Topic: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!  (Read 14028 times)

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DestinyCalling

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Re: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!
« Reply #60 on: November 03, 2003, 05:16:38 pm »
Thanks for clearing that up.... Just one thing though, I thought Task Force had the whole "ownership of names business" sorted...

Oh well  

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Re: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!
« Reply #61 on: November 03, 2003, 08:00:28 pm »
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Thanks for clearing that up.... Just one thing though, I thought Task Force had the whole "ownership of names business" sorted...

Oh well  




But they are not using Kzinti in a computer game.   The Ringworld license is exclusive for computer game use.  SFB as a boardgame bypasses that.  I don't know if they ever legitimzed the use of Kzinti there or if Niven just "overlooks" it.

I think that it is now Amarillo Design Bureau (ADB) that owns the rights and Taskforce Games is no longer in existance (bought out by New World ?).
 

NightStalker-SFC3

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Re: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!
« Reply #62 on: November 12, 2003, 09:05:43 pm »
Are the Mirak/Kzinti canines or felines?  

Pestalence

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Re: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!
« Reply #63 on: November 12, 2003, 09:07:55 pm »
Feline.... and IMHO.. Never trust a Kat... JK.. everyone playing has a great sense of humor here..

IMHO (in My Humble Opinion) For those who don't know the abbreviation..
 

NightStalker-SFC3

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Re: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!
« Reply #64 on: November 12, 2003, 09:31:50 pm »
LOL! IMHO is one of the abbreviations I am familiar with.

So the Lyran and the Mirak are both felines?

What about the Andromedans? Are they humanoid?  

Rod O'neal

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Re: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!
« Reply #65 on: November 12, 2003, 09:55:47 pm »
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LOL! IMHO is one of the abbreviations I am familiar with.

So the Lyran and the Mirak are both felines?

What about the Andromedans? Are they humanoid?    




Nobody's ever seen an Andromedan and lived to tell about it!  

mathcubeguy

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Re: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!
« Reply #66 on: November 12, 2003, 10:00:39 pm »
So the Kzin are feline yet the Mastiff is named after a DOG?

That doesnt make much sense

Rod O'neal

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Re: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!
« Reply #67 on: November 12, 2003, 10:10:52 pm »
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So the Kzin are feline yet the Mastiff is named after a DOG?

That doesnt make much sense  




I'm guessing that Taldren decided to make the Mirak and Lyrans mortal enemies by making the Mirak K9(?). Totally relieving themselves of being accused of copying the Kzinti from a licensing point. Can you say, "smoke screen"?  

As a sidebar, there was a race in SFB that was K9. They were located in the section of space between the Lyrans and the Kzintis. They were wiped out shortly after warp drive was discovered by their neighbors. Go figure!    

Kaenyne

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Re: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!
« Reply #68 on: November 13, 2003, 10:13:23 am »
Cool sig, TalonClaw

Jim

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Re: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!
« Reply #69 on: November 13, 2003, 10:48:29 am »
In SFB, there are nasty rumors that the Lyrans and Kzinti actually evolved from the same race...

Never mention this theory when there are any Lyrans or Kzinti around... they seem to be very sensitive to this subject.

Jim

Bistrogamer

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Re: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!
« Reply #70 on: November 13, 2003, 10:57:10 am »
That was one f the things I was most dismayed about wen I bought SFC-I... The "Lyran" pictured looks more like some sort of bat-lizard than Lynx-like feline (as described in SFB IIRC).

Besides, Lyrans have nicer afts than those @$%# drone-swarming rat-tailed Kzin ayway.  

Raise ESGs!  (H)

DaveyE

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Re: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!
« Reply #71 on: November 13, 2003, 12:22:54 pm »
Besides, Lyrans have nicer afts than those @$%# drone-swarming rat-tailed Kzin ayway.

 
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 Raise ESGs! (H)  




AND DIE  

Lyrans are soooooooo inferiour    

TalonClaw

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Re: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!
« Reply #72 on: November 13, 2003, 12:28:06 pm »
In SFC1 Lyrans ruled.  Wait for the enemy to fire and then rush in with 0 ESG's.  Goodbye enemy.

Bistrogamer

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Re: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!
« Reply #73 on: November 13, 2003, 04:12:53 pm »
Timing is everything.  

I actually won a couple times at GenCon a dozen years ago with a Lyran TCC when dum-dums tried to do overload-overruns on me.  If the ESG didn't kill them outright the Mine did.

Imagine the shock when they realized I hadn't even charged my disruptors.

Gotta love massive shield reinforcement, high speed and zero-radius ESGs.

(H)

NightStalker-SFC3

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Re: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!
« Reply #74 on: November 13, 2003, 04:26:17 pm »
Do the Andromedans have allies? If so, has anyone talked to the ally or allies and lived?  

Aldaron

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Re: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!
« Reply #75 on: November 14, 2003, 12:52:26 pm »
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Do the Andromedans have allies? If so, has anyone talked to the ally or allies and lived?  




No the Andromedans are from outside the galaxy and have no allies. (Think of them as SFB's Borg ). They were only defeated by an alliance of most of the races in the galaxy.  

Bistrogamer

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Re: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!
« Reply #76 on: November 14, 2003, 02:11:42 pm »
RE: Andys

IIRC they introduced themselves in TOS by turning Kirk's crew into styrofoam decahedrons.

Extras in Red Shirts got "crush me" embossed into theirs....

(H)
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NightStalker-SFC3

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Re: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!
« Reply #77 on: November 14, 2003, 09:10:46 pm »
No one bothered to look at the remains floating around in space after a ship was destroyed?

The Andromedans never tried to board a ship during the war with the alliance?

How did the war end? I assume the Andromedans were not wiped out completely. So there would have to have been a peace treaty signed or at the very least a cease fire.

Forgive me. I had never heard of the Andromedans until I started reading the posts on this forum. I also have no idea where to find more information about them. Surely my questions are legitimate questions. Even the enemies in Babylon 5 eventually showed themselves.

Thanks for your time.  

jimmi7769

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Re: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!
« Reply #78 on: November 14, 2003, 09:54:47 pm »
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So the Kzin are feline yet the Mastiff is named after a DOG?

That doesnt make much sense  




thats a Taldren name to further along the dog idea that they created. Kzinti names for fighters were much less exciting.

AAS,SS,HAAS,TAAS,TADS, AND DAS.

jimmi7769

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Re: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!
« Reply #79 on: November 14, 2003, 10:12:15 pm »
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No one bothered to look at the remains floating around in space after a ship was destroyed?
 Some thought they were Ethereal beingsd and nor corporeal  

The Andromedans never tried to board a ship during the war with the alliance?
 Beaming into even a full PA panel was impossible  

How did the war end? I assume the Andromedans were not wiped out completely. So there would have to have been a peace treaty signed or at the very least a cease fire.
  No treaty, no ceasefire.  They were beaten down with only a few straglers who still attacked on occasion but with X-Ships the galaxy powers had little to fear.

Forgive me. I had never heard of the Andromedans until I started reading the posts on this forum. I also have no idea where to find more information about them. Surely my questions are legitimate questions. Even the enemies in Babylon 5 eventually showed themselves.
 legitimate yes  

Thanks for your time.