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Desty_Nova

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Here come the Lyrans
« on: September 11, 2003, 05:28:32 pm »
Check it out guys:

http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?selected=476897

I'm workng on the Lyran fleet now. So far I've done the Heavy Cruiser, Light Cruiser, Destroyer, Frigate, Heavy Battlecruiser, Dreadnought, Tug, and Battleship. More will follow.

Marauth

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2003, 05:42:39 pm »
[Marlon Brando impersonation]Molto bene[/Marlon Brando impersonation] *makes sign of the cross over Desty_Nova

I can tell which is the heavy cruiser and the destroyer, but the Dreadnought and Battlecruiser are a bit confusing - is the one with 4 nacelles the Dreadnought and 3 the battlecruiser?

Desty_Nova

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2003, 05:47:07 pm »
Actually, the four-engined beast is the battleship. The smaller three-engine is the dreadnought. I didn't post pictures of the BCH, CL, or FF, mainly because they look similar to the ships I already posted. So, you like?

starforce2

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2003, 05:57:40 pm »
well I normaly think lyrans are crap but these are some decent ships...great work dood.

Marauth

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2003, 07:13:05 pm »
K they're pretty good, for SFB designs, as you probably got from the other threads is that I'm not too big a fan of the SFB ships, especially the 'other' aliens as they all look the same - the only way to tell the aliens apart is their colour scheme LOL. But yeah the models themselves are pretty kick-ass

Captain KoraH

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2003, 09:12:43 pm »
Anyone know where the camo versions of these ships came from?  

Desty_Nova

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2003, 10:24:27 pm »
Bingo, Rod O'Neal hit it right on the head.  Anyway, I've done LDR versions of all these ships so far(white hulls w/LDR insignia), and later on (if I have time) I might do other paint schemes as well, just for fun.  

Marauth

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2003, 08:45:41 am »
I believe there's one duchy with grey ships - not the LDR which are white, but I definetly remember a Lyran fleet with grey hulls, on of the other Duchies I'm sure.

FYI all the counties actually have their own insignia and colour scheme. Also each duchy has it's own colour patch on the nacelle pylons - you've got the Red of the Red Claw duchy, but you're insignia is back to front and is black as in the Black Claw fleet - which isn't even part of of the Red Claw duchy, I believe it's one of the Counties of the Apex duchy - the claw for the Red Claw fleet comes out of the right and goes to the left and is painted on in red.

Also there are 6 duchies, or at least 6 main fleets: Homeworld, Foremost, Apex, Red Claw, Enemy's Blood and Far Stars, the first three fleets have camo hulls while Red Claw has basic sand, Enemy's Blood has grey hulls while Far Stars has dark brown hulls, except for 2 of it's counties, Dark Storm, which is diagonal stripes of grey and light blue, while Night Star county has black hulls.

All this info can be gotten from here IIRC:

http://www.starfleetgames.com/minis/LYR/LyranCountys.pdf

Keep up the good work Desty_Nova

Rod O'neal

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2003, 10:46:57 am »
TVL,
Thanks for the corrections and filling in the info. Thanks for the link too. I've added the .pdf to my files

Thanks also Desty Nova for the models. You need to make these available soon. I'm dieing here  

Marauth

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2003, 11:14:04 am »
I live to inform, and nag when people make errors - no matter how small LOL

Hopefully we'll get some of the fleet variations of these ships.

Desty_Nova

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2003, 09:24:12 pm »
Thats Lestat. I didn't realize the color patches on the engine struts had that significance as well. Anyway, fleet variations should be easy enough to do. Any requests in that department guys?

Rod O'neal

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2003, 10:43:09 pm »
Quote:

I live to inform, and nag when people make errors - no matter how small LOL

Hopefully we'll get some of the fleet variations of these ships.  




That goes well with my own personal motto, "You don't have to do much. As long as what you do, you do well."

As far as varient colors goes, The sand/tan and black tiger stripe has always been my personal fav. The "Far Star Fleet", I believe?  

Desty_Nova

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2003, 02:34:50 am »
I'll see what I can do.

BTW, I'm not sure when I can have a download site up, but I'll try to get one as soon as I can. Look at it this way, the longer it takes me, the more stuff will be up for download by the time I finish.

starforce2

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2003, 06:04:37 am »
Quote:

I'll see what I can do.

BTW, I'm not sure when I can have a download site up, but I'll try to get one as soon as I can. Look at it this way, the longer it takes me, the more stuff will be up for download by the time I finish.  




if u wanna send them over here I can stick them in my sfc folder on nightsoft till u get your own site.

Desty_Nova

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2003, 04:28:01 pm »
Just thought I'd let you folks know, Starforce2 has graciously offered to host some of my models until they can find a permanent home, so later today I'll be sending those on over to him, and hopefully soon after you'll be able to download them. He or I will post again once they're up.  

Rod O'neal

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2003, 07:20:10 pm »
This is great news. Thanks Starforce 2. That's really nice of you to do for Desty_Nova (and the rest of us too ).
   

Marauth

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2003, 08:26:06 pm »
Nice

"Sir - Klingons off the starboard server!"

BTW Desty, when u finish the Kzinti could you do the usurper and WYN fleets - they're Kzinti with flat white ships I'll have a look on the net to try and find their markings and stuff

Desty_Nova

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2003, 08:34:27 pm »
Yeah, I'm doing WYN. I already finished a WYN version of the Lyran destroyer and the Great White class heavy cruiser. Plus, I've modeled but not textured all the other fish ships. And I'll be WYN-ifying many a kzinti and orion.

Marauth

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2003, 08:47:03 pm »
Just so I know - who the hell are the WYN? All I know is they don't like Kzinti - had a war with them and their ships look like fish, oh and the rest of their ships seem to be stolen from everyone else - Lyrans, Klingons, federation freighters...

Desty_Nova

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2003, 10:53:06 pm »
Well, here's the story.

There was a Kzinti noble who wanted to seize control of the throne, so he started a civil war. This noble, who later came to be known as "the Ususrper", came out on the losing end of the civil war. The ragged remnants of his fleet were being pursued by the kzinti fleet, and preferring suicide to capture, he plunged his ship into a huge nearby radiation field called the WYN cluster. Assuming he was dead, and not wanting to follow him in, the kzinti fleet turned around. But, the Usurper found out that the WYN cluster wasn't a huge cloud, but rather a shell of radiation, which could be survived if traveled through fast enough. And inside that shell, there were many habitable and resource-rich star systems. So the Usurper secretly began rebuilding his power and biding his time. Later, an Orion vessel came through the radiation field, also preferring the apparent suicide of the cluster to capture. They discovered what was inside, and the WYNs and Orions formed a partnership. The Orions also told the outside world, and soon the WYN cluster became a place for all kinds of people who didn't like being among the larger empires. For many years, the WYNs traded with its neighbors(Klingons, Lyrans, Kzintis), and fended off attacks from all of them with a rag-tag fleet of gunned-up freighters and whatever ships they could obtain by various other means. The Orions also operated a shipyard inside the safety of the cluster, in return for a gift of one light raider per year.
The Usurper had been hoarding most of his wealth during his years in the WYN cluster, and had always planned to return to the Kzinti Hegemony to take over and rule. His grandson(who had inherited the title), finally decided that the time to strike was right, and commandeered the Orion shipyard to build a custom-designed fleet that could go toe-to-toe with kzinti warships. These were the "Fish ships", so called because they are named after predatory terran fish by the federation. The Usurper built his new fleet, and launched the WYN War of Return. The War of Return ended with a final battle between the Crown Prince of the Hegemoney and the Usurper. Rather than decimate each other in the face of a growing Andromedan threat however, they had a titanic duel in space control ships. The exact outcome of this duel was never clear to the Federation. It is known that both ships survived and needed extensive rebuilding. It is known(or perhaps is only legend?) that the two badly crippled ships docked and their crews fought it out claw-to-claw. Regardless of who actually  sits on the throne now, it seems that life in the Hegemony and the WYN Cluster have returned to normal after this event.

Phew. There you go.  

Rod O'neal

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2003, 11:23:17 pm »
Sounds like you're planning on doing everything except Feds j/k

I've wanted the Wyn fish ships for a while. I hope that you can post some pics soon.

Even though it's not quite SFB on my computer, at least I can make it look like it is. I hope that you can get some files up for us soon. I'm dieing here.  

Desty_Nova

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2003, 11:44:46 pm »
Ask and ye shall receive!

http://www.nightsoftware.com/starforce/SFC/Desty-Nova-Lyrans/

Enjoy folks, I hope it was woth the wait
 

Desty_Nova

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2003, 11:48:39 pm »
By the way, as I finish up break models and stuff I'll be adding more, so stay tuned!

And I will be doing feds Rod, just not until I do other stuf.

starforce2

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2003, 11:58:09 pm »
Bridge commander ports/pictures comming soon as well. I gaurentee those blue ventral vents are going to look sweet in BC.

And I don't know if u got that last message before u went offline on msn but I need something to go by to know how big I should make them.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by starforce2 »

Desty_Nova

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2003, 01:23:36 am »
Cool, can't wait to see 'em.

Anyway, I e-mailed you a picture that you can use as a rough guide for scaling.  

Bernard Guignard

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2003, 07:20:05 am »
Hi Destynova
   Being interested in ship scales and Schematics, Could you fire that picture to me bguignard@rogers.com also.
Thanks  

Marauth

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2003, 09:07:16 am »
They look so cool Desty, I'm gonna have to do a whole new TOS shiplist now

BTW Desty - if you like I could do all the other fleet markings for you. Unless you've already done them ofcourse, but really I could do all the pennants for u and the other fleet colours, except possibly the camo markings of the Homeworld, Apex and Foremost duchies.

Edit: I've already done the Red Claw, Gold Fang, Predator, Pelt Hunter and Black Stripe fleet CAs and I'm working on a grey hull texture for the Enemies Blood Duchy and the four other counties with grey hulls.
« Last Edit: September 16, 2003, 09:38:17 am by The Vampire Lestat »

Captain KoraH

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2003, 10:01:51 am »
TVL, can we see the various paint schemes you've done? I'm sure they will look impressive!

Marauth

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2003, 10:20:55 am »
Not really, the one's I listed last time were just new pennants, they still have the sand hull and the red clan marking of the Red Claw Duchy - I have however come up with a very faint blue-grey hull colour for the Enemy's Blood Duchy and am doing the pennants for it's fie Counties - Enemy's Blood, Hidden Dagger, White Stripe, Bloody Claw and Dark Star. Then I'll do the brown Far Stars Duchy - it has 5 Counties, 3 are brown but Night Star will be black and Dark Storm has diagonal stripes of grey and blue, I'm preserving as much of the aztec on the hulls as possible with the re-colour but it obviously gets a little faded - here's a little pic of the Enemy's Blood CA:



Not that bad IMO but I'm not sure about the grey hull, it makes it look very drab and dull, but it's what the SFB ships look like which is the point right now

Desty_Nova

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2003, 04:01:42 pm »
That's cool, Lestat. I'm also working on various fleet versions. You want to send me those penants you're working on? I'd like to see em up close. BTW, I finished up the Hellcat battlecruiser last night, starforce should be posting it today.  

Marauth

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2003, 04:14:22 pm »
I've done the three brown ships from the Far Stars fleet, but the brown looks horrible, it's almost orange where it's meant to be a very dark brown, anyway, I'll try and do some other ships with the pennants I've done so far aswell as doing the Night Star fleet which has black ships - if u want them Desty then I'd be more than happy to send them but the pennants are just resizes of the ones on that ADB pdf file I posted a while back, the Bobcat doesn't carry fleet markings for some reason so I'll just do the 3 recolours - grey, brown and black.

Desty_Nova

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2003, 05:31:19 pm »
Well, I wasn't sure if they even put fleet markings on something as small and expendable as PFs. I could easily add them however.  Oh BTW, what color is the patch on the engine struts of an LDR ship?
« Last Edit: September 16, 2003, 05:34:18 pm by Desty_Nova »

Marauth

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2003, 05:48:34 pm »
I have no facking clue about the LDR colour schemes sorry but ADB are not very eager to give out info on anything unless you're willing to pay through the nose for it. The PFs aren't meant to have fleet markings actually so it doesn't matter, though I would imagine they would be painted the same colour as their fleet - so Apex fleet PFs would have camo hulls and so on.

I don't think LDR ships would have a certain colour for their patch, as they don't have separate fleets, I'll do some research and see what I can scrounge from the net.

Desty_Nova

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2003, 03:10:55 am »
New Lyran, Gorn, and WYN ships are up for download. Go check it out.  
« Last Edit: September 17, 2003, 03:27:10 am by Desty_Nova »

Desty_Nova

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Re: Here come the Lyrans
« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2003, 05:00:43 am »
I just realized something that totally slipped my mind-- the WYN Great White doesn't have any hardpoints! Sorry about that guys, I'll try to finish that up and repost it (or you can just do your own, LOL).