Topic: What ruins the original Battlestar series for me

[Atrahasis]

.......Richard hatch. He's such a terrible actor! I saw "Greetings from Earth Pt I" and 90% of the time he's actually screaming and blowing a gasket and sometimes even on the verge of tears. Even Dirk Benedict, Starbuck, is a better actor. Thank God for Lorne Greene otherwise the show would be just too painful to watch.  

[VelvetAcidChrist]

well galactica is cult for meand if you dont like the actors i wonder what you say about the plastic puppy cylons lmao.
itzs like it is.....cult.

[Dash Jones]

Wow, I've only really seen the movie, and a few episodes that were shown on TV in the past few years.  I am really hoping to get the series when it is released so I can finally see it all.  Love what I've seen so far.

I'm also hoping on seeing the remake though, I'm not really a hardcore fan, and I'm hoping the ship combat will be waaaay awesome.  Hoping at least.

[Atrahasis]

I hope that the new series is at least watchable to a modern audience, because some of the stuff and situations and acting in the original series just does not cut it today.  

[Stormbringer]

The original series battle special effects we so low budget that they were just laughable. Particularly the missile barrages from the BSG herself. I would have thought they could have spliced something together from military footage. Say a test shot from a SLBM silo edited onto the front end of a long shot from white sands or the cape with the part from the flight having an animated background followed by a test range missile hit on a steel target. Instead they merely scratched and stained the film to produce bright streaks barely distinguishable from the laser effects.  

[starwolf3500]

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The original series battle special effects we so low budget that they were just laughable. Particularly the missile barrages from the BSG herself. I would have thought they could have spliced something together from military footage. Say a test shot from a SLBM silo edited onto the front end of a long shot from white sands or the cape with the part from the flight having an animated background followed by a test range missile hit on a steel target. Instead they merely scratched and stained the film to produce bright streaks barely distinguishable from the laser effects.  

You have to remember what happened to this series.  This series was created right after Star Wars was released in 77.  The same group that did the special effects for Star Wars (ILM) did the initial effects for the 2 hour pilot movie and the first few episodes.  This was the biggest draw for this series.  Remember how ground breaking the effects for Star Wars was in 77.  Unfortunately, there was some kind of scism during 1st year production and ILM pulled out.  Thats why a lot of the effects you see throughout the rest of the series run are repeats of the same shots or seem way low grade.

As for Richard Hatch being a bad actor, well, IT was 1978.  I find as I see some of the older shows I used to like to watch that the acting, plots, ect all seem campy now.  Go back and try and watch an episode of the A team or Starsky and Hutch or Hawaii Five O and see if they don't come off as campy now.

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[**DONOTDELETE**]

Hello Stormbringer,

Yep,
some of the film clips they inserted were low budget,

(i) the Missiles firing from the Pegasus Battlestar as it Kamakazed into two Cylon Basestars,
(ii) the 1970s' vintage missiles being lauched by the "Eastern Alliance",
(iii) the footage of the Apollo bouster section coming off,

Yep,
they were low budget inserts,

Why were they put in?

Simple,
the Old Battlestar Galactica show cost about one million per episode to make,
the show still had very high ratings,
but the TV network was not satisified with the profit , yes profit,
that is was making so it canceled it,


GeneralWolfe

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The original series battle special effects we so low budget that they were just laughable. Particularly the missile barrages from the BSG herself. I would have thought they could have spliced something together from military footage. Say a test shot from a SLBM silo edited onto the front end of a long shot from white sands or the cape with the part from the flight having an animated background followed by a test range missile hit on a steel target. Instead they merely scratched and stained the film to produce bright streaks barely distinguishable from the laser effects.  

[Johanobesus]

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You have to remember what happened to this series.  This series was created right after Star Wars was released in 77.  The same group that did the special effects for Star Wars (ILM) did the initial effects for the 2 hour pilot movie and the first few episodes.  This was the biggest draw for this series.  Remember how ground breaking the effects for Star Wars was in 77.  Unfortunately, there was some kind of scism during 1st year production and ILM pulled out.  Thats why a lot of the effects you see throughout the rest of the series run are repeats of the same shots or seem way low grade.
<S>  

If I remember correctly, Lucas sued ABC because he felt that he should have an exclusive copyright on mythic space epics with space fighter dogfights.  

[Magnum357]

LOL, your kidding?  If this is true about Lucas, he is one pathetic individual.  I think I heard about something similar too about the old Reagan military program called "Star Wars".  I heard he sued the Reagan administration for using a name he clearly invented in his Star Wars movie.  Obviously, the courts ruled in favor of the Administration.

What?  Does lucas think he owns all of Science Fiction or something?

[Atrahasis]

Yes, Lucas sued but didn;t win, his main points of contention being that the Cylon helmets looked a lot like Darth's, and that Apollo and Skylar (Starbuck's original pre-production name) were too much like Solo and Skywalker.  

[Parislord]

 

[FormerDM]

FYI

Oct. 13, 2003: SCI FI airs the Battlestar Galactica Columbus Day Marathon from 9AM-6PM ET/PT.

9:00 AM BATTLESTAR GALACTICA -PT 1
10:00 AM BATTLESTAR GALACTICA -PT 2
11:00 AM BATTLESTAR GALACTICA -PT 3
12:00 PM LOST PLANET OF THE GODS -PT 1
1:00 PM LOST PLANET OF THE GODS -PT 2
2:00 PM THE GUNS ON ICE PLANET ZERO-PT 1
3:00 PM THE GUNS ON ICE PLANET ZERO-PT 2
4:00 PM WAR OF THE GODS-PT 1
5:00 PM WAR OF THE GODS-PT 2  

[Atrahasis]

.......Richard hatch. He's such a terrible actor! I saw "Greetings from Earth Pt I" and 90% of the time he's actually screaming and blowing a gasket and sometimes even on the verge of tears. Even Dirk Benedict, Starbuck, is a better actor. Thank God for Lorne Greene otherwise the show would be just too painful to watch.  

[VelvetAcidChrist]

well galactica is cult for meand if you dont like the actors i wonder what you say about the plastic puppy cylons lmao.
itzs like it is.....cult.

[Dash Jones]

Wow, I've only really seen the movie, and a few episodes that were shown on TV in the past few years.  I am really hoping to get the series when it is released so I can finally see it all.  Love what I've seen so far.

I'm also hoping on seeing the remake though, I'm not really a hardcore fan, and I'm hoping the ship combat will be waaaay awesome.  Hoping at least.

[Atrahasis]

I hope that the new series is at least watchable to a modern audience, because some of the stuff and situations and acting in the original series just does not cut it today.  

[Stormbringer]

The original series battle special effects we so low budget that they were just laughable. Particularly the missile barrages from the BSG herself. I would have thought they could have spliced something together from military footage. Say a test shot from a SLBM silo edited onto the front end of a long shot from white sands or the cape with the part from the flight having an animated background followed by a test range missile hit on a steel target. Instead they merely scratched and stained the film to produce bright streaks barely distinguishable from the laser effects.  

[starwolf3500]

Quote:
The original series battle special effects we so low budget that they were just laughable. Particularly the missile barrages from the BSG herself. I would have thought they could have spliced something together from military footage. Say a test shot from a SLBM silo edited onto the front end of a long shot from white sands or the cape with the part from the flight having an animated background followed by a test range missile hit on a steel target. Instead they merely scratched and stained the film to produce bright streaks barely distinguishable from the laser effects.  

You have to remember what happened to this series.  This series was created right after Star Wars was released in 77.  The same group that did the special effects for Star Wars (ILM) did the initial effects for the 2 hour pilot movie and the first few episodes.  This was the biggest draw for this series.  Remember how ground breaking the effects for Star Wars was in 77.  Unfortunately, there was some kind of scism during 1st year production and ILM pulled out.  Thats why a lot of the effects you see throughout the rest of the series run are repeats of the same shots or seem way low grade.

As for Richard Hatch being a bad actor, well, IT was 1978.  I find as I see some of the older shows I used to like to watch that the acting, plots, ect all seem campy now.  Go back and try and watch an episode of the A team or Starsky and Hutch or Hawaii Five O and see if they don't come off as campy now.

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[**DONOTDELETE**]

Hello Stormbringer,

Yep,
some of the film clips they inserted were low budget,

(i) the Missiles firing from the Pegasus Battlestar as it Kamakazed into two Cylon Basestars,
(ii) the 1970s' vintage missiles being lauched by the "Eastern Alliance",
(iii) the footage of the Apollo bouster section coming off,

Yep,
they were low budget inserts,

Why were they put in?

Simple,
the Old Battlestar Galactica show cost about one million per episode to make,
the show still had very high ratings,
but the TV network was not satisified with the profit , yes profit,
that is was making so it canceled it,


GeneralWolfe

Quote:
The original series battle special effects we so low budget that they were just laughable. Particularly the missile barrages from the BSG herself. I would have thought they could have spliced something together from military footage. Say a test shot from a SLBM silo edited onto the front end of a long shot from white sands or the cape with the part from the flight having an animated background followed by a test range missile hit on a steel target. Instead they merely scratched and stained the film to produce bright streaks barely distinguishable from the laser effects.  

[Johanobesus]

Quote:

You have to remember what happened to this series.  This series was created right after Star Wars was released in 77.  The same group that did the special effects for Star Wars (ILM) did the initial effects for the 2 hour pilot movie and the first few episodes.  This was the biggest draw for this series.  Remember how ground breaking the effects for Star Wars was in 77.  Unfortunately, there was some kind of scism during 1st year production and ILM pulled out.  Thats why a lot of the effects you see throughout the rest of the series run are repeats of the same shots or seem way low grade.
<S>  

If I remember correctly, Lucas sued ABC because he felt that he should have an exclusive copyright on mythic space epics with space fighter dogfights.