Topic: Before Activision Took Over, What Was the Plan for the SFC Series? (Read 10893 times)

Strafer · « **Reply #20 on:** October 01, 2003, 12:47:45 pm »

That would be very cool.

Ex-Taldren, hm? Nice

Jester too.

kiloton · « **Reply #21 on:** October 01, 2003, 01:20:55 pm »

Awesome. Thanks Dave and Jester (Marc?). If you could let some of that art see the light of day we would all appreciate it a great deal.

Thanks!

Ken

Dogmatix! · « **Reply #22 on:** October 01, 2003, 04:46:08 pm »

Quote:

Quote:

When I was hired in January 2000, the plan was to do 2 then 3 with
Andros and Tholians for Interplay.

Many art assets were created for 3.

Thanks,

Dave

Ever get that light, nauseated feeling in your stomach? Truly heartbreaking.

Indeed...

VelvetAcidChrist · « **Reply #23 on:** October 01, 2003, 05:22:47 pm »

well there s always some hope.
lets all just pray,pray and pray even more to gte geaw one day.sfc series shouldnt end with the bad 3rd game....man i gonna play some op now lol

3dot14 · « **Reply #24 on:** October 01, 2003, 06:02:46 pm »

Sigh if Gamespy is reading this thread, they are gonna have a field day.

But please Dave, any of those arts would be much appreciated...

Sethan · « **Reply #25 on:** October 01, 2003, 06:45:20 pm »

I'd love to see the art myself.

The only saving grace for me in the way things have worked out is that if SFC3 had been GaW, I wouldn't have had time to play. At least this way I can tell myself it never came out.

Thanks for the info, Dave & Jester.

Desty_Nova · « **Reply #26 on:** October 01, 2003, 06:58:50 pm »

WHY GOD WHY?!

You were actually making GaW...making my dream come true....

Dammit!!!

Toasty0 · « **Reply #27 on:** October 01, 2003, 07:29:52 pm »

<Toasty0 sneaks into the room and inhales deeply filling his lungs to the fullest extent and SHOUTS>

IT COULD STILL HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<out of breath he now exits the room>

Klingon Fanatic · « **Reply #31 on:** October 02, 2003, 10:34:15 am »

I myself never played SFB. I became a follower of the Galaxies At War movement primarily because of the Klingon Academy Tholians. When I learned about the TRBs in OP and the TMP Andromedans by P81 and later DarkMatrix's kitbashes of them that's really when I felt the call to promote this idea for a SFC2/OP expansion or even a new game entirely. I love the idea that the TMP era Tholians and Andromedans would look different [better IMHO] than the stock SFB designs.

So Mr. Ferrell, let us see some of the proposed artwork for TMP Tholians and Andromedans, please.

KF

Tumulorum Fossor · « **Reply #32 on:** October 02, 2003, 07:36:52 pm »

I KNEW that there was some weird mojo going down between the SFC and KA camps! I've never played KA, but based on the articles I was reading that were previewing the game at the time, so much of the KA game mechanic philosophy seemed to be SFB/C in origin! I couldn't believe at the time that they were going to attach a joystick to an SFB/C type foundation (but I was reading to see if it would work).

And they were paranoid of YOU copying THEM? Sheesh! YOU were the programming team that actually had a blueprint for the game already (SFB)! Ah, well.

I vaguely remember KA being plagued with rather hefty delays in release. I wonder if that had something to do with the change in graphics? Hmm. I HAD thought it was going to have to do with the insane task of trying to balance/reconcile a tactical-based set of decisions (the SFB/C stuff), with the reflex factor (the joystick stuff).

Well, if there is any good news to be had from all this, it is that PERHAPS the SFC2OP engine can be crowbarred into accomodating the Tholians and Andros if the source code ever gets released ("forever" is a LOOONG time).

Interesting stuff. Thanks for the insight!

-TF

Captain KoraH · « **Reply #33 on:** October 04, 2003, 12:05:22 pm »

Some very interesting insight here about how the PC game development industry works. I'd love to see this artwork too. I feel like it's a piece of lost history that Dave and select others have stashed away in a closet somewhere and forgotten about. It would be great to have them see the light of day.

Lieutenant_Q · « **Reply #34 on:** October 04, 2003, 07:43:17 pm »

Let's look on the bright side Korah, With the pending Activision lawsuit, Paramount will surely take the license from them. Paramount will want to get a game out ASAP, Taldren already has the preliminary artwork done for a SFC involving the Tholians and the Andromedeans. Paramount could turn to Taldren and say, here, we need a game done, do your thing, We will decide who will publish your game later, just get cracking on it. I hope that it does happen, Id like to see what Taldren does to bring those races in.

Captain KoraH · « **Reply #35 on:** October 05, 2003, 02:08:12 pm »

If I had a nickel for every time I thought or heard someone say "If only [corporation] would do [X]" around here....

FPF_TraceyG · « **Reply #37 on:** October 05, 2003, 04:43:39 pm »

Hmmmm, I wonder if a certain ex-Taldren employee might be interested in taking up a hobby, say creating an expansion in the form of a patch for SFC:OP that might require the use of this lost artwork. Such a hobby might even be of interest to others that could help.

Jester_OC · « **Reply #38 on:** October 06, 2003, 12:40:57 am »

Unfortunatly we don't OWN the source. Quicksilver owns some of the low level engine stuff (QUILL ~shutter~..) that Interplay had the right to let anyone else use as long as it involved SFC in someway. So if we tried to make a new patch out of the juristiction of Taldren, well five groups could sue us(Cole,Taldren,Quicksilver,Paramount, and Activision). Not something you want to do if you have a wife and kids.

Source code alone is not enough you need Director 5.0 (or is it 6.0) to use Quill(TO MAKE THE UI) (~shutter~ bad memories MAKE IT STOP!) Which I don't have.

Anyway, I think that SFC is dead (sorry folks but is just my opinion) I don't think SFC3 sold real well. I THIINK SFC 1 sold the most then we got smaller and smaller (I always feel SFC was like the Planet of the Apes movies First one had a descent budget and time and the rest the time and money got tighter and tighter). It would be best to write a new game from scratch than try to make a new game on the old source. That would prob. mean making a game people think they can market. Which pushes you toward ACTION games rather than Strat games.

Just My 2 Cents,

Jester (Marc)

p.s. If anyone has any other questions that puzzeled you about SFC develeopment, just ask.

FPF_TraceyG · « **Reply #39 on:** October 06, 2003, 12:56:47 am »

Quicksilver, wasnt that a software company who back in the 90s first attempted to make a computer game from SFB, but went belly up?

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