Topic: NO_CD patches - a faux pas? (Read 3997 times)

zama666 · « **on:** October 15, 2003, 01:15:44 pm »

If I asked for a SFC no_cd patch - is that a giant faux pas (mistake)?

I have the original game and serial number. My DVD/CD rom is flaky and makes a lot of noise. That is why I want to just allow it to execute without dealing with the hassle of my DVD drive not recognizing it, or telling me nothing is in the drive, when it is. Then when it winds up, it makes a lovely whining noise for about 10 minutes, very irritating.

I realize you need no_cd patches for verisions. I want to use the beta patch to fix it up and find a no_cd patch.

Is requesting this a problem? Does a no_cd patch exist?

Thanks,

Z

VelvetAcidChrist · « **Reply #1 on:** October 15, 2003, 02:07:33 pm »

there is a sfc1 no cd crack and also a sfc3 no cd crack,but dont ask me for url s since i got mine from buddies

3dot14 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 15, 2003, 03:50:23 pm »

In stead of that, Might I humbly recommend a Virtual CD (i.e. runs cd image files of hard drive) program?

Cleaven · « **Reply #3 on:** October 15, 2003, 04:44:28 pm »

But more importantly OP doesn't need the CD in the drive. Clearly superior gaming.

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #4 on:** October 15, 2003, 05:43:32 pm »

Trouble with a no_cd crack is that you cant play online

And the game is no fun then

Alidar Jarok · « **Reply #5 on:** October 15, 2003, 08:39:41 pm »

I think the real trouble is it is illegal. But I understand your reasoning.

Its a shame I can't help you even if I knew of one.

ThomasCovenant · « **Reply #6 on:** October 16, 2003, 11:40:33 am »

Well, i dont know if it's illegal to use nocd patches for your GAME, but as long as it's your COPY I don't think there is anyone in the WORLD who should object. After all, it's not like we're dealing with a huge DOT COM or something.

Aquaman · « **Reply #7 on:** October 16, 2003, 12:09:34 pm »

Take a look at gamecopyworld.com

Certainly not condoning piracy - just answering the question.
The SFC1 and SFC3 NO-CD patches are there along with almost every other game in the world.

Dash Jones · « **Reply #8 on:** October 16, 2003, 12:55:33 pm »

Quote:

I think the real trouble is it is illegal. But I understand your reasoning.

Its a shame I can't help you even if I knew of one.

NO-Cd copies are legal. Marking out words in your books is also legal. Modifying anything on your computer is legal...as long as you don't share any copyrighted material with others/distribute it, or claim it is your own creation. Distribution of No-CD patches is a little more on shaky ground, much like emulator-roms are. Since you have to have the game to even use a No-CD patch, and from what I hear (don't know personally) many Pirated games do not need the CD to run anyways...it's even more closely related tot he Rom scene, or in some cases more valid than getting a Rom.

In a side note, NO-CD patches actually help sell games, for many who would return games due to the erroneous designs of distributors that include CDprotection, hence preventing (many times over a majority of their customers) legit customers from playing the game who would then return the game...they can play it with the NO-CD item.

One of the smartest moves of SFC 2 was no need to use the CD.

zama666 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 16, 2003, 03:33:13 pm »

Is a no_cd patch requried for the latest patch from Taldren?

Since the patch is so new, I doubt it would be out yet.

Z

Dash Jones · « **Reply #10 on:** October 16, 2003, 09:03:03 pm »

Not that I know of. Taldren has consistently released games that don't need the CD to play (well to an extent. SFC 1 I think it was MP you could play without the CD was it?, SFC2/OP you didn't need the CD, and SFC3 you need the CD for a CD check, but after that, no cd is required in the drive to play).

Contrast that to the Neverwinters Nights item from Atari that played constantly, until Bioware pointed out how it actually was hurting sales and (though atari probably wouldn't claim this, or at least admit it) let Bioware patch it out so the CD wasn't required to play anymore...

Then Atari made a stupid move with thier CD protection on SoU, and now I understand they also did the same with ToEE...some idiots never learn that certain actions only hurt themselves. (There was an article listed on Bioware someplace that explained Atari's foolish notions. The fool who talked to PCgamer said that sales were low on UR2 because of piracy...the idiot...never thought that maybe it was a bland game and word got out about that, as well as other issues. Plus, it didn't do THAT badly from what I understand, just not as good as they were hoping).

Yes, I like bioware...I despise Atari's current ideas. They've been lucky recently with the acquisitions of licenses...but without those, they really aren't that hot on the business of gamemaking side themselves (Take "Enter the Matrix" for example).

Just a personal opinion. Sorry, spouting off, shouldn't do that. Letting my emotions concerning CD-Protection get the better of me. Just hate to say, I'm anti-game piracy, but this CD-protection stuff that they say fights it, in my opinion...hurts only one group, the people that actually pay to buy the game...people like me.

And yes, I'm stupid...I'm going to be buying Hordes of the Underdark when it comes out. You see, even though I dislike Atari right now...I loooove Bioware. Foolish, foolish me.

Glad to be a Taldrenite though. They have always had good sense thus far with their games. Never had trouble with ANY of their games because of CD Protection, even the one that did have it (If I understand correctly. Not sure if it did or didn't, but I hear that it does, but I didn't have any problems at all with it in my CD drive).

Pestalence · « **Reply #11 on:** October 17, 2003, 04:35:57 am »

Umm.. Interplay does have a No-CD fix for Single Player SFC (original) game... however, it is for XP only and you could only get it while they still had call in Customer Support for their games.. now that their call in has terminated, then you have to search for it...

I happen to have Permission to give out the No CD fix from interplay CS.. however in return for me sending it out, I have to send interplay a copy of the top portion of the Diagnostic DirectX log file.. (run Diagdx.exe and after running all tests, then click save to log file.. file is called DxDiag.txt)

you can blank out your system name and registered name out of the report, but interplay is looking for XP build numbers to verify that this is being used for XP machines..

Now for the No-CD crack to work, you have to be patched to 1.03 game version.

Also, to enjoy Online and Single Player games... you will need to first copy your Starfleet.exe game file for use with multiplayer (GSA) unless others are using the No-CD fix, then you can use the Fixed version....

Interplay has told me not to post this file online anywhere and to notify others not to redistribute it. I can not send this file out without first recieving a DXDIAG report showing XP and XP Build numbers for verification.. and I send those directly to Interplay Customer Relations department, which is considering releasing this fix to file planet and other gaming mirrors.. however ETA on this has not been set...

For recommended patching instructions... you can go to my web site at
http://www.nightsoftware.com/effhq/sfc12.html

I also recommend installing the fixed missions and bonus mission pack that I have uploaded which contain all the mission scripts that were fixed after the 1.03 patch plus the official bonus missions from the various expansion disks released so you can experience all the single player missions available...

My web site also has instructions for setting up SFC on XP included in the patching instructions...

Plus, I also have the last official shiplist.txt and the GSA Reg key for playing the latest edition of ships and to play online....

To get the No-CD fix, please follow the instructions on my web site and Email me.. I will then send the fix back by Email (Zipped file attachment) under the agreement that you follow the No-Redistribution or Mirroring agreement that i have with Interplay... so far, i have sent over 120 DX reports to Interplay, which has made them consider release of the No-CD fix publically.. but until then, I must follow their rules...

Thanks for your time.

zama666 · « **Reply #15 on:** October 15, 2003, 01:15:44 pm »

If I asked for a SFC no_cd patch - is that a giant faux pas (mistake)?

I have the original game and serial number. My DVD/CD rom is flaky and makes a lot of noise. That is why I want to just allow it to execute without dealing with the hassle of my DVD drive not recognizing it, or telling me nothing is in the drive, when it is. Then when it winds up, it makes a lovely whining noise for about 10 minutes, very irritating.

I realize you need no_cd patches for verisions. I want to use the beta patch to fix it up and find a no_cd patch.

Is requesting this a problem? Does a no_cd patch exist?

Thanks,

Z

VelvetAcidChrist · « **Reply #16 on:** October 15, 2003, 02:07:33 pm »

there is a sfc1 no cd crack and also a sfc3 no cd crack,but dont ask me for url s since i got mine from buddies

3dot14 · « **Reply #17 on:** October 15, 2003, 03:50:23 pm »

In stead of that, Might I humbly recommend a Virtual CD (i.e. runs cd image files of hard drive) program?

Cleaven · « **Reply #18 on:** October 15, 2003, 04:44:28 pm »

But more importantly OP doesn't need the CD in the drive. Clearly superior gaming.

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #19 on:** October 15, 2003, 05:43:32 pm »

Trouble with a no_cd crack is that you cant play online

And the game is no fun then

Alidar Jarok · « **Reply #20 on:** October 15, 2003, 08:39:41 pm »

I think the real trouble is it is illegal. But I understand your reasoning.

Its a shame I can't help you even if I knew of one.

ThomasCovenant · « **Reply #21 on:** October 16, 2003, 11:40:33 am »

Well, i dont know if it's illegal to use nocd patches for your GAME, but as long as it's your COPY I don't think there is anyone in the WORLD who should object. After all, it's not like we're dealing with a huge DOT COM or something.

Aquaman · « **Reply #22 on:** October 16, 2003, 12:09:34 pm »

Take a look at gamecopyworld.com

Certainly not condoning piracy - just answering the question.
The SFC1 and SFC3 NO-CD patches are there along with almost every other game in the world.

zama666 · « **Reply #24 on:** October 16, 2003, 03:33:13 pm »

Is a no_cd patch requried for the latest patch from Taldren?

Since the patch is so new, I doubt it would be out yet.

Z

Dash Jones · « **Reply #25 on:** October 16, 2003, 09:03:03 pm »

Not that I know of. Taldren has consistently released games that don't need the CD to play (well to an extent. SFC 1 I think it was MP you could play without the CD was it?, SFC2/OP you didn't need the CD, and SFC3 you need the CD for a CD check, but after that, no cd is required in the drive to play).

Contrast that to the Neverwinters Nights item from Atari that played constantly, until Bioware pointed out how it actually was hurting sales and (though atari probably wouldn't claim this, or at least admit it) let Bioware patch it out so the CD wasn't required to play anymore...

Then Atari made a stupid move with thier CD protection on SoU, and now I understand they also did the same with ToEE...some idiots never learn that certain actions only hurt themselves. (There was an article listed on Bioware someplace that explained Atari's foolish notions. The fool who talked to PCgamer said that sales were low on UR2 because of piracy...the idiot...never thought that maybe it was a bland game and word got out about that, as well as other issues. Plus, it didn't do THAT badly from what I understand, just not as good as they were hoping).

Yes, I like bioware...I despise Atari's current ideas. They've been lucky recently with the acquisitions of licenses...but without those, they really aren't that hot on the business of gamemaking side themselves (Take "Enter the Matrix" for example).

Just a personal opinion. Sorry, spouting off, shouldn't do that. Letting my emotions concerning CD-Protection get the better of me. Just hate to say, I'm anti-game piracy, but this CD-protection stuff that they say fights it, in my opinion...hurts only one group, the people that actually pay to buy the game...people like me.

And yes, I'm stupid...I'm going to be buying Hordes of the Underdark when it comes out. You see, even though I dislike Atari right now...I loooove Bioware. Foolish, foolish me.

Glad to be a Taldrenite though. They have always had good sense thus far with their games. Never had trouble with ANY of their games because of CD Protection, even the one that did have it (If I understand correctly. Not sure if it did or didn't, but I hear that it does, but I didn't have any problems at all with it in my CD drive).

Pestalence · « **Reply #26 on:** October 17, 2003, 04:35:57 am »

Umm.. Interplay does have a No-CD fix for Single Player SFC (original) game... however, it is for XP only and you could only get it while they still had call in Customer Support for their games.. now that their call in has terminated, then you have to search for it...

I happen to have Permission to give out the No CD fix from interplay CS.. however in return for me sending it out, I have to send interplay a copy of the top portion of the Diagnostic DirectX log file.. (run Diagdx.exe and after running all tests, then click save to log file.. file is called DxDiag.txt)

you can blank out your system name and registered name out of the report, but interplay is looking for XP build numbers to verify that this is being used for XP machines..

Now for the No-CD crack to work, you have to be patched to 1.03 game version.

Also, to enjoy Online and Single Player games... you will need to first copy your Starfleet.exe game file for use with multiplayer (GSA) unless others are using the No-CD fix, then you can use the Fixed version....

Interplay has told me not to post this file online anywhere and to notify others not to redistribute it. I can not send this file out without first recieving a DXDIAG report showing XP and XP Build numbers for verification.. and I send those directly to Interplay Customer Relations department, which is considering releasing this fix to file planet and other gaming mirrors.. however ETA on this has not been set...

For recommended patching instructions... you can go to my web site at
http://www.nightsoftware.com/effhq/sfc12.html

I also recommend installing the fixed missions and bonus mission pack that I have uploaded which contain all the mission scripts that were fixed after the 1.03 patch plus the official bonus missions from the various expansion disks released so you can experience all the single player missions available...

My web site also has instructions for setting up SFC on XP included in the patching instructions...

Plus, I also have the last official shiplist.txt and the GSA Reg key for playing the latest edition of ships and to play online....

To get the No-CD fix, please follow the instructions on my web site and Email me.. I will then send the fix back by Email (Zipped file attachment) under the agreement that you follow the No-Redistribution or Mirroring agreement that i have with Interplay... so far, i have sent over 120 DX reports to Interplay, which has made them consider release of the No-CD fix publically.. but until then, I must follow their rules...

Thanks for your time.

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