Topic: OP+ 3.1 -- Ready for the world to fear

[FireSoul]

The next revision of the OP+ Project mod is ready. Like with OP+ 3.0, there are 2 installers: with or without models.

Homepage, with all information you may need:
 http://klingon.stasis.ca/OP_plusrefit/

With Models, 57mb download:
 http://klingon.stasis.ca/OP_plusrefit/opplus_31_models.exe

Without models, 260kb download:
 http://klingon.stasis.ca/OP_plusrefit/opplus_31_no_models.exe



There really isn't much else for me to add .. except.. well..

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The original SFC:OP shiplist has 2370 ship entries.
The OP Plus Refit shiplist has 4140 ship entries.

... and...

CHANGES FROM OP+ 3.0 to 3.1
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- models, models, and more models.

- Various fixes to both ships and models. Some models even caused CTDs.

- F-SCS and H-MNV now have 20 fighters. (30 in SFB)

- ISC carriers have been regulated by the 2/3rds rule applied to all other
added carriers to the game. The BPVs have been reduced. HOWEVER, the ISC
fighters now get 20% more armor.

- non-X2 MIRV loadout variants added where requirements met.

- ISC PPD ships have PPD mountpoint splits, where possible.

- L-PFE reduced to 3 disruptors. BPV now 50.

- Romulan Modular Dreadnoughts have been fleshed out.

 

 

[Kehakoul]

Exellent!!:)

CM.E.Kehakoul_XC  

[AdmiralFrey_XC]

Another fantastic job - I'm for trying the ISC carriers like this.

Way ta go, Firesoul !
 

[Dogmatix!]

Cool fish!


I might not get to check it out until after SS2 (though I may apply it to my laptop copy of the game since i'll find it hard to wait that long), but I definiotely look forward to it.  


F-SCS and H-MNVs with 20 fighters!?  



I'll try to steer clear!  oof...dat am scary.



 

[FireSoul]

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Cool fish!


I might not get to check it out until after SS2 (though I may apply it to my laptop copy of the game since i'll find it hard to wait that long), but I definiotely look forward to it.  


F-SCS and H-MNVs with 20 fighters!?  

I'll try to steer clear!  oof...dat am scary.
 

well.. Yeah.
The F-SCS has 24 fighters and 6 Mechlinks for Heavy Fighters. saying that it has 30 is easy to do, so doing 2/3 conversion to SFC is also easy. The H-MNV was also an obvious correction, since it's got 30 fighters in SFB.

[Dogmatix!]

It definitely goes a long way to distinguishing a F-CVA+ from an F-SCS in SFC terms, eh?


It will be interesting to see how this pans out in D2 terms.  That's always such a messy business, anyway...lol.  The new MNV probably won't be m,uch of an impact since we rarely see BBs in D2 campaigns anyway...but a 20-fighter SCS could potentially see the light of day.
 

[IndyShark]

FS, I have downloaded the 3.1 shiplist and can't get the exe file to install. Can you check the file without models please?

[The_Infiltrator]

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It definitely goes a long way to distinguishing a F-CVA+ from an F-SCS in SFC terms, eh?


It will be interesting to see how this pans out in D2 terms.  That's always such a messy business, anyway...lol.  The new MNV probably won't be m,uch of an impact since we rarely see BBs in D2 campaigns anyway...but a 20-fighter SCS could potentially see the light of day.
 

The thing that distinguishes the federation SCS from the CVA is the A-20. That's something apparently for the future it seems.

[Rhaz]

d/ling now!

[Mr. Hypergol]

Downloaded last night and used model viewer to scan through models.  Nice choices.  In fact your choices are so in line with mine it'll save me a lot of work substituting to fit my tastes.

Great work.  Looking forward to playing and exploring the changes from 3.0.  

[TOCXOBearslayer]

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The thing that distinguishes the federation SCS from the CVA is the A-20. That's something apparently for the future it seems.  

Yeah, the shiplist is great.  Now the fighterlist needs work.

[CptCastrin]

Excelent work FS! Willyou be updating the links at SFCx?

Also a note of warning to all: StormSeason II is not using this shiplist and as far as I know we will not be changing to it mid campaign. The final call on that is CaptJeff's however and so if the situation should change all will be informed asap.

Great work FS, I'm DL'ing it now.  

   

[CptCastrin]

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The thing that distinguishes the federation SCS from the CVA is the A-20. That's something apparently for the future it seems.  

Yeah, the shiplist is great.  Now the fighterlist needs work.  

Already been done ... mostly. Mog did it a while back but it's not been tested fully (as far as I know). Contact Mog for a copy and try it out. Note that it's a bit dated and probably doesn't include any new fighters from ADB suppliments.

I'm hopeful that maybe we can put out an addon to the OP+ shiplist that will include this fighter list but right now that's just an idea in my head.  

   

[Dogmatix!]

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It definitely goes a long way to distinguishing a F-CVA+ from an F-SCS in SFC terms, eh?


It will be interesting to see how this pans out in D2 terms.  That's always such a messy business, anyway...lol.  The new MNV probably won't be m,uch of an impact since we rarely see BBs in D2 campaigns anyway...but a 20-fighter SCS could potentially see the light of day.
 

The thing that distinguishes the federation SCS from the CVA is the A-20. That's something apparently for the future it seems.  

Well, sure....but I was more talking about "in terms of SFC" where heretofore, the F-CVA+ and F-SCS have pretty much been identical, have they not?

[762]

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The thing that distinguishes the federation SCS from the CVA is the A-20. That's something apparently for the future it seems.  

Yeah, the shiplist is great.  Now the fighterlist needs work.  

Agreed, the 2 BPV Killerbees pretty much nix flying Hydran on GSA, with a few exceptions.

[Klingon Fanatic]

Firesoul, thank you and congradulations for putting out another fine master work.

I am not complaining but as a 56ker, It took me 2 tries and over 7 hours to get the mod.

I am missing 6 ships that I can tell:

ZCVA
ZBB
ZDW
ZHDW
ZPOL

PSLV

Where might I procure these ships to complete my copy of you mod?

Qapla!

KF

[FireSoul]

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Firesoul, thank you and congradulations for putting out another fine master work.

I am not complaining but as a 56ker, It took me 2 tries and over 7 hours to get the mod.

I am missing 6 ships that I can tell:

ZCVA
ZBB
ZDW
ZHDW
ZPOL

PSLV

Where might I procure these ships to complete my copy of you mod?

Qapla!

KF  

Uhh.. What do you mean, "missing"? You didn't download the complete file?

[FireSoul]

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The thing that distinguishes the federation SCS from the CVA is the A-20. That's something apparently for the future it seems.  

Yeah, the shiplist is great.  Now the fighterlist needs work.  

Agreed, the 2 BPV Killerbees pretty much nix flying Hydran on GSA, with a few exceptions.  

How so? The fighter upgrades will actually be CHEAPER. It comes down to the same thing when upgrading the fighters.
Why is a 2 BPV killerbee.I wrong when identical fighters from other races are wroth 2 BPV?

[The_Infiltrator]

Huh?

What that does is add 8 bpv to the ranger, 6 to the horseman, 4 to the lancer, etc, etc. Already for GSA these ships have a BPV above their value since these fighters are always changed, as they are useless. As for cheaper - I don't know what you mean. When you buy fighters, they're the same cost, always. There's no "upgrade" discount. Therefore, this represents a surcharge that adds nothing to the combat value of the ship. The Overlord in no way is a 192 BPV ship. It's either 180 (without fighters) or 240 (with fighters). Or that's the way I think of it anyway.

On another topic, you've said previously that you don't really have any interest in working on a fighterlist. If I were to do so, and submit it to you, would you possibly be interested in hosting it? I'd like to take a crack at it, using a "Taldren" style with a SFB base.  

[Durin]

Thanks for the  mod  I think its awsome.