bios, and version 1011 introduces some bugs that version 1010 doesn't have.  The latest Intel drivers according to the Intel  web page is version 5.0.2.1003 created on 8/27/2003.  The drivers you have listed IIRC are beta drivers sent and should say so in the Asus CD.  Hope this helps.
 

[Javora]

Quote:

I very well could be wrong, I just think I recalled someone mentioning It in a thread. Personally I like the radeon series also, and It very well could have been a different game altogether also. I've been so busy with the move, unpacking Painting, fixing, My minds not quite right.  

Stephen

No worries Sirgod, I know you have a lot going on.  The important thing is you're trying to help.    The Asus motherboards of late has been having some serious issues lately.    That is why I am looking at this problem as a motherboard issue.  Asus motherboards have given a lot of people and myself some serious headaches.  I own a P4C800-E Deluxe so unfortunately I?m speaking from experience.  
 

[Sirgod]

Quote:

Quote:

I very well could be wrong, I just think I recalled someone mentioning It in a thread. Personally I like the radeon series also, and It very well could have been a different game altogether also. I've been so busy with the move, unpacking Painting, fixing, My minds not quite right.  

Stephen

No worries Sirgod, I know you have a lot going on.  The important thing is you're trying to help.    The Asus motherboards of late has been having some serious issues lately.    That is why I am looking at this problem as a motherboard issue.  Asus motherboards have given a lot of people and myself some serious headaches.  I own a P4C800-E Deluxe so unfortunately I?m speaking from experience.  
   

Hey no Problem, I just recently switched back to MSI myself, so I know what yor going through. The differance between asus And MSI are almost negligable, as far as Problems are concerned.

Stephen

[Toasty0]

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Correct me if I'm wrong, But I believe some one mentioned using the Catalyst 3.2 or even the 2.2 drivers to get the game working.

For SFC3, Do you have the Beta Patch? I'd try that first, as your system is more then enough to run SFC3, Not sure about EF2 though, as I don't have that game yet.

You can find a link to the patch in the announcement section of the forums, Or the Various fan sites, such as SFC3.net , SFC universe, ToastO's site, Or of course XenoCorp. also capt. Castrin has a site also.

Too many to recall at one time actually.

Stephen  

  Currently I was using just the plain vanilla SFC 3 to play on  what's left of the Activsion Servers... I don't have the Beta installed as of yet... I'm waiting for the final one if it ever appears hehe...   Again Thanks for  the help here...

Korus      

You're being able to play at all with DX9 is a miracle.  

[Javora]

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You're being able to play at all with DX9 is a miracle.

Actually ToastyO that is a good point, but that doesn't explain Elite Force II doing the same thing.  Unless Elite Force II also requires a DirectX 9 patch.  Korus install the SFC III DirectX 9 patch if you haven't already and see what happens.  If that fixes the issue with SFC III then it could really help narrow things down a bit.  Good Catch ToastyO.  
 

[korus]

  Well folks it  keeps getting better and better.... I did the inf update and it crashed... Also tried updating the BIOS and got this wonderful little error:

ASUS BIOSINFO.DLL
Cannot detect ASUS BIOS
OK.
On OK. Installation aborted.

So now it appears the Bios can't detect the motherboard now SIGH.   Going to take a break and look at a new motherboard I can't afford now.... Any one knows a good MB for a Celeron 2.60Ghz chip and a Zalman flower CPU cooler I can buy?

Korus  

[Toasty0]

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You're being able to play at all with DX9 is a miracle.

Actually ToastyO that is a good point, but that doesn't explain Elite Force II doing the same thing.  Unless Elite Force II also requires a DirectX 9 patch.  Korus install the SFC III DirectX 9 patch if you haven't already and see what happens.  If that fixes the issue with SFC III then it could really help narrow things down a bit.  Good Catch ToastyO.  
   

Oh my, I must be confused. I thought the game was a couple weeks away. http://www.st-ef2.com/home.html

Never the less, SFC was released shortly before (like days before) the release of DX9 thus the reason for the patch.

If he has the EFII-demo, welp, a demo can be as buggy as any game and we could be seeing the result of two seperate issues. We won't know uintil we get at least one of these games working.

Best,
Jerry  

[feargusf]

Wow! Toasty, I don't know what is up with that site, but EFII was released a few months ago. Yet another sign of Activision's wonderful support for Trek games.  

[Pestalence]

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  Right now SFC 3 and ST: EF 2 are crashing on my sytems after 4 mins of gameplay...  Here are my specs:

ASUS P4800 Deluxe
2.60ghz Celeron
512 MB DDR Ram
Radeon 9600 PRO
25GB Quatum Fireball HD
Windows 98SE
Audigy 2 sound card
500 PSU

I'm currently using the latest Direct X but my drivers are Cataylyst 3.7... 3.8 causes my games to crash faster than 4 mins...  I won't be getting my new OS and HD until X-mas....  I want to have a stable system to play SFC III  again and Elite Forces II dagnab it... Anyone have any ideas? I'm tired of reformatting and trying different cat drivers...

Korus    

Try this... simple trouble shooting...

First, make sure you are running DirectX 9.0b

Direct DL link here : http://download.microsoft.com/download/7/3/c/73cc71c0-13d9-4274-8d9c-33d8a528a396/dxwebsetup.exe

then on a clean fresh install of SFC 3, either patch with the Beta Patch, or use the SFC 3 DirectX 9 patch.. 1 or the other, not both or it will corrupt game.

Beta patch or the SFC 3 DirectX 9 fix can be found on my site at http://www.nightsoftware.com/effhq/sfc32.html

next.. downgrade your Vid Card drivers to one of the following known to operate SFC 3 and Elite Force II

these drivers are the Catalist 3.6, Catalist 2.6, or Catalist 2.3

Lower your screen resolution to 800x600 at 16 bit color..

Find your SFC3setup.exe and match game resolution to what your screen is at...

try game

if game works properly, increase resolution to a higher setting in both your game and for your monitor.. keep color at 16 bit

once you reach your max playable resolution, then increase color to 24 bit then 32 bit... go back to the color resolution that worked the best...

Hope this helps..

[Javora]

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Well folks it  keeps getting better and better.... I did the inf update and it crashed... Also tried updating the BIOS and got this wonderful little error:

ASUS BIOSINFO.DLL
Cannot detect ASUS BIOS
OK.
On OK. Installation aborted.

So now it appears the Bios can't detect the motherboard now SIGH.   Going to take a break and look at a new motherboard I can't afford now.... Any one knows a good MB for a Celeron 2.60Ghz chip and a Zalman flower CPU cooler I can buy?

Korus

Damn, sorry to hear that Korus.  Before you use that motherboard as a door stop try putting the Asus CD into your CD drive and boot up the system.  Your system should be like mine and have "Recovering the BIOS with CrashFree BIOS 2".  Your motherboard is different from mine so check your user guide.  If that doesn't work then try the "EZ Flash" by putting a copy of the Bios " .ROM" on a floppy disk (I would use a system disk) and boot the system.  Then boot the system and press the ALT+F2 during the Power-On Self tests (POST).  If that does not work I would call Asus and RMA the motherboard.  If they give you any hassle about the Bios failing, remind Asus that these boards are supposed to be able to recover from a Bios crash (IE Recovering the BIOS with CrashFree BIOS).  At most you should only be responsible for the shipping and handling.  Hope this helps.
 

[Javora]

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Wow! Toasty, I don't know what is up with that site, but EFII was released a few months ago. Yet another sign of Activision's wonderful support for Trek games.

Oh boy, for a minute there I thought I was losing my mind.  I was in best buy yesterday and I all most picked up that game.  Then I see that web site that ToastyO linked and I started thinking, "what in the world was I looking at".  Luckily Activision is not programming the SFC III patch them selves.  Activision might release it and forget to tell us about it, or they might wait for some stupid timer to run out.

[Sarcasm]
* Activision rep.*

Only -12 years, 7 months, 13 days, 19 hours, 41 minutes, and 3 seconds until the release of the SFC III patch!!!

* /   Activision rep.*
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Edit:  Also if you look closely at the time on that Elite Force II web site.  You will see a minus ( - ) sign in front of the days.  Meaning that the game was release 13 days 20 hours and 57 minutes ago (at the time of this writing).  The thing is you can barely see that minus sign, Activision should have had a redesigned site ready at release time.  Or at least that web site should have just been taken down right after release.  For Activision to just put a minus sign in the web site would only confuse potential customers and just plain lazy.  

[korus]

  Just wanted to let you folks know I'm throwing in the towel and shipping this puppy to a computer shop... It's either that or start shopping for a new MB either way its going to cost me $$$$ to get this rig fixed... SIGH    Thanks for all your help guys! Thank you!

Korus    

[Kortez]

I have a Radeon 9600 XT with 256 MB RAM.  I have the beta patch installed, the Catalyst v3.8 drivers.  I have a Barton 3200+  on an ASUS A7N8X deluxe v1.07 motherboard.  I have 1.0 gb RAM.

SFC3 works just fine.


 

[Kroma_BaSyl]

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I have a Radeon 9600 XT with 256 MB RAM.  I have the beta patch installed, the Catalyst v3.8 drivers.  I have a Barton 3200+  on an ASUS A7N8X deluxe v1.07 motherboard.  I have 1.0 gb RAM.

SFC3 works just fine.


 

hehehe, that is basically the system I am in the process of building, although I have yet to decided whether or not to use the Nvidia 5700 instead of the ATI 9600.

[Kortez]

I would say it's a matter of preference for the video cards, though the ATI drivers may have overtaken the nVidia ones quite recently.

There are also some modded drivers out there that are cool.

Of course the best part is having the Barton 3200+ being 400 FSB now to match the mobo from ASUS.  With the right RAM it should scream!

GL!