Topic: Toying Around With TOS (NOW AVAILABLE 4 DL)

[I_Mudd]

Hey all,

Here's a few things I have been messing around with ...



Yeah, I copped to the default starter ship ... but this one's a little different.



I would like to thank Azel for the inspirational design. Hope ya approve!

I'm still working on break models and hardpoints. The brk_mods shouldn't be too hard, but hardpoint placement in Milkshape seems rough. Bone placement?!? Joints, maybe ... but on a scaled model, the joints are HUGE! lol.

Yak Atcha Later,

I_Mudd.  

[Atrahasis]

I like them! But you may want to consider doing a sphere UV wrap around the pod of the Columbia, because a straight planar application like that makes the texture stretch at the sides. This will involve creating a specially designed texture but the result would be worth it.  

[I_Mudd]

That was my biggest problem with that model. I tried to minimize that by the lack of features on the sides of the sphere.
I didn't realize Milkshape had that function ... I'll have to give it whirl.

Thanks for the advice!

I_Mudd.

[Azel]

Wow sweet ships man!!!

I am honoured aswell
the only 2 things about the Azel is on the registry you are missing a "6"(NX-666)
and the cattamarrang hull is too short...if you can make it longer by about 20% it would look perfect

Thanks again man
Very impressed
and can't wait to DL  

[Rod O'neal]

Nice looking models

I want the Azel  

[I_Mudd]

A quick update.

I took Azel's advice and made a few subtle, but needed changes. It does look better.

 

Oh, and the extra '6' isn't missing. I left it off because a 600 series NX during a TOS time period seemed rather high.  

Yak Atcha Later,

I_Mudd.  

[Azel]

hey where's the Extra "6" LOL  

[Terradyhne]

the first model and your textures are cool but the second ship is verry strange design  

[Reverend]

I, Mudd; I cannot believe what a nice job you have done on that Azel class! Very good show!  

[Smiley]

Wow I_Mudd! You make TOS look so mucher cooler than I previously thought of it!  

[James Formo]

Yea the Azel is nice. Milkshape does not have UVwrap. However you can improver the mapping by selecting individual vertexes and reshaping the sphere into a square in the mapping window. This is time consuming and probalbly  not worth the effort.

One of the frustrations about working with milkshape is people always are telling you to do stuff without asking what software you have.  Honestly though after putting ships into SFC3 I see less problems on meshes done in Milk then in max.

[I_Mudd]

Thanks, Terradyhne. Strangeness appeals to me.

Thanks Rev!

Smiley, TOS and coolness are a state of mind.  

I'm still playing with the sphere texturing in Milkshape, James. You're right about no specific UV wrap, but there is a 'sphere map' feature I'm playing with. The whole idea of reshaping a sphere to a cube and back again is most unappealing, and I will not be trying that in the near future. [shudders at the thought]

I_Mudd.  

[Azel]

I_Mudd...
I just realized something on the model...The imulse assmbly is where the shuttle bay is supposed to be...lol
I can understand the mistake though...the TNG version looks like an impulse assembly aswell(sovie type)
sorry for noticing now man  

[I_Mudd]

hmmm ...

I kinda like the oddness of the Impulse Drive being off-center, not that it would matter in space. Perhaps in a 'TMP/TNG' refit, it was/will be changed for more aesthetic reasons. [shrugs, lol.]

Besides, it helps make it just a little different than yours, and variety is good.

That and I'm lazy.  

Yak Atcha Later,

I_Mudd.
 

[ActiveX]

NX was used for prototype indexing all throughout Trek...

So NX-666 isn't farfetched...

NX-2000 is the Excelsior...

[Fire Blade]

Like these two  a lot looking forward to DL

[starforce2]

I think they look great as well. You should add more detail to the side of the sphere though, IMHO it does looke a bit too plain on the side. Maybe some weapon ports or doors. I dunno what type of this it is (medical, science..ect) so maybe not weapons.


As for the tos azel, where exactly is the impulse? Or is that what those blue vents are?

[James Formo]

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I'm still playing with the sphere texturing in Milkshape, James. You're right about no specific UV wrap, but there is a 'sphere map' feature I'm playing with. The whole idea of reshaping a sphere to a cube and back again is most unappealing, and I will not be trying that in the near future. [shudders at the thought]

I_Mudd.    

Where in the menu is the spere map. Reason I ask is I still have version 6.13. I suspect I need to update. I did d/l the TNG plugins, since they installed in a new folder 6.16 I think. I just copied the sfc plug in over to my original 6.13 folder. Will be interested how that sphere map works out.

The more I look at your ships the more I like  

[Desty_Nova]

I don't know what it is....

but I like it!

[I_Mudd]

Thanks Fireblade and Desty Nova. Soon ... just a few more bugs ta kill ...  

Currently, I'm adressing the Columbia's sphere textures. I agree with Starforce2 (and everyone else) about the disturbing lack of detail to the sides of the Primary hull. I have made progress ...

I'm using version 1.6.5 of MilkShape, James. The 'sphere map' feature is located here:

 

It locks the texture onto the mesh like so:

 

I'm still poking around with this feature, so I hardly have all the answers for its applications. It does seem however, I'm on the right track.

More REAL soon ...

I_Mudd.