Topic: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???  (Read 5737 times)

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Bernard Guignard

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Re: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2003, 10:39:27 am »
yes you are correct the last drawing is from ships of the starfleet.  

CptSavage

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Re: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2003, 12:10:05 pm »
The Stress Puppy made that one already, DOn't ask where I it is. I dun remember.  

Fire Blade

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Re: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2003, 12:13:35 pm »
Yeah What he said ive got it but a new version is always welcombe

Atrahasis

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Re: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2003, 12:26:48 pm »
No, the one by Stress and Anduril is different form this one. Stres and Anduril's ship is more akin to the SoSF version, but the one at the start of this thread is an even more earlier version, of which only a few paintings were done......I call it the "back of the Marvel comic book Enterprise".  

Azel

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Re: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2003, 02:05:20 pm »
You are Right Atra!!!
Thanks for pointing that out.
When that painting/poster was produced, Paramount had already had the Enterprise as a Transitional project...they had already turned down (The Awesomely radical) Ralph McQuarry Designs(there where countless sketches and 2 more finalized models that are  Canon ships as they where seen in ST3 and various TNG reckage shots)...and Then they Had went back to Matt Jefferies to design this and other shapes...then they went to Andy Probert to finalize the designs...I think

Damn talk about alot of Variants on the theme...lol  

TheStressPuppy

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Re: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2003, 08:14:53 pm »
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No, the one by Stress and Anduril is different form this one. Stres and Anduril's ship is more akin to the SoSF version, but the one at the start of this thread is an even more earlier version, of which only a few paintings were done......I call it the "back of the Marvel comic book Enterprise".  




Anduril and I did ours according to those very blue prints from the book "phase II the lost series" you posted, and the Incomplete Phase 2 series studio model. Also the bridge displays from ST:TWOK show the Enterprise in its "Phase 2" configuration, but i didnt see some of the later images, and there wasnt much else to go on for reference so we "filled in the gaps". i put some things on there that probobly aint supposed to be there, and what not, and took some artistic licence with others. like the texture scheme as you can see from the screenshot. this model was made in 2001, maybe its time to update it    
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starforce2

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Re: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2003, 08:51:41 pm »
wow. where's this model at?

Desty_Nova

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Re: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???
« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2003, 08:56:34 pm »
I've got a copy of it. I can send it to you.  

Azel

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Re: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???
« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2003, 08:58:37 pm »
Yeah Stresspuppy very cool I already had that one...It matches closer to th  SoSF version very cool...But its not this ship  

TheStressPuppy

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Re: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???
« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2003, 09:15:35 pm »
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Yeah Stresspuppy very cool I already had that one...It matches closer to th  SoSF version very cool...But its not this ship  




I know, Just pointing out that we tried to make the "studio" version of the phase 2, or at least something as close to it as possible with our limited resources  Other mesh is looking good so far

Click the links in my sig if you want mine and andurils version  

DonKarnage

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Re: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???
« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2003, 09:54:50 pm »
 



here one mod closer tho what your looking for


http://www.nightsoftware.com/omega/drs/index2.htm
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I_Mudd

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Re: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???
« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2003, 05:58:10 am »
Hey all, just thought I'd post another WIP shot, if anyone's still interested ...  

 

Thanks to Bernard G. for the extra reference pics in my email and for all the ones from various folks here in this thread.

Almost ready for texturing! I hope I have time this weekend, (as once again, work rears it's unforgiving head.)  

I_Mudd.  

Azel

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Re: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2003, 08:39:32 am »
Always Interested my man

She is looking amazingly great!!!  
 don't forget the clipped pylons and possibly make the ventral saucer Hump alittle smaller about 10-15%
Thanks man!!!  

sandman69247

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Re: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???
« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2003, 08:46:27 am »
Yeah, what he said!

Hey, you think it would be possible to do a little tutorial on how to make the TMP nacelles? I try, but they always look bad...like my little friend here, I'm hitting a wall on thosethings.

And hey, you are not allowed to use language like that in here. (the word work )

 

Kaenyne

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Re: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???
« Reply #34 on: October 31, 2003, 09:46:34 am »
Wow! She looks amazing already, I_Mudd!

I'm happy to see others are as enthusiastic about Connie variants as I am!

 

I_Mudd

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Re: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???
« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2003, 10:53:03 pm »
I'm my own worst critic, which is why I don't normally mess with WIP posts. Usually, there's very little anyone can mention that I haven't agonized over, ( I'm as nitpicky and anal as a Star Trek fan can come, but sometimes you just got to let it go ... ) but all feedback is always welcome.

Having said that, I really hated the last two pics I posted. The model just wasn't matching the posted and emailed pics close enough. So many little inconsistancies from picture to picture were driving me nuts, such as the artistic license the artist of the paintings took with foreshortening. This project has been a good thing for me thus far, in making me call closer attention to details and finding the best compromises of visions to produce a satisfactory model.

I also feel I'm slightly out of my comfort zone of TOS. I dig the TMP style, don't get me wrong, I simply prefer the classic look of the original series. This particular ship definately bridges the gap, IMHO.

 

I'm much happier with this third new mesh. It seems to be the harmonious balance  of all the aforementioned pics. She really developed a look of her own as I tried to match up to the references, rather than going on based on what I thought she should look like. I now feel ready to texture this mesh, although I may not be able to dedicate time for this until mid-week.

I_Mudd.

   

Azel

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Re: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???
« Reply #36 on: November 01, 2003, 11:22:31 pm »
  very impressive take on this desin thus far man
   

Desty_Nova

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Re: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???
« Reply #37 on: November 02, 2003, 08:08:21 am »
It's coming along really well. There's just one thing that doesn't quite look right to me: the engineering hull looks a bit short and stubby. Athough I suspect you may have done that to make it match the painting as closely as possible when viewed fromm that angle. Am I right? Anyway regardless it's lookin totally rad. Keep up the good work.  

I_Mudd

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Re: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???
« Reply #38 on: November 02, 2003, 08:39:18 am »
You hit it right on the nose, Desty.
But keep in mind - angles, plural. I have several pics not posted here of the same ship. As I said before, this was the best compromise of all the pics at my disposal ( again, Thanks Azel and Bernard! BIG help.).

Glad ya like her; look for her sometime next week for DL.

I_Mudd.  

DonKarnage

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Re: ST: PHASE 2 Variant...Has anyone Done This ship???
« Reply #39 on: November 02, 2003, 09:14:08 am »
the segondary hull seem shorter and kinda bump.

so when will it be ready?