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FireSoul

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What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull..
« on: October 02, 2003, 10:54:30 pm »
I was at Montana's with Strafer, the SO and the baby.. and I was drawing on the table diagrams and ideas along the lines of OP+, what could be added.. .. and I was describing captured ships, when I had this interesting revelation..


Historical Background (made up, of course..)
In Y176, A F-CC+ was ambushed along the Romulan neutral zone by multiple warbirds. The battle was absolutely one-sided as the Fed was conned into WW to the wrong weapons, was stripped of all its shields by 2 Envelopping PLaRs and was forced to declare emergency saucer separation to what turned out to be a well-thought out feint which left the secondary hull relatively intact. The still-battle-worthy saucer section was quickly dispatched and the now inactive rear-hull was kept as a prize.

.. but what do you do with still 'good' Federation secondary hull? Well, you replace the saucer portion of course..
.. but with what? .. Why, with .. something that has the size and shape of a Federation saucer, and has impulse only..
.. Like a WB+, which has only impulse engines.




    Romulan Heavy Command Cruiser (Captured Federation Ship):

    Saucer, part of WB+:
    1xPLaR FA
    6 Impulse, 3 APR
    2xph1 FAL, 2xph1 FAR
    2 shuttlebays
    ..etc..

    Secondary Hull:
    2xPLaF FH (FP, where the photon launchers used to be)
    1xPLaD RH (Rear, replaces DroG)
    2x15 Warps, 2 AWR
    2xph1 360
    2xph3 360
    4 shuttlebays
    ..etc..

    Ship has 2 separate Shuttle Bays.
    The SSDs for both ships are in SFB's BASIC Module.



 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



PS. Yes, the model is crappy, but I just wanted to see what it would look like.
Do you like the idea?

-- Luc


Edit: Original title not catchy enough. Stats have been separated into sections that clearly define the WB's and Fed's parts.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2003, 02:00:08 am by FireSoul »
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FireSoul

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Re: What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull..
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2003, 02:01:41 am »
PS:
Looking for comments about story, model, etc..
If it's good enough, it just might be an interesting submission to ADB.
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Soreyes

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Re: What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull..
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2003, 03:56:18 am »
I think your on to somthing here FireSoul. The story is very well thought out.
The only thought I have is that maybe there should be two break away supports, from the WB to the secondary hull. I would think the mass of the WB is abit more then the saucer section?
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Klingon Fanatic

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Re: What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull..
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2003, 05:18:07 am »
This  is a good idea, but I think I'd like it even better if WZ45's connie and War Eagle were kitbashed together...

Qapla!

KF
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**DONOTDELETE**

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Re: What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull..
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2003, 07:33:09 am »
Bonjour FireSoul,

Mon Dieu!!!
Sa c'est magnifique!
Tellement magnifigue!!!,

Vous etes un vrai artiste de la 3d starship modding,


Quote:

PS:
Looking for comments about story, model, etc..
If it's good enough, it just might be an interesting submission to ADB.  




J'aime beaucoup votre Fed/Rom Hybrid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
C'est tellement beau,
 



Salut,
Agent Sloan (aka Don "le Maudis Anglais" )
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by GeneralWolfe »
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FireSoul

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Re: What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull..
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2003, 08:41:15 am »
Quote:

I think your on to somthing here FireSoul. The story is very well thought out.
The only thought I have is that maybe there should be two break away supports, from the WB to the secondary hull. I would think the mass of the WB is abit more then the saucer section?  



I was thinking a double-sized one, myself. It would not only support the weight of the WB+, but the 2xPLaF mountpoints.
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FireSoul

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Re: What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull..
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2003, 08:42:43 am »

I may be a Francophone, but some parts of that French just made me wince.  
Don, speak English to me.  



Quote:

Bonjour FireSoul,

Mon Dieu!!!
Sa c'est magnifique!
Tellement magnifigue!!!,

Vous etes un vrai artiste de la 3d starship modding,


Quote:

PS:
Looking for comments about story, model, etc..
If it's good enough, it just might be an interesting submission to ADB.  




J'aime beaucoup votre Fed/Rom Hybrid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
C'est tellement beau,
 



Salut,
Agent Sloan (aka Don "le Maudis Anglais" )  

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FireSoul

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Re: What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull..
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2003, 08:44:53 am »
Quote:

This  is a good idea, but I think I'd like it even better if WZ45's connie and War Eagle were kitbashed together...
 



Ah? He has both? Ok.. where do I find them? *searches*
You know that I just basically took the Taldren ones, right?
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**DONOTDELETE**

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Re: What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull..
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2003, 08:49:58 am »
LOL!

Sure thing man,
Yep,
I'm an Anglophone, but my English also makes people wince eh!



Quote:


I may be a Francophone, but some parts of that French just made me wince.  
Don, speak English to me.  



Quote:

Bonjour FireSoul,

Mon Dieu!!!
Sa c'est magnifique!
Tellement magnifigue!!!,

Vous etes un vrai artiste de la 3d starship modding,


Quote:

PS:
Looking for comments about story, model, etc..
If it's good enough, it just might be an interesting submission to ADB.  




J'aime beaucoup votre Fed/Rom Hybrid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
C'est tellement beau,
 



Salut,
Agent Sloan (aka Don "le Maudis Anglais" )  

 




I just wanted to say, that I really like your work,
and I think your Fed/Rom Hybrid is one beautiful 3d starship mod,
Please keep up your great work eh,

In my opinion, you're quite talented indeed,
and you've got a good-eye for Hybrids!!!!

Take care, and best wishes,
Agent Sloan (aka Don , who knows eh, perhaps you've paased me on the streets of Ottawa,
just look for "the crazy Anglo" )
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FireSoul

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Re: What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull..
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2003, 09:58:01 am »
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Take care, and best wishes,
Agent Sloan (aka Don , who knows eh, perhaps you've paased me on the streets of Ottawa,
just look for "the crazy Anglo" )  




You mean that tanned Inuit-looking crazy-haired bum that goes around on his old bicycle, wearing a painted surgical mask, whistling shrilling birdcalls all along Bank St.?  
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**DONOTDELETE**

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Re: What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull..
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2003, 10:06:02 am »
LOL!

Close ...
Quote:

Quote:

Take care, and best wishes,
Agent Sloan (aka Don , who knows eh, perhaps you've paased me on the streets of Ottawa,
just look for "the crazy Anglo" )  




You mean that tanned Inuit-looking crazy-haired bum that goes around on his old bicycle, wearing a painted surgical mask, whistling shrilling birdcalls all along Bank St.?    



I'd be his White-Guy "Man-Friday" that he send to the Liquor store,
to get him booze,

Take care,
Don
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Bernard Guignard

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Re: What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull..
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2003, 10:19:59 am »
hi Firesoul
   go to demon renagade studios links are with wz's sig line.  

 
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Dogmatix!

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Re: What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull..
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2003, 12:06:22 pm »
Cool idea, FireSoul.


I like the idea of some of these captured ships making it into our shiplists and model folders.  The added flava is cool...
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Atrahasis

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Re: What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull..
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2003, 12:19:51 pm »
LOL My IKV Hood model has inspired many I see.
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FireSoul

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Re: What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull..
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2003, 01:31:04 pm »
Quote:

Cool idea, FireSoul.


I like the idea of some of these captured ships making it into our shiplists and model folders.  The added flava is cool...  



Just to let you know that I won't be adding this to my OP+..
.. unless it becomes official SFB material.  
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FireSoul

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Re: What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull..
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2003, 01:34:10 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

Cool idea, FireSoul.


I like the idea of some of these captured ships making it into our shiplists and model folders.  The added flava is cool...  



Just to let you know that I won't be adding this to my OP+..
.. unless it becomes official SFB material.    



Yes..
... but remember that I've known about captured ships for a long time, and this one popped up suddenly, in my head, just last night. This is an original creation that I may as well polish up and submit.
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Azel

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Re: What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull..
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2003, 01:39:26 pm »
Firesoul,
This maybe one of the greatest concepts!!!!
I love it.!!!!
Thanks
Hey can you do another one using better models???
And a variant using the whole warbird??? with 2 necks holding the connie hull???  
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Atrahasis

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Re: What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull..
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2003, 02:09:13 pm »
Speaking of captured ships, what about that captured Romulan Bird of Prey-turned-Fed ship that was on the frontpage of newships all those years ago? I always thought that one was neat, if someone has the model maybe I can upgrade it if it needs it.  
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FireSoul

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Re: What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull..
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2003, 02:11:56 pm »
I've just been advised that the WB+ itself, as crappy as it is, as a movement cost of 1. So does the WE, as it happens.

Well.. here's a different idea..
.. what if we made this a DN?
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**DONOTDELETE**

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Re: What if the Romulans captured a Federation Constitution Secondary Hull..
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2003, 02:21:15 pm »
Hello FireSoul,

Here, here!!
bravo ...

Quote:


<snip>
This is an original creation that I may as well polish up and submit.  




This truely is a "FireSoul Original",
You da man who thought it up, when it popped into your head eh,
Way to go man,

BTW,
Food-for-thought,
The Romulan Secret Service Tal'Shar has its own set of starships right?
What if your marvelous creation was NOT a one time caprtured starship,
but what if your Fed/Rom Hybrid was the result of Romulan Spies in the Federation,
who stole Federation Starship designs eh?

That way,
with "the info" in Romulan hands, the Tal'Shar reverse-engineered this Tal'Shar Hybrid?
That way FireSoul, you could make a WHOLE FLEET of Tal'Shar Fed/Rom Hybrids,

You could Fed/Rom 3d mod forever that way could you not eh?

Just a a thought,


Take care,
Agent Sloan
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