Topic: Romulan Scorpion Fighter WIP.....Pic inside....!!!  (Read 3717 times)

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MarianoDT

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Romulan Scorpion Fighter WIP.....Pic inside....!!!
« on: September 17, 2003, 06:21:07 pm »
Hi, I'm working on the Scorpion fighter seen in Nemesis and I want to share it to you so you can tell me what you think.
It still need a lot of work and it is not very accurate as you can see but I'm still working on it.

It is my first model (I've only made kitbashes before) so don't laugh.

Finally, I'd be very grateful  if someone have detailed pictures of this ship and can send them to me.


 

This is the only picture I could find.

 


Thanks in advance,

Mariano  

Rod O'neal

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Re: Romulan Scorpion Fighter WIP.....Pic inside....!!!
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2003, 06:29:46 pm »
You've got the basic shape pretty good. The "flow and feel" are dead on, I think. Keep going and refine some of the lines and details. So far though it's looking good, IMO.  

Kaenyne

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Re: Romulan Scorpion Fighter WIP.....Pic inside....!!!
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2003, 08:03:26 am »
Hey MarianoDT!

I can't post pictures, but I can point you in the right direction for some more shots:

http://www.trekpulse.com/movies/nemesis/screencaps/collection13.html

The shots appear dark on my monitor but you may have better luck. Not the greatest pics, but they should give you some more angles.

From what I've seen so far, she looks very accurate already!    

Captain KoraH

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Re: Romulan Scorpion Fighter WIP.....Pic inside....!!!
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2003, 11:01:10 am »
I give you the thumbs up!    I think what you've got here clearly shows that you have the ability to succeed. When it get's tough, take a short break, think about the shapes, and check the pics again. You can do this!

MarianoDT

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Re: Romulan Scorpion Fighter WIP.....Pic inside....!!!
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2003, 12:46:24 pm »
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I give you the thumbs up!    I think what you've got here clearly shows that you have the ability to succeed. When it get's tough, take a short break, think about the shapes, and check the pics again. You can do this!  




Hi people,
Thank you very much for your opinions and advices, they've really encouraged me to keep going......

And thank you very much for the link Kaenyne   , those pictures will help me a lot.


I'll post more pics asap....

Mariano
 

Azel

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Re: Romulan Scorpion Fighter WIP.....Pic inside....!!!
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2003, 12:52:30 pm »
Always great to see awesome work!!!
welcome to the team my friend
The community has been further enriched with your edition  

MarianoDT

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Re: Romulan Scorpion Fighter WIP.....Pic inside....!!!
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2003, 01:04:41 pm »
Hi people, a little update.
I haven´t had enough time to finish it, but I´ve changed a few things.

Here you have:

 

Hope you like it.

Thanks,

Mariano
 

Rod O'neal

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Re: Romulan Scorpion Fighter WIP.....Pic inside....!!!
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2003, 02:50:06 pm »
Looking better and better. We need more folks doing the *little* ships like this for us. Gonna be real nice when it's finished.  

Smiley

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Re: Romulan Scorpion Fighter WIP.....Pic inside....!!!
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2003, 04:10:21 am »
Wow Mariano! When I saw the first render I thought it was impressive, but the update that you posted is just fantastic! You are going to make very big waves in the modelling arena around here once you start to texture your babies! Well done! I wish you continued success!  

MarianoDT

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Re: Romulan Scorpion Fighter WIP.....Pic inside....!!!
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2003, 01:02:12 pm »
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Wow Mariano! When I saw the first render I thought it was impressive, but the update that you posted is just fantastic! You are going to make very big waves in the modelling arena around here once you start to texture your babies! Well done! I wish you continued success!  




Hi Smiley, thanks you very much for you comments.
I was planning to start texturing so I don´t get mad modeling all the time. Now I´m doing some research on Texturing so as to learn a little and start with it. I hope to have some news in a few days.
Also, I think knowing about what textures can and can not do for a model will help me with my moddeling.


Thanks again,

Mariano
 

Mainwaring

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Re: Romulan Scorpion Fighter WIP.....Pic inside....!!!
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2003, 09:29:59 pm »
One other piece of advice, before you get too much further into it... remember to keep the poly count down. It's looking sweet,  But it's also looking very high-poly for a game model.  Remember that you want to keep the triangle count as low as possible. Most modellers seem to aim for around 2000-3000 polys, but I prefer to aim for the 1000-2000 or less range. SFC seems to do better that way, even on higher end cards. Taldren's 'official' guideline is around 1600 I think, according to the shipbuilding manual thing. But they more often had finished models in the 600-900 poly range. Now, you can push that up a bit, due to better hardware being the norm these days, but I wouldn't go too far with it.

MarianoDT

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Re: Romulan Scorpion Fighter WIP.....Pic inside....!!!
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2003, 12:13:57 pm »
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One other piece of advice, before you get too much further into it... remember to keep the poly count down. It's looking sweet,  But it's also looking very high-poly for a game model.  Remember that you want to keep the triangle count as low as possible. Most modellers seem to aim for around 2000-3000 polys, but I prefer to aim for the 1000-2000 or less range. SFC seems to do better that way, even on higher end cards. Taldren's 'official' guideline is around 1600 I think, according to the shipbuilding manual thing. But they more often had finished models in the 600-900 poly range. Now, you can push that up a bit, due to better hardware being the norm these days, but I wouldn't go too far with it.  





Hi Mainwaring, Thanks for the advice.

I´m trying the Multires modifier to reduce the poly count and I wil let the textures do most of the detail. As it is now is like 5000 polys, and with the Multires I found that I can reduce up to 50% of the polys without loosing much smoothnes.
What I´m still looking for is a way to choose the polygons myself an merge them or convert a group of polys into one.

Does anyone know how to do that? Please?

Thanks in advance,

Mariano  

Mainwaring

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Re: Romulan Scorpion Fighter WIP.....Pic inside....!!!
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2003, 01:29:21 pm »
I actually use Lightwave for most of my modelling, and just use Max to convert, these days, so I'm not as up on it in Max as I should be. I will say, though, that regarding those poly reduction utilities... some of them do an awesome job, but there really is no substitute for modelling low-poly from the start. Obviously, it's a bit late now, but it's something to keep in mind for later projects.

If you can't get the poly count down any other way, send me a PM and we can arrange to run it through one of my utilities. Last night I took a 6100 polygon model I had laying around for CG cutscenes and knocked it down to 2000 with no significant detail loss. I was pretty impressed-- the reduction glitches were very minimal.
 

MarianoDT

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Re: Romulan Scorpion Fighter, NOW TEXTURED, IN-GAME PICS....
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2003, 02:01:22 pm »
Hi people, Sorry for the delay, I´ve been very busy....
THE TEXTURES ARE NOT FINISHED YET, but I wanted to show you how is going so far..

Here you have some in-game screenshots.

Hope you like them.......

http://photoshop.superdownloads.net/uploads/MDTSFC3ScorpioninnemesistextScr07.jpg
http://photoshop.superdownloads.net/uploads/MDTSFC3ScorpioninnemesistextScr09.jpg
http://photoshop.superdownloads.net/uploads/MDTSFC3ScorpioninnemesistextScr10.jpg
http://photoshop.superdownloads.net/uploads/MDTSFC3ScorpioninnemesistextScr11.jpg
http://photoshop.superdownloads.net/uploads/MDTSFC3ScorpioninnemesistextScr14.jpg
http://photoshop.superdownloads.net/uploads/MDTSFC3ScorpioninnemesistextScr18.jpg
http://photoshop.superdownloads.net/uploads/MDTSFC3ScorpioninnemesistextScr19.jpg
http://photoshop.superdownloads.net/uploads/MDTSFC3ScorpioninnemesistextScr21.jpg

This model has 1100 polys, It has lost some of the detail, but it is OK for a ship that little...
I can lower the polys a little more I you want to use it as a shuttle, or I can raise them if you want a bigger ship.

Thanks,

Mariano

 

Smiley

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Re: Romulan Scorpion Fighter, NOW TEXTURED, IN-GAME PICS....
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2003, 06:28:36 am »
Good, it would be better with some more detailed textures though

MarianoDT

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Re: Romulan Scorpion Fighter, NOW TEXTURED, IN-GAME PICS....
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2003, 12:18:15 pm »
I´ve done this textures with paint, so they are temporary untill y get a more robust image editor......
Besides, the original fighter is almost everything black. I´ll try with other look and colors....

Mariano
 

Futurama_Guy

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Re: Romulan Scorpion Fighter, NOW TEXTURED, IN-GAME PICS....
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2004, 09:40:29 am »
I WANT THIS SHIP!  

It's soooo...beautiful!  

Is it yet available!?? I don't care if the textures are perfect, i just want this model!!   PLEASE!!!  

Futurama_Guy

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Re: Romulan Scorpion Fighter, NOW TEXTURED, IN-GAME PICS....
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2004, 09:41:55 am »
 

Futurama_Guy

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Re: Romulan Scorpion Fighter, NOW TEXTURED, IN-GAME PICS....
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2004, 07:58:05 am »

Ba-Bump...


Anyone?

Is there a downloadable model anywhere yet? Finished or not?!  

Kaenyne

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Re: Romulan Scorpion Fighter, NOW TEXTURED, IN-GAME PICS....
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2004, 09:11:03 am »
I'm all for d/ling her myself!

She's very pretty!