Topic: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.1 (Read 32270 times)

Corbomite · « **Reply #60 on:** October 23, 2003, 09:34:37 am »

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Actually for a truer SFB answer I think you have to go to the text mentioning that the Star Cruiser matches up well against other races BCH's that'd be the CAZ and not the CCZ. the CAZ has 40 power right?? Maybe thats the reason the BCV only has 40 power. It's based off of the CA and not the CC which in SFB was considered a pocket DN

And yes I know this isn't SFB and it doesn't apply here. I'm just a historian trying the give you some information. I'm not saying it's right or it should be this way in sfc cause its like that in sfb. I'm just passing along information for those that may not know it. And no I don't want everything to be just like sfb.

That wouldn't explain the Mirak. Look I know the SFB answer, but combat effectiveness just doesn't translate all that well in SFC because many of the support mechanisms in SFB just are not there. If that is the answer then so be it, but it still does not make it relevant to SFC as you pointed out. I am begining to see the wisdom in many of Taldren's decisions concerning transfers of problematic races to SFC. It makes me very curious to see what an actual SFC Andromedan would have been like.

Strafer · « **Reply #62 on:** November 01, 2003, 03:15:59 pm »

Bookkeeping, F-NAL plasma arcs are FA, should be FH (FP equiv.)

FireSoul · « **Reply #66 on:** November 04, 2003, 04:55:46 pm »

Ok. Up to date with fixes up to now. That includes the Z-DWDm and Z-CCXm errors reported in the D2 forum. Maverick needs to learn that it's OK to post in the General Forum.

Fluf · « **Reply #69 on:** November 04, 2003, 11:51:05 pm »

FS, please check the following from the Mirak list. Thank you.

FS, I would still look at the SCS and make changes to it. It is SFB.

Also the DWDm you are fixing needed another 10 BPV bump as it was only 96BPV vs the 86 BPV of the DWD.
Also YFA on Z-DF+m needs pushed back to year 9 not 7, as per your comments that MIrv did not come out until 2272.
Also found Z-WDF or one of those smalller Wyn firgates didnt have any probes. Please check these ships.

Thanks for the work Firesoul. Great job.

FireSoul · « **Reply #73 on:** November 24, 2003, 07:22:02 pm »

Hey. I copy-pasted it from someone else. :P~

Rogue · « **Reply #74 on:** November 24, 2003, 08:02:13 pm »

Something I just found out is the SNB doesn't work... 6 warp 1 impulse and 3 battery can't move this bird and charge weapons even downgrading the G torp to an F. And the SNBP gets 4 additional warp but looses the G torp. Is this right? Even a WB+ can move a bit but not the snipe battle frigate.

Both specifications were introduced at the same time.

FireSoul · « **Reply #75 on:** November 24, 2003, 08:43:40 pm »

First, I'd like to say that the WE and WB+ (.. and VUL+..) have been GIVEN warps, since they are not supposed to have any at ALL. Comparing them with anything else won't really apply here.

Next, some of those Snipes are Taldren inventions (appeared in stock shiplist and are not SFB-complient). Let's see.

R-SNA: Accurate
R-SNAR: Accurate, refitted SNA
R-SNB: Taldren version. 2 warps missing.
R-SNBB: My added real SNB.
R-SNBP: Some unknown invented ship with lotsa warp, and a missing PLaG.
R-SNE: Escort ship found in R4, ok.
R-SNP: Unknown and probably invented Police variant. 3 warps each side.

Analisys: leaving in the SNP won't do any harm, since it's got a single PLaG. However, the SNB should be replaced by the SNBB, but the introduction date is much later. The SNBP doesn't fit in: too much warp.

Rogue · « **Reply #76 on:** November 24, 2003, 09:45:54 pm »

Ah... I'm understanding now. I might have to throw out the SNB then for your SNBB. I also am a little more enlightenend about the WB+. I thought that was the warp enabled WB but apparently not. I rather liked those old FCA vs. RWB shoot outs. 32 friggin' impulses to move 1 hex stuff. A little silly though. Ya the R torp represnts 50 damage but a spread of photons is as leathel to the smaller WB. I wonder since you brought it up... never tried nixing the warp for APR/impulse and seeing what happens. Might try that as an experiment.

FireSoul · « **Reply #77 on:** November 24, 2003, 10:43:17 pm »

The Warp's necessary, I think..
.. in SFB, even if you just have a poor little impulse engine, you can do things called impulse TAC and such. A ship can turn and maneuver pretty fast, despite the fact its maximum speed is 1. Since SFC is a Real-time game, a speed 1 ship would not only be too slow to use, it also loses all and any advantages it may have had before.

ALSO..
These ships, The WB+ and the VUL+, they all have 1 thing in common: Plasma Rs. In fact, even in SFB, the PLaR can't be overloaded on the WB+ without a special trick with the batteries. This can't be done in SFC, so you can guess why it's so useful to have a bit more power to these ships. Of course, they also cost a bt more BPV for it.

This is why I would have to say these ships are made in "Taldren's style", and I want to preserve that style.
ie: The VUL+ is my addition (from module Y1), but is put together in a similar way to the WB+.

besides..
WB+ -> WE -> KE
VUL+ -> WVL --> KVL

Patchfur · « **Reply #78 on:** November 25, 2003, 11:55:08 am »

This may actually make me shake the dust off and play again, for a bit. Looks wonderful.

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