Topic: Why wait for activisions blessing....release the patch as another BETA (Read 6658 times)

Vrilly · « **on:** September 27, 2003, 04:22:44 am »

The patch has been sent to activison and from what I hav eread it is in the approval and test process on their part. WHO cares if they blss it or not. Dave Ferrel has approved it so thats good enuf for me and the rest fo the community.

Activision has pulled the games formt he websites. Pulled the servers in the Dynaverse-I hear-I play patched- and are intrenched in a legal struggle that will not end anytime soon sot her eis no guarantee that it will ever be approved int he first place.

We have a beta patch now...why cant we have another one? and if it turns out to be the final one SO be it.............

We dont need their blessing release it...

AND if we do get this final beta patch we can TELL you what the new or unfixed issues are so you CAN FIX it.......

We are tired of this....and are moving on in droves.......

The only thing keeping most of us on are the excellent mods by Korah and Pelican that has a large player base and rabid forum support.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE release the patch NOW

we need good news right now.

KnightVrilly

Cleaven · « **Reply #1 on:** September 27, 2003, 06:49:14 am »

Quote:

We dont need their blessing release it...

AND if we do get this final beta patch we can TELL you what the new or unfixed issues are so you CAN FIX it.......

Alright, I give up. Just how ignorant of copyright (and corporation) law are you?

VelvetAcidChrist · « **Reply #3 on:** September 27, 2003, 07:09:47 am »

simply dont play sfc3,come back to sfc2/op,play some sfc1 as well and u ll be more happy than u re atm.

lornphoenix · « **Reply #6 on:** September 27, 2003, 11:14:16 am »

Vrilly The Only way that will happen is if Someone within Taldren or Activison Leaks a copy... But The would amost useless because very few People would use it.

Alidar Jarok · « **Reply #7 on:** September 27, 2003, 07:56:46 pm »

Maybe Taldren could secretly add a bunch of new BETA Testers

Pestalence · « **Reply #9 on:** September 28, 2003, 10:01:44 pm »

The last Beta that Taldren released without Activision's permission, Activision sent out copright infringement notices within an hour and also threatened lawsuit against Taldren and all the people running mirrors, including 3rd party people who immediately were notified about the Beta Release and mirrored it.. talking about gaming patch sites.... all mirrors came down within 24 hours after release of the Beta due to Activision having all the rights to the game...

now if Activision gave Taldren permission to release a Beta version, or just gave Taldren patching rights, then all would be good, but currently Taldren has their hands tied.. however Activision has stated that once all the bugs are fixed to their satisfaction, then it will get QA'd and released.

just letting you know.

Baker · « **Reply #11 on:** September 28, 2003, 10:34:52 pm »

Hmm is it possible for Taldren to hire a lot of people for Beta testing for free, say like most people who own a copy or would this fall under copyright as well?

Sorry but I'm very ignorant of copyright laws.

Alexander1701 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 28, 2003, 11:33:04 pm »

Well, legally we'd all have to sign a bunch of documents, we'd all be listed as taldren employees, that'll raise some tax issues just to start, also it would be viewed by the gaming world in general as pretty underhanded.

Look, much as it pains us, we really *do* have to wait for activision.

Alexander

Alexander1701 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 30, 2003, 02:13:23 pm »

Oh? Sorry, my mistake. I thought you legally qualified as 'employees' even though you aren't paid. Very well then, the rest is true (the tax concerns being as taldren's employee population booming, so that no longer applies). We'd all have to sign non-disclosure documents (essentially shutting down these forums, really), and it WOULD be seen as rather underhanded to hire a beta tester for each person who owns the game just to circumvent activision. Certainly, if I was an executive at a company like interplay or microsoft's gaming section (coughcoughblack9cough), I'd look down on something like that.

I think our eager beta testers missed that part. He's implying that we declare 'everyone' as beta testers to get around activision.

TalonClaw · « **Reply #16 on:** September 30, 2003, 03:47:19 pm »

Couldn't Taldren have an open beta?

Sartonius · « **Reply #18 on:** October 01, 2003, 02:41:31 am »

I don't want to be too negative here, and I know it's old hat, but this really is putting the wagon before the horse.

This mess wouldn't even be here if the game had been properly beta tested before being sold in stores.

Or the two prior games for that matter. Good grief.

EmeraldEdge · « **Reply #19 on:** October 01, 2003, 02:48:47 am »

The game could very well have been "properly beta tested", that doesn't mean that the bugs that were found were ever fixed though. It could have been tested to hell and back, but the issues found still have to be fixed. That is an issue for the developers and the producers to work out, as far as time to fix vs. acceptable bug levels and need to release project due to overruns, etc.

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