Topic: SFC IV: Galaxies at War - SFB  (Read 7962 times)

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Potemkin

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SFC IV: Galaxies at War - SFB
« on: October 29, 2003, 11:46:40 pm »
So, I have seen a bit of folks talking about creating SFB for the computer - complete.  

IF this is going to happen, it will have to be a coordinated effort.  

So, where to start?  The design!

What is this going to have?   What will make it stand apart?
WHO is going to program it?  What engines are available?

Who is interested???  Speak up!!!


Po~ - ready to fly an Andromedan ship!
   

Pestalence

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Re: SFC IV: Galaxies at War - SFB
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2003, 12:02:14 am »
Umm Taldren has already stated that the game engine is not going anywhere, and that they are not doing any more SFC based games or any trek games for that matter anytime in the forseeable future....

So, first, someone would have to build a totally unique game engine, second, someone would have to model the models, third, someone would have to script it, and fourth, someone would have to contract it and distribute it with all the liscenses.. currently Activision and Paramount/Viacom...

Also this has been takled about on this forum so much that it is basically a dead horse and as such, many are still upset that GAW by Taldren got canned because of Activision and SFC 3 game sales, and.. and.. and...

this be a dead horse unless someone volunteers to start a game production company and start buying some liscenses and rights...
 

Toasty0

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Re: SFC IV: Galaxies at War - SFB
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2003, 12:08:27 am »
Hi-ho, Silver and...

Silver? Silver, c'mon boy, let's us ride like the...C'mon, Silver, don't make it look like I'm beating a dead horse here...

 
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GT-Keravnos

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Re: SFC IV: Galaxies at War - SFB
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2003, 05:39:19 am »
I don't know whether to salute you for making me dream once more,

OR

For crying murder, bloody murder for making me remember ONCE AGAIN that OP is the end.

Dunno...  

FireSoul

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Re: SFC IV: Galaxies at War - SFB
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2003, 05:52:45 am »
OP's not the end..
It's just the end, at the moment of right now. I am positive that if the fans continue to play and want more, more will be given, eventually.

Pestalence

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Re: SFC IV: Galaxies at War - SFB
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2003, 07:20:22 am »
Erik did state to see what the future holds and when trek gaming came out from under Activision

this that in mind, maybe Taldren will acquire the Liscenses that are needed and publish a SFC game on thier own in the future...

I think the statement was " no more SFC games in the FORSEEABLE future" which means it is not totally dead.. just being placed on hold in the event that circumstances will allow for it's creation and the market is there, then it may have a chance to be done... but not for several tears due to liscenses and rights and who has them all....

as stated above.. the horse is near dead... let his foal grow and when it is fully grown, it may take the place of it's sire....

the demand of OP and SFC3 is great for the future of SFC.. as well as those still using SFC 1 and EAW..

which in all actuality should shout to Taldren.. we want GAW on it's own.

 

Gamester

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Re: SFC IV: Galaxies at War - SFB
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2003, 08:11:29 am »
Hey, Relic recently released the source code for Homeworld for free download. Maybe someone could do SFC GAW as a Homeworld mod - that'd be kinda weird and cool.


Gamester
 

FireSoul

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Re: SFC IV: Galaxies at War - SFB
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2003, 08:19:20 am »
The big problem with this source code, is that it contains materials copyrighted to Paramount and ADB.  The game is BASED on something else, while homeworld is a new creation. (right?)

Sirgod

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Re: SFC IV: Galaxies at War - SFB
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2003, 08:25:02 am »
All I know Is if that horse isn't quite dead yet, I'd be more then willing to go in and give It a B-12 shot.  

Sethan

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Re: SFC IV: Galaxies at War - SFB
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2003, 12:03:41 pm »
"Hi - Aunt Marian?  Its Adam."

"...Adam.  You remember, Diane's son."

"...Walter and Katherine's Grandson.  ...yes, that's right."

"I know we haven't talked in twenty years, but I was wondering if you might consider chipping in with some other relatives to get me a copy of "Galaxies at War" this Christmas.  ...No?  Oh, that's a shame.  Well, I'll be talking to Aunt Sena next, and I'm sure she'll be interested to finally know what happened to Grandpa's antique cuckoo clock before the funeral."

"...What's that?  You will be able to send something?  Well that's great.  Talk to you later."

---

"Hello, Aunt Sena?  It's Adam.

"...Adam.  You remember, Diane's son."

"...Walter and Katherine's Grandson.  ...yes, that's right."

"I know we haven't talked in twenty years..."

NuclearWessels

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Re: SFC IV: Galaxies at War - SFB
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2003, 05:49:05 pm »
Heh ... how much material could an unofficial OP "patch" add to the game without incurring the Wrath of Paramount?

 

 

Rogue

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Re: SFC IV: Galaxies at War - SFB
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2003, 07:46:03 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

Heh ... how much material could an unofficial OP "patch" add to the game without incurring the Wrath of Paramount?

 

   




Depends.   Are we talking about someone within the reach of the Western legal system or not?

IT'S A JOKE!  I SWEAR!!   <runs and hides>

 




I like the thought... Direct to to you from the Taldren development studios aboard Starbase Zed. (Formerly British Patroleum oil rig # 27, Gulf of Tonka) we bring you... GALAXIES AT WAR!


*Note - Screw you Larry Niven. The Mirak just claimed their proper name of the Kzinti... so, nya. Feel free to file for damages but the law in Starbase Zed dictates severe penalties (don't ask, it is really ugly) for those filing objectionable claims.  

SSCF Hooch

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Re: SFC IV: Galaxies at War - SFB
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2003, 09:49:33 pm »
Quote:

Heh ... how much material could an unofficial OP "patch" add to the game without incurring the Wrath of Paramount?

   




Dear Evil Dave, you are evil ain'tcha...

I what a wonderful thought you have there, why I would even pay money for such a patch  , all the way up to say $49.99.  

Potemkin

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Re: SFC IV: Galaxies at War - SFB
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2003, 10:44:51 pm »
To be more specific, I thought we could find a "good" game engine (donations are appreciated).  We have plenty of modelers that would be willing to create ships.  There's a bunch of mission scriptors already familiar with scenario building.

Seriously - Though I have never put together this large of a project, I think it could be done.

Software projects are known to take years - except Battlecruiser 3000AD, which took over a decade...  

And yes, the licensing issues.  I know, I know.  That's why it will have to remain anonymous and - of course, we wouldn't make a dime (free software?)


Okay, so, back to square one.  Designers, programmers, scriptors, modelers, QA, and lawyers (blech!).

Who else is required?


Po~

     

Pestalence

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Re: SFC IV: Galaxies at War - SFB
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2003, 11:51:20 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

Heh ... how much material could an unofficial OP "patch" add to the game without incurring the Wrath of Paramount?

 

   




Depends.   Are we talking about someone within the reach of the Western legal system or not?

IT'S A JOKE!  I SWEAR!!   <runs and hides>

 




Taldren Korea ?
 

Mr. Hypergol

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Re: SFC IV: Galaxies at War - SFB
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2003, 12:01:43 am »
I want my Galaxies at War!!!!!

The dream is not going away.

How long will it be?

Another 20 years?

Maybe?

I'll probably still be posting on these forums then too......endlessly whining for my............

GALAXIES AT WAR!!!!!!

   

Rod O'neal

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Re: SFC IV: Galaxies at War - SFB
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2003, 12:47:07 am »
I like the idea of a fan base created "GAW". I believe that a commercial version, more than likely by Taldren, will eventually happen. (I really do!) As long as we keep asking for it. (and asking for it, and asking for it...) I don't know if I can stand waiting that long though? I really doubt though that we fans could pull off GAW from scratch. Even with a game engine like Homeworld to work with. The SFB ruleset for the Andros and Tholians is really severely whacked. Who knows though? We'll have to see what people do with it, now that it's available.
     

Towelie

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Re: SFC IV: Galaxies at War - SFB
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2003, 09:24:14 pm »
Quote:

To be more specific, I thought we could find a "good" game engine (donations are appreciated).  We have plenty of modelers that would be willing to create ships.  There's a bunch of mission scriptors already familiar with scenario building.

Seriously - Though I have never put together this large of a project, I think it could be done.

Software projects are known to take years - except Battlecruiser 3000AD, which took over a decade...  

And yes, the licensing issues.  I know, I know.  That's why it will have to remain anonymous and - of course, we wouldn't make a dime (free software?)


Okay, so, back to square one.  Designers, programmers, scriptors, modelers, QA, and lawyers (blech!).

Who else is required?


Po~

     




  Wonder how much Taldren would sell a blank game engine for. Imagine if there was a blank game engine that could be set up with options from SFC2,OP and SFC3. So you could enable what features you wanted and didn't want. Then let the players add the mods and setup servers. You would have a virtually unlimited configurations.  

Potemkin

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Re: SFC IV: Galaxies at War - SFB
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2003, 10:35:23 pm »
Now we're talk'in.

It is a good question - can we use Homeworld?  Can we get a stripped down version of the SFC engine?  What other options are there?

What does Taldren say?

Po~  

Potemkin

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SFB Rules
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2003, 10:37:52 pm »
Hey - whose rules are whacked!?!?!

 
Po~