Topic: Mirak/Kzinti confusion!!!!

[Bistrogamer]

Timing is everything.  

I actually won a couple times at GenCon a dozen years ago with a Lyran TCC when dum-dums tried to do overload-overruns on me.  If the ESG didn't kill them outright the Mine did.

Imagine the shock when they realized I hadn't even charged my disruptors.

Gotta love massive shield reinforcement, high speed and zero-radius ESGs.

(H)

[NightStalker-SFC3]

Do the Andromedans have allies? If so, has anyone talked to the ally or allies and lived?  

[Aldaron]

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Do the Andromedans have allies? If so, has anyone talked to the ally or allies and lived?  

No the Andromedans are from outside the galaxy and have no allies. (Think of them as SFB's Borg ). They were only defeated by an alliance of most of the races in the galaxy.  

[Bistrogamer]

RE: Andys

IIRC they introduced themselves in TOS by turning Kirk's crew into styrofoam decahedrons.

Extras in Red Shirts got "crush me" embossed into theirs....

(H)

[NightStalker-SFC3]

No one bothered to look at the remains floating around in space after a ship was destroyed?

The Andromedans never tried to board a ship during the war with the alliance?

How did the war end? I assume the Andromedans were not wiped out completely. So there would have to have been a peace treaty signed or at the very least a cease fire.

Forgive me. I had never heard of the Andromedans until I started reading the posts on this forum. I also have no idea where to find more information about them. Surely my questions are legitimate questions. Even the enemies in Babylon 5 eventually showed themselves.

Thanks for your time.  

[jimmi7769]

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So the Kzin are feline yet the Mastiff is named after a DOG?

That doesnt make much sense  

thats a Taldren name to further along the dog idea that they created. Kzinti names for fighters were much less exciting.

AAS,SS,HAAS,TAAS,TADS, AND DAS.

[jimmi7769]

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No one bothered to look at the remains floating around in space after a ship was destroyed?
 Some thought they were Ethereal beingsd and nor corporeal  

The Andromedans never tried to board a ship during the war with the alliance?
 Beaming into even a full PA panel was impossible  

How did the war end? I assume the Andromedans were not wiped out completely. So there would have to have been a peace treaty signed or at the very least a cease fire.
  No treaty, no ceasefire.  They were beaten down with only a few straglers who still attacked on occasion but with X-Ships the galaxy powers had little to fear.

Forgive me. I had never heard of the Andromedans until I started reading the posts on this forum. I also have no idea where to find more information about them. Surely my questions are legitimate questions. Even the enemies in Babylon 5 eventually showed themselves.
 legitimate yes  

Thanks for your time.  

 

[Rod O'neal]

Andromedans had robots that were used for BPs. They did have some *dealings* with pirates, on occasion. Evidently though there was no face to face or even voice contact with them. the physical make up, or lack there of, just isn't known.

[insert]"Theme music from Outer Limits"[/insert]    

[Rogue]

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No one bothered to look at the remains floating around in space after a ship was destroyed?

The Andromedans never tried to board a ship during the war with the alliance?

How did the war end? I assume the Andromedans were not wiped out completely. So there would have to have been a peace treaty signed or at the very least a cease fire.

Forgive me. I had never heard of the Andromedans until I started reading the posts on this forum. I also have no idea where to find more information about them. Surely my questions are legitimate questions. Even the enemies in Babylon 5 eventually showed themselves.

Thanks for your time.  

Pretty much what has been said already. It was intentional to make the Andromedans as mysterious as possible. Therefor rationalizations were given like "It is unknown whether the Andromedan boarding parties were robots or whether the Andromedans themselves wer artificial life forms." And  "Few have had engaged the Andromedans and survived the experience to tell the tale." You have to wonder how many boarding attempts were made before they figured out they were being absorbed into the PA's and boarding procedures were changed.

If I recall, though, some technology from salvaged Andromedan wreckage made it into the X ships. The high capacity batteries were a development of what was learned from Andromedan battery technology. Its' been a long time and I might not be right about that. As usual other races technology could seldom be used by anyone but that race.  

[Aldaron]

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No one bothered to look at the remains floating around in space after a ship was destroyed?

The Andromedans never tried to board a ship during the war with the alliance?

How did the war end? I assume the Andromedans were not wiped out completely. So there would have to have been a peace treaty signed or at the very least a cease fire.

Forgive me. I had never heard of the Andromedans until I started reading the posts on this forum. I also have no idea where to find more information about them. Surely my questions are legitimate questions. Even the enemies in Babylon 5 eventually showed themselves.

Thanks for your time.  

As been said before the Boarding parties that were sent to other ships were robots. Because of the PA panels which absorb all energy (used in place of shields) Andromedan ships could not be boarded.

The Andromedans were using a transwarp network similar to Borg (realise this was way before Borg were though of and I think they stole some ideas from SFB). The alliance finally discovered this and thus realised that's how they were getting around the galaxy so fast so each was captured destroyed until fiannaly they found the one that led to a starbase outside the galaxy that the Andromedans using as a rallying point from thier galaxy. The Alliance formed a task force and took out this base thus ending the invasion.

 

[NightStalker-SFC3]

Thank you all for your replies and more importantly thank you all for not flaming. I am glad you all understood that I was just trying to understand the concept of the Andromedans. And now thanks to your replies I do have a much better understanding of the Andromedans. They are truly mysterious. SFB covered all the bases with the use of robots. It makes me want to see what they could do in SFC. Even against an X-ship the Andromedans have the superior ship given equal numbers in my opinion. Thanks again.  

[Rogue]

Yer welcome. Don't worry about not being familiar with Andy. Those of us who flew him or against him from SFB know many of the ins and outs with this race. That's part of the attraction to this whole SFC experience as it evolved directly from SFB which has a rich storyline. Some of that is pretty interesting fiction.

If you never had to contend with the Andromedans your in for a rough ride. Conceptualy they operated fairly large vessels that give new meaning to being a carrier. Their satelite ships played somewhere between destroyer and light cruiser in capability. Most alpha sector ships can't match the mother ships to start with, much less that and the support ships. The races matched differently with Andro technology and the BPV got skewed depending on what the match was. Races that had a more direct fire damage capability tended to fair better than those that relied on seeking weapons and faster fire rates. Worst of all is the Andromedans had an answer for most any tactic you tried. The only thing I can think of that worked perfectly is the stasis device that never appeared in SFC. Even then you had to get in range which a good Andro captain won't let happen.

Note. Even in SFB there were rule changes to reduce the Andromedan capabilities and make them more expensive. Those that played the original rules were either delighted or baffled depending on which end of the gun you were.

[Aldaron]

Yeah the Andromedan Terminator was a nasty little destroyer. What didn't kill it was in turned killed as all that energy that was poured into the PA panels was channeled into it's mauler and fired back at the ship.

[NightStalker-SFC3]

What does the PA in PA panel stand for?  

[Bonk]

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What does the PA in PA panel stand for?  

Power Absorber Panel.  Andros had no sheilds, just PA panels which could absorb weapons damage and dump the energy into batteries, up to a limit... That was the beauty of Andros, destroy your primitive enemies with their own energy!  As a defense I found massed photons to be an adequate threat to overload the PA panels of most smaller Andro ships.  

[NightStalker-SFC3]

They sound more intimidating than the Borg! If there is ever an SFC game that has the Andromedans as enemies I will be extremely cautious engaging them in battle!  

[TargetDrone]

The funny thing is, the Andros in SFB have been toned down. All ships used to have heavy TRs, and panels that didn't degrade. While all ships had 12 T-Bombs, the Andros got more use out of thiers since they didn't have to drop PAs to use them.

Only psychopaths like myself considered playing the Operation Unity campaign.  

[Rob Cole]

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In SFC1 Lyrans ruled.  Wait for the enemy to fire and then rush in with 0 ESG's.  Goodbye enemy.  

Bah you know that the R-KCR was the master of SFC1

[Pestalence]

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In SFC1 Lyrans ruled.  Wait for the enemy to fire and then rush in with 0 ESG's.  Goodbye enemy.  

Bah you know that the R-KCR was the master of SFC1  

only because the R-KCR was overpowered by 10 power overall.. if their power was balanced.. it would be on par with the BCG / BCF...

 

[Corbomite]

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In SFC1 Lyrans ruled.  Wait for the enemy to fire and then rush in with 0 ESG's.  Goodbye enemy.  

Bah you know that the R-KCR was the master of SFC1  

only because the R-KCR was overpowered by 10 power overall.. if their power was balanced.. it would be on par with the BCG / BCF...

 

It had the same power. It was the 14 PH-1's that were the killer.