Topic: SFC Andro and Tholian models (Read 12009 times)

Aldaron · « **Reply #80 on:** October 06, 2003, 07:58:17 pm »

Problem with putting them in is that none of the mechanics for the races are there, although the Thloians would only be missing their webs and the ability to pinwheel (big part of their makeup). The Andromedans are missing the displacement device, PA panels, increased batteries (can be simulated I guess), PA panels stopping all tansporting inside side, transporting SS outside.....etc.

Klingon Fanatic · « **Reply #81 on:** October 06, 2003, 08:44:05 pm »

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Problem with putting them in is that none of the mechanics for the races are there, although the Thloians would only be missing their webs and the ability to pinwheel (big part of their makeup). The Andromedans are missing the displacement device, PA panels, increased batteries (can be simulated I guess), PA panels stopping all tansporting inside side, transporting SS outside.....etc.

These are not insurmountable problems. We may not have the EXACT tools but we can approximate things. Displacement devices can be substituted with Cloaking devices and armor/shields can simulate PA panels. Actual scripted missions can cover some of the missing special effects too (not my area of expertise).

Qapla!

KF

IndyShark · « **Reply #82 on:** October 06, 2003, 08:45:59 pm »

These models are too cool! Can someone post pictures of all of them? I can't wait to see the Tholians!
Thanks

EmeraldEdge · « **Reply #83 on:** October 06, 2003, 08:59:04 pm »

Anyone notice the name on the Mirak pics... Xinti! Sound familiar? Maybe replace the T with a D? Hmmmm.

3dot14 · « **Reply #84 on:** October 06, 2003, 09:03:04 pm »

Excellent!

(on the other hand, I think we can also consider these two more nails in GAW's coffin. I mean if Taldren realistically expect to do GaW in the future, they won't give this away...)

Thanks again dave, we must treasure all we get now.

jualdeaux · « **Reply #86 on:** October 06, 2003, 09:44:16 pm »

I have to say, the models for the Tholian DN, Starbase and fighter are really cool. it would have been interesting to see them in game.

Klingon Fanatic · « **Reply #87 on:** October 06, 2003, 09:45:29 pm »

Every Klingon Academy Style Tholian for SFC I have is now at SFU.

Don't forget P81's TMP Andromedans and DarkMatrix's kitbashes of them at SFU. These will nicley round out the Taldren Andros that weren't made...

Thanks again Taldren staff!

Qapla!

KF

James Formo · « **Reply #88 on:** October 07, 2003, 01:47:42 am »

Sweet models and art. Thanks Dave

DarkMatrix · « **Reply #89 on:** October 07, 2003, 03:15:20 am »

THANKYOU VERY MUCH great to see we getting some other races off you guys you give us the best game in the world to play and mod for a dream come true for alot of us

hope you do more sfc i tell you now you got a Big fanbase ready to buy

DM

starforce2 · « **Reply #90 on:** October 07, 2003, 03:21:57 am »

wow, nice, Love that tholian base.

I_Mudd · « **Reply #92 on:** October 07, 2003, 07:51:39 am »

Hey 3dot14,

Maybe this isn't the end of the dream.

We've always thought we could one day go purchase GAW ... and now, for this game engine, it seems like that possibility is near gone. But, thinking "outside the box" for a moment lead me to wonder about a few things. This is purely speculation.

Erik said once he really wanted to produce GAW. He obviously knows how badly we fans would like - no LOVE - this addition to his game. Just how much work was really done? Models were unexpected, at least by me. Sure, you'd need to test results with something, but any model from the existing game could've been used for that. From a financial standpoint, time = $$$, that would seem right; code first, art last. Maybe I'm wrong ...

Now for the big "What if ...?" part. What if models and production art were not all Erik was willing to make available for the fans? (My jaded and cynical side is really making it hard to make this post seriously, but really, what if?) It's not like I'm ungratefull for what has been released. He didn't have to O.K. anything, but for whatever reason, he did. He has my thanks at the very least. His generosity is greatly apprieciated.

Those max file, he knew, would be converted into ship mods and used. No harm there, can't control what the fans do with them. Now if he were to release other "add-ins", perhaps, with a little community effort and a wink and a nod from Taldren, we would indeed have GAW. No law says he can't give the stuff away if he can't profit financially from it.

Ok,ok...It's all wishful thinking and fairy tales. My jaded and cynical side has come back to control this post. This will never happen, as there is no Easter bunny and no code to add. There are no additional UI's for the extra races and no way to add them anyways. There are no ways to include pinwheeling and webs. The game maps will not support the additional Empires...cartels are just a work around. There is no ...

hmmm ... is hope really that dead on this issue? Have we beaten the horse to glue and now stuck fast ...?

[heavysigh.wav]

This is too frustrating and too depressing. I'm going to go breath a little more life into TOS and finish up a model.

I_Mudd.

Atrahasis · « **Reply #93 on:** October 07, 2003, 08:49:56 am »

Are those Tholian models the exact same ones from Klingon Academy or modified ones or different ones altogether?

Chris Jones · « **Reply #94 on:** October 07, 2003, 12:21:04 pm »

Well isn't this just kool - Thanks Dave and Erik - btw - I'm still reading Eric's book on game development. Can't put it down - read through it twice now..

Time to re-think the TNG Mod for OP with these babies released.

Kudos!!

Sethan · « **Reply #95 on:** October 07, 2003, 02:54:37 pm »

Those are too cool.

Thank you gentlemen.

Captain Krenn · « **Reply #96 on:** October 07, 2003, 04:54:24 pm »

Forgive my ignorance,

but is there a paticular tool you are supposed to view these with?

Captain "without a clue" Krenn

Strafer · « **Reply #97 on:** October 07, 2003, 05:13:11 pm »

ModViewer.

I know FireSoul has it online at http://klingon.stasis.ca under the sources & utils section...

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