Topic: Ptolemy and Keppler stats.......lots of very cool INFO

[Atrahasis]

Thanks to Rogue and Bernard who mailed in all the very useful info I used to assemble these SFC specs.........now we can all have the Battle Pod, Assault Transport Pod, Carrier Pod, Battle Carrier Pod, and Light Battle Pod in the game if we just spec them in. Isn't it curious how these great Tug / Pods were not included in SFC? The Transport Tug, however, was included in the basic boxed edition of SFB.

USS PTOLEMY FLEET TUG, 0-2 containers
***Ship Data***USE FREIGHTER or NCL SSD
Designation: F-TT

Class Type: FREIGHTER
Hull: F
BPV: ???
First Year: (SFC OP) -39
Last Year: (SFC OP) 12
Base class: none

R/L warp: 15
Impulse: 4
APR: 1
Battery: 2
Bridge: 4
Lab: 4
Transporters: 2
Tractors: 2
Size class: 3 (for 0-2 containers)
Turn Mode: (D for 0-1 containers, E for 2 containers)
Move cost: (.67 for 0 containers, 1 for 1 container, 1.5 for 2 containers)
Acceleration: 10
HET: 1
HET Breakdown: 2
Explosion: 13
Sensors: 6
Scanners: 6
Dam Con: 6
Probes: 2
Shields: 20/20/20/20

Fwd hull: 12
Aft hull: N/A
Cargo: (0 for 0 containers, 32 for 1 container, 64 for 2 containers)
Excess dam: 6
Bay size: 2
Launch rate: 1
Shuttle Base: 2
Max: 2
Crew reg: 22
Min: 4
Marines base: 2
Max: 2

Weapons:

hp 11 = 2 X Ph1 FH
hp 13 = 1 X Ph1 RAL
hp 12 = 1 X Ph1 RAR

***END OF DATA***

USS PTOLEMY BATTLE TUG, 1 CONTAINER
Note: This is a support ship but capable of delivering quite a punch. Think of it as an Early-Era Battlecruiser but not as maneuverable. The large spread of photon torpedoes can give good support fire, but the Tug itself should not get in too close to fire them.
***Ship Data***USE FREIGHTER or NCL SSD
Designation: F-BT

Class Type: FREIGHTER
Hull: F
BPV: ???
First Year: (SFC OP) -8
Last Year: (SFC OP) 12
Base class: Basic Tug (F-TT)

R/L warp: 15
Impulse: 6
APR: 12
Battery: 6
Bridge: 8
Lab: 4
Transporters: 4
Tractors: 4
Size class: 2
Turn Mode: E
Move cost: 1.5
Acceleration: 10
HET: 1
HET Breakdown: 2
Explosion: 20
Sensors: 7
Scanners: 7
Dam Con: 8
Probes: 2
Shields: 28/28/28/28

Fwd hull: 12
Aft hull: 10
Cargo: 0
Excess dam: 8
Bay size: 6
Launch rate: 2
Shuttle Base: 4
Max: 6
Crew reg: 50
Min: 4
Marines base: 5
Max: 10

Weapons:

hp 11 = 2 X Ph1 FH
hp 13 = 1 X Ph1 RAL
hp 12 = 1 X Ph1 RAR
hp 9 = 4 X Ph1 ALL

hp 7 = 3 X Photon FWD
hp 8 = 3 X Photon FWD

***END OF DATA***

USS KEPPLER FLEET TUG, ("+" refit of Ptolemy after 2275), 0-2 containers
***Ship Data***USE FREIGHTER or NCL SSD
Designation: F-TT+

Everything the same as the Ptolemy, except start year is 12 and end year is 32, and add the following systems and weapons, which are on the hull of the ship itself and not anywhere on the containers:

Warp Engines: 18 each

Shields: 24 all around for 0 containers, 30 all around for 1-2 containers

2 X Ph-1, RS, at HP 12
2 X Ph-1, LS, at HP 13

1 X Ph-3, RS, at HP 14
1 X Ph-3, LS, at HP 15

1 X ADD 6, 1 reload, at HP 1

1 X Drone G, 2 reloads, at HP 2

***END OF DATA***

USS KEPPLER DEUTERIUM TANKER
***Ship Data***USE FREIGHTER or NCL SSD
Designation: F-DT

Everything the same as the above basic Keppler configuration with 1 container, except adjust explosion value to 100. Start year is 12 and end year is 32. Shields 24 all around.

***END OF DATA***

USS KEPPLER BATTLE TUG, ("+" refit of Ptolemy Battle Tug after 2275), 1 CONTAINER
Note: This is the same Battle Tug as the Ptolemy but with a refit, add the following:
***Ship Data***USE FREIGHTER or NCL SSD
Designation: F-BT+

Warp engines: 18 points each

Shields: 30 all around

Change the 12 APR points into 12 CENTER WARP points.

2 X Ph-1, RS, at HP 12
2 X Ph-1, LS, at HP 13

1 X Ph-3, RS, at HP 14
1 X Ph-3, LS, at HP 15
2 X Ph-3, ALL, at HP 16

1 X ADD 6, 1 reload, at HP 1 (on the ship)

1 X Drone G, 2 reloads, at HP 2 (on the ship)

***END OF DATA***

USS KEPPLER ASSAULT TRANSPORT, 1 CONTAINER
Note: This powerful support ship carries marines, shuttles, fighters, drones, ADD, everything you need for a planetary assault and space-control. The drawback is it's not a fighting ship by itself and is vulnerable. However, it can defend against drones and fighters because of its large arsenal of ADD and Phaser-G's.
***Ship Data***USE FREIGHTER or NCL SSD
Designation: F-LTV

Class Type: FREIGHTER
Hull: F
BPV: ???
First Year: (SFC OP) 14
Last Year: (SFC OP) 32
Base class: Keppler (F-TT+)

R/L warp: 18
Impulse: 6
APR: 4
Battery: 2
Bridge: 6
Lab: 2
Transporters: 2
Tractors: 6
Size class: 2
Turn Mode: E
Move cost: 1.5
Acceleration: 10
HET: 1
HET Breakdown: 2
Explosion: 20
Sensors: 7
Scanners: 7
Dam Con: 7
Probes: 2
Shields: 30/30/30/30

Fwd hull: 12
Aft hull: 0
Cargo: 16
Excess dam: 7
Bay size: 6
Launch rate: 2
Shuttle Base: 6
Max: 12
Crew reg: 46
Min: 4
Deck Crew: 4
Marines base: 9
Max: 18

Fighters: 4 X fighter of your choice, in each of 2 bays

Weapons:

hp 11 = 2 X Ph1 FH
hp 13 = 2 X Ph1 LS
hp 12 = 2 X Ph1 RS

HP 14 = 1 X Ph-3 RS
HP 15 = 1 X Ph-3 LS

HP 16 = 2 X Ph-G, ALL

1 X ADD 6, 1 reload, at HP 1
2 X ADD 6, 1 reload, at HP 9

1 X Drone G, 2 reloads, at HP 2
2 X Drone G, 2 reloads, at HP 8

***END OF DATA***

USS KEPPLER CARRIER TUG, 1 CONTAINER
Note: The Carrier Tug brings fighters with it, but is not meant to fight alongside them. Real Class-I warships had better be in the area to go in with the fighters, while the Carrier Tug stays in the rear.
***Ship Data***USE FREIGHTER or NCL SSD
Designation: F-CVT

Class Type: FREIGHTER
Hull: F
BPV: ???
First Year: (SFC OP) 14
Last Year: (SFC OP) 32
Base class: Keppler (F-TT+)

R/L warp: 18
Impulse: 6
APR: 5
Battery: 4
Bridge: 6
Lab: 4
Transporters: 2
Tractors: 10
Size class: 2
Turn Mode: E
Move cost: 1.5
Acceleration: 10
HET: 1
HET Breakdown: 2
Explosion: 20
Sensors: 8
Scanners: 8
Dam Con: 8
Probes: 2
Shields: 30/30/30/30

Fwd hull: 12
Aft hull: 2
Cargo: 0
Excess dam: 8
Bay size: 4
Launch rate: 2
Shuttle Base: 2
Max: 4
Crew reg: 46
Min: 4
Deck Crew: 4
Marines base: 5
Max: 10

Fighters: 4 X fighter of your choice, in each of 4 bays

Weapons:

hp 11 = 2 X Ph1 FH
hp 13 = 2 X Ph1 LS
hp 12 = 2 X Ph1 RS

HP 14 = 1 X Ph-3 RS
HP 15 = 1 X Ph-3 LS

HP 16 = 4 X Ph-G, ALL

1 X ADD 6, 1 reload, at HP 1
2 X ADD 6, 1 reload, at HP 9

1 X Drone G, 2 reloads, at HP 2
2 X Drone G, 2 reloads, at HP 8

***END OF DATA***

USS KEPPLER BATTLE CARRIER TUG, 1 CONTAINER
Note: The Battle carrier Tug is about as nasty as a Tug can get. It can actually go into battle with its fighters, although it cannot move that well or fast. But whatever stands in its way will likely quickly get cut down by the fighters and the large spread of photon torpedoes it carries.
***Ship Data***USE FREIGHTER or NCL SSD
Designation: F-BTV

Class Type: FREIGHTER
Hull: F
BPV: ???
First Year: (SFC OP) 19
Last Year: (SFC OP) 32
Base class: Keppler (F-TT+)

R/L warp: 18
Center Warp: 12
Impulse: 6
APR: 1
Battery: 6
Bridge: 10
Lab: 4
Transporters: 4
Tractors: 8
Size class: 2
Turn Mode: E
Move cost: 1.5
Acceleration: 10
HET: 1
HET Breakdown: 2
Explosion: 20
Sensors: 8
Scanners: 8
Dam Con: 9
Probes: 2
Shields: 34/34/34/34

Fwd hull: 12
Aft hull: 10
Cargo: 12
Excess dam: 9
Bay size: 6
Launch rate: 2
Shuttle Base: 4
Max: 6
Crew reg: 66
Min: 4
Deck Crew: 4
Marines base: 7
Max: 14

Fighters: 3 X fighter of your choice, in each of 4 bays

Weapons:

hp 11 = 2 X Ph1 FH
hp 13 = 2 X Ph1 LS
hp 12 = 2 X Ph1 RS

HP 14 = 1 X Ph-3 RS
HP 15 = 1 X Ph-3 LS

HP 9 = 4 X Ph-1, FX

HP 7 = 3 X Photon, FA
HP 8 = 3 X Photon, FA

HP 16 = 2 X Ph-G, RX

3 X ADD 6, 1 reload, at HP 1

3 X Drone G, 2 reloads, at HP 2

***END OF DATA***

USS KEPPLER LIGHT BATTLE POD, 1 CONTAINER
Note: A Battle Pod, but smaller and more maneuverable.
***Ship Data***USE FREIGHTER or NCL SSD
Designation: F-LBT

Class Type: FREIGHTER
Hull: F
BPV: ???
First Year: (SFC OP) 21
Last Year: (SFC OP) 32
Base class: Keppler (F-TT+)

R/L warp: 18
Center Warp: 8
Impulse: 6
APR: 2
Battery: 4
Bridge: 7
Lab: 2
Transporters: 3
Tractors: 3
Size class: 3
Turn Mode: D
Move cost: 1.25
Acceleration: 10
HET: 1
HET Breakdown: 2
Explosion: 20
Sensors: 7
Scanners: 7
Dam Con: 7
Probes: 2
Shields: 30/30/30/30

Fwd hull: 12
Aft hull: 5
Cargo: 16
Excess dam: 7
Bay size: 6
Launch rate: 2
Shuttle Base: 3
Max: 5
Crew reg: 48
Min: 4
Deck Crew: 0
Marines base: 7
Max: 14

Weapons:

hp 11 = 2 X Ph1 FH
hp 13 = 2 X Ph1 LS
hp 12 = 2 X Ph1 RS

HP 14 = 1 X Ph-3 RS
HP 15 = 1 X Ph-3 LS

HP 9 = 2 X Ph-1, ALL

HP 7 = 2 X Photon, FA
HP 8 = 2 X Photon, FA

HP 16 = 2 X Ph-3, ALL

3 X ADD 6, 1 reload, at HP 1

3 X Drone G, 2 reloads, at HP 2

***END OF DATA***



 

[Desty_Nova]

Do you plan on doing Light Tactical Transports?

[Klingon Fanatic]

Atrahasis,

I'd love to have your TMP Shiplist... Maybe Taldren will grant your request on L and R arcs.

Always good information from you.

Thanks.

KF

[I_Mudd]

hmm. There's an idea to expand upon. Modified shiplists for download. Not like it hasn't been done before, but what if it were for a specific set of models, such as your Federation fleet?  Maybe including exported shiplist files in the zip files...(I know, been tried before waaay back when...I don't remember why that never became a standard though...) Haven't really thought it out yet, just came to me and I posted, but it could lead to interesting developments/projects. Maybe even a "Dominion of Modders" sort of revival...

just rambling,

I_Mudd.

[Atrahasis]

Quote:
Atrahasis,

I'd love to have your TMP Shiplist... Maybe Taldren will grant your request on L and R arcs.

Always good information from you.

Thanks.

KF  

Word is, I will be "pleasantly surprised" regarding my request for the L and R arcs. I wasn't able to squeeze any more out than that.

[Atrahasis]

I will do a modified shiplist for my models that peple can download, but only if they fix the L and R arc situation first, otherwise there's less point to it.  

[Atrahasis]

I just played the Battle Tug in the Early Era......my goodness, how satisfying that was to rip apart a Klingon frigate with those 6-fed torps on overload, on the first salvo.

PS These battle tugs should be played as combat ships, so instead of designating them "frieghter" you may want to designate them as CL. Don't forget to change your strings files to inlcude the tug types, like Transport Tug, Battle Tug, etc.  

[Rogue]

Quote:
I just played the Battle Tug in the Early Era......my goodness, how satisfying that was to rip apart a Klingon frigate with those 6-fed torps on overload, on the first salvo.

   

Oh no... not to fall away so quickly. I pasted and copied these specifications upon posting... Because tugs are fun! The Fed Battle tug makes for a wonderful fire support platform and serves as a poor mans dreadnought. I appreciate the effort to convert them to SFC specs and post them on this forum. With the Ptoemy and Keppler pulling freighter duty convoy raids just got more challenging. And the idea about deuterium freighters having high explosive value... brilliant. I have that on the agenda to be implemented. Thanks Atra.  

[Atrahasis]

The Tugs do add a new dimension especially to the Early Era where ship types are somewhat sparse. If playng the Feds, one might even create two seperate Stats for each variant, in order to label one as "F" so it shows up in covoy missions, and the other as "CL" so that you can pick it in drydock and add it to your fleet....or have it potentially show up as an ally in a patrol mission.  

They make great defensive ships as well.......10 tractors and all those phasers and shuttles means drones will NOT get through.

[Atrahasis]

Thanks to Bernard who copied the needed pages from the Tech Manual and sent them to me:

For the Ptolemy Transport Tug and Battle Tug:

|F-TT|3801 Ptolemy
||3802 Al Rashid
||3803 Anaxagoras
||3804 Anaximander
||3805 Aristarchus
||3806 Ibn Daud
||3807 Eratosthenes
||3808 Galilei
||3809 Hipparchus
||3810 Ulugh Beg
||3811 Philolaus
||3812 Pythagoras
||3813 Thales
||3814 Hevelius
||3815 Copernicus

|F-BT|3801 Ptolemy
||3802 Al Rashid
||3803 Anaxagoras
||3804 Anaximander
||3805 Aristarchus
||3806 Ibn Daud
||3807 Eratosthenes
||3808 Galilei
||3809 Hipparchus
||3810 Ulugh Beg
||3811 Philolaus
||3812 Pythagoras
||3813 Thales
||3814 Hevelius
||3815 Copernicus

For the Keppler series of ships:

|F-TT+|3816 Keppler
||3817 Ambartsumian
||3818 Flamarion
||3819 Schiaparelli
||3820 Deslandres
||3821 Brahe
||3822 Newton
||3823 Riccioli
||3824 Cassini
||3825 Donati
||3826 Kidinnu
||3827 Piazzi
||3828 Leverrier
||3829 Luyten
||3830 Messier

|F-DT|3816 Keppler
||3817 Ambartsumian
||3818 Flamarion
||3819 Schiaparelli
||3820 Deslandres
||3821 Brahe
||3822 Newton
||3823 Riccioli
||3824 Cassini
||3825 Donati
||3826 Kidinnu
||3827 Piazzi
||3828 Leverrier
||3829 Luyten
||3830 Messier

|F-BT+|3816 Keppler
||3817 Ambartsumian
||3818 Flamarion
||3819 Schiaparelli
||3820 Deslandres
||3821 Brahe
||3822 Newton
||3823 Riccioli
||3824 Cassini
||3825 Donati
||3826 Kidinnu
||3827 Piazzi
||3828 Leverrier
||3829 Luyten
||3830 Messier

|F-LTV|3816 Keppler
||3817 Ambartsumian
||3818 Flamarion
||3819 Schiaparelli
||3820 Deslandres
||3821 Brahe
||3822 Newton
||3823 Riccioli
||3824 Cassini
||3825 Donati
||3826 Kidinnu
||3827 Piazzi
||3828 Leverrier
||3829 Luyten
||3830 Messier

|F-CVT|3816 Keppler
||3817 Ambartsumian
||3818 Flamarion
||3819 Schiaparelli
||3820 Deslandres
||3821 Brahe
||3822 Newton
||3823 Riccioli
||3824 Cassini
||3825 Donati
||3826 Kidinnu
||3827 Piazzi
||3828 Leverrier
||3829 Luyten
||3830 Messier

|F-BTV|3816 Keppler
||3817 Ambartsumian
||3818 Flamarion
||3819 Schiaparelli
||3820 Deslandres
||3821 Brahe
||3822 Newton
||3823 Riccioli
||3824 Cassini
||3825 Donati
||3826 Kidinnu
||3827 Piazzi
||3828 Leverrier
||3829 Luyten
||3830 Messier

|F-LBT|3816 Keppler
||3817 Ambartsumian
||3818 Flamarion
||3819 Schiaparelli
||3820 Deslandres
||3821 Brahe
||3822 Newton
||3823 Riccioli
||3824 Cassini
||3825 Donati
||3826 Kidinnu
||3827 Piazzi
||3828 Leverrier
||3829 Luyten
||3830 Messier

Copy and paste these into your shipnames.txt file but make sure the class/type designations match up with those that you are using in your shiplist.  

[Atrahasis]

come to my site to check out the shipname lists I've done for ALL the freighters I've done, the DY500, Huron, Sherman. Lot sof canon names, you might recognize a few. Slip them into your shiplist for an authentic experience.  

[Atrahasis]

I now know why they didn't include the Battle Tug in SFC...........because it kicks too much ass! For less than 1500 prstige points you can buy yourself one of these, and you won't want to fly anything else. Six photons, 8 phaser-I's, all that power..........top speed is only 20, but you learn to cope. All those shuttles too. All those hitpoints. It's better than any heavy cruiser on the market, at least from the Early to Late era.

You can assalt bases and planets quirte easily with those 6 torps.....you just sit back at range 20, out of range of the Phaser-4's for the most part, and set torps to proximity and eventually you'll wear the base or planet down.  Then you creep in with regular torps, and then eventually with overloaded torps, and then the show is over.......dead base.

It also has no problems completing that "Surprise Reversed" mission, it'll kill the entire lot of enemy ships evry time.  

It's also great for convoy raids and escort missions.

Is there anything it can't do?

[Rogue]

Quote:
I now know why they didn't include the Battle Tug in SFC...........because it kicks too much ass! ...

Is there anything it can't do?  

With 8 overloaded photons you CAN make Julian fries!   That's why I advocate a freighter acceleration curve of about 5. When tugs are unrestricted get used to tug combat because the game chooses them excessively during campaign play. And if you think the Fed tug is a hand full try the Klingon BT with the K refit. That's eight disruptors, six B racks, seven Ph 1,  ten Ph3 and a bad attitude. The Kzinti battle tug is a near carbon copy of that except up the Ph 3 count to 14! I wished there was a way to direct the game to use tugs in a support mode but I don't see a way to do that. I tend to think tugs are for fire support and planetary monitor presence. Never the less... tug combat is fun.