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mathcubeguy

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This game runs, and it runs WELL
« on: February 07, 2003, 09:16:02 am »
I love SFC 3. I dont really have any show stoping bugs at all. Occasionaly when in single player after playing a while, I will get a stuck on loading problem, but since it happens rarely, im not bothered at all. I have never come across a set of games like the Starfleet Command series that I have played extensivly without either an invincibility mode or after installing a mod. Yes, the game could be better, but in reality, is there any game out there that couldnt be better?

A somewhat off-topic note: Please do not require DX9 with any patch. I dont play online anyways and downloading a bunch of files just so I can play a game thats patched up would not be fun. Now, if you were to send me Direct X 9 on a disk, you would hear no objections from me!    

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Re: This game runs, and it runs WELL
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2003, 10:08:51 am »
if you think this game runs fine ,, maybe you should go online .....   you would change your mind ...  

Captain KoraH

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Re: This game runs, and it runs WELL
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2003, 10:44:05 am »
If all you do is play the single player campaigns, SFC3 works like a dream. It's probly the least buggy of any SFC release ever. I only had one single instance of a bug happening in the entire single player experience.

for this I can say, :"Great work Taldren!"

But, at tyhe same time, if I look towards the multiplayer experience (90% of any PC game these days) all I can say is... why Taldren why?

The patch will fix a lot of problems, but not all I'm guessing. I'm just grateful that it's coming, if it's coming...


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cherokee158

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Re: This game runs, and it runs WELL
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2003, 12:13:48 pm »
I agree. I found the earlier SFC games to be too flaky to enjoy online, but this game engine is pretty solid. (as solid as this stuff seems to get, anyway) Now they just need to pile on the races and ships (and perhaps treat us to some of the nice stuff that inexplicably got tossed out this time around, like race-specific UI's and quality, dynamic music) and they'll have a winner.

mathcubeguy

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Re: This game runs, and it runs WELL
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2003, 12:27:53 pm »
I dont think my 26k net conection would like multiplayer too well... Sorry.  

ChamadaIV

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Re: This game runs, and it runs WELL
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2003, 12:48:34 pm »
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I dont think my 26k net conection would like multiplayer too well... Sorry.  




Ouch! Sorry to hear that. Just when I thought my 50k connection was horribly slow. But no matter. As I say sometimes, "Go where eagles dare," or, "boldly go where...," <scratch>

Try Multiplayer anyways with your 26k speed. Before the phone lines around here got updated, I used to get approx. 24.4k speed and played a WAY more network intensive game - Dark Age of Camelot. I myself have yet to try sfc3 multiplayer, and don't plan to until sometime after patch.

In the end however, it all comes down to the game's net code (which Taldren didn't do too well - but better than sfc2's code i thinks, or so I hear) and your ISP.
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Re: This game runs, and it runs WELL
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2003, 12:50:36 pm »
 
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I dont think my 26k net conection would like multiplayer too well... Sorry.  





OMG   Dude Im Sorry ...     I  hope cable becomes your friend 1 day !!!!!  

Happy Gaming  

Trekker

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Re: This game runs, and it runs WELL
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2003, 01:08:03 pm »
I got this game for Christmas. It came as a complete surprise because I know we don't have much money. I half expected it not to play on my older system, but it did. I love this game. Thank you Taldren for making this game.
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StarTrekcaptain

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Re: This game runs, and it runs WELL
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2003, 04:16:12 pm »
I know that people have been complaining about this game for a long time, and with the patch and all it just makes people mad.  But i ave never had anyproblems with this game.  I play quite extensivly online, and i can honestly say hand on heart that i have never had any of the problems encounterd with other people.  Everything works great!

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Re: This game runs, and it runs WELL
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2003, 06:21:22 pm »
 
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 I know that people have been complaining about this game for a long time, and with the patch and all it just makes people mad. But i ave never had anyproblems with this game. I play quite extensivly online, and i can honestly say hand on heart that i have never had any of the problems encounterd with other people. Everything works great!  




You never

been stuck at load , cd key error , had your ship blow up, stuck after battle  .. or any of the other bugs !!!!!

You are a lucky .... I mean very very Lucky !!!!!

Still Great Game  

StarTrekcaptain

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Re: This game runs, and it runs WELL
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2003, 06:35:50 pm »
No thats right.  I have seen a list of all the bgs, and i have had NONE of them, EVA.  Weird!

Travarr

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Re: This game runs, and it runs WELL
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2003, 09:59:40 pm »
I haven't seen any of the bugs either, but I don't play online  

Dash Jones

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Re: This game runs, and it runs WELL
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2003, 04:32:41 am »
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Quote:

 I know that people have been complaining about this game for a long time, and with the patch and all it just makes people mad. But i ave never had anyproblems with this game. I play quite extensivly online, and i can honestly say hand on heart that i have never had any of the problems encounterd with other people. Everything works great!  




You never

been stuck at load , cd key error , had your ship blow up, stuck after battle  .. or any of the other bugs !!!!!

You are a lucky .... I mean very very Lucky !!!!!

Still Great Game    




I have had the Can't find CD, stuck at load, crash at mission generation bugs, however, I still think overall (I survived the Dominion Wars crusades, the Pool of Radiance 2 Fiasco's, the NeverWinter Nights annihilation, and various other things to give you an idea why I might be biased in this manner, as well as other buggy game times), that SFC3 is one of the most stable games ever put out.

Love the game.  Can't get enough of it overall.  SFC3 grows on you, and I still break out the SFC CD and play it to this day...and love it...a sure sign of a great game!

ChamadaIV

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Re: This game runs, and it runs WELL
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2003, 12:08:26 am »
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I have had the Can't find CD, stuck at load, crash at mission generation bugs, however, I still think overall (I survived the Dominion Wars crusades, the Pool of Radiance 2 Fiasco's, the NeverWinter Nights annihilation, and various other things to give you an idea why I might be biased in this manner, as well as other buggy game times), that SFC3 is one of the most stable games ever put out.




The list of games you mentioned have indeed faced their problems, as they were total let-downs, aside from  Neverwinter Nights. The game was revolutionary in its own right (though sadly incomplete; the game sports a half-assed version of the extremely well designed d20 3rd edition DnD rules set). The single player campaign was more than playable right out of the box with next to no problems for me (and my PC is somewhat below what you'd call top-o'-the-line).

For SFC3, The single player experience worked solidly, from the first Klingon sortie to the final Federation showdown with the Roms. (oops, little spoiler action there, sorry). It was about 20 hrs of play, if not that, and only one program crash (but this had to be due to my miniscule 256mb ram) occured. No stuck-at-loads, no trouble finding the CD, none of that (i'm running a dual P3 533mhz setup if you're wondering about the load time thing). The only other problem I seem to find from an otherwise solid performing game is the officer database glitch carried over from the first version of SFC2: EAW. The bug involves tremendous slow-downs during single player conquest mode. A problem that will be fixed come patch time...




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Love the game.  Can't get enough of it overall.  SFC3 grows on you, and I still break out the SFC CD and play it to this day...and love it...a sure sign of a great game!  




Aye, that it does, and it sure is. I dare someone else on these boards to say otherwise...why else would you be here, eh? Now if only they could make the Intrepid-class look a smidge better (the deflection/sensor dish looks ugly as hell, albeit a fine 3d model nonetheless   ) and get those warp nacells to fold up when you go to warp speed (just like USS Voyager did, it was the same class after all).

  Don't worry about that Taldren. I'm just giving you guys hell! You guys worked very hard on sfc3, therefore you deserve all the kudos you get...  

Vysander

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Re: This game runs, and it runs WELL
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2003, 09:37:49 am »
due to the staggering amount of bugs and crashes associated with the multiplayer aspect of this game... i've been letting my cd act as a coaster.... maybe i'll try it again when the patch comes out... but I end up rebooting more with SFC3 in one night than I normally do in a whole month!

(and don't give me that custom config junk... all drivers updated and using very very very popular hardware, 1.8athelon, 512 DDR, geforce 4 TI, SB Live, WinXP pro)

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Re: This game runs, and it runs WELL
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2003, 10:13:55 am »
yea the 2 things that bother me are    loading screen bug & stuck in battle .... Im only speaking of online play single player has been great .....

my comp is a little older but still plenty fine      

P3 1gig,, 512 ram,, SB live,, GF3 TI 500,, 40 gig hard drive ....all latest drivers & DX9
& my connection is 3000kbps down & 500 up cable ,,  

StarTrekcaptain

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Re: This game runs, and it runs WELL
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2003, 01:46:21 pm »
i'm sorry, but really people is this game that bad.  I mean i know i havn't had the ufortunate bugs that many people have had, well i havn't had any, but using the cd as a coaster.  Well thats just damn rude.  I'm sorry if you guys have major problems, but this is a damn good game, its one of the best startrek games i have ever played, and thats something cos i have a huge pc collection of stgames.  

By the way i have the UK version, or at least the EU version (as i live in england) could that be why i don't seem to hae many bugs???

ChamadaIV

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Re: This game runs, and it runs WELL
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2003, 02:00:09 pm »
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due to the staggering amount of bugs and crashes associated with the multiplayer aspect of this game... i've been letting my cd act as a coaster.... maybe i'll try it again when the patch comes out... but I end up rebooting more with SFC3 in one night than I normally do in a whole month!

(and don't give me that custom config junk... all drivers updated and using very very very popular hardware, 1.8athelon, 512 DDR, geforce 4 TI, SB Live, WinXP pro)  




Whoa, calm down there Vysander. I was merely trying to inform, not agitate.    Perhaps I'm one of the lucky ones, who knows? I used to be a long-time console gamer before switching to full blown PC gaming in 1994. So you'd expect I was used to playing bug-free games (as most console games are, particulary Japanese made games). But I'm very stoic and forgiving about bugs not matter how minor or even major they are. As long as they don't keep me from enjoying the game, then I've no problem with it. I can put with load times and annoying random errors and such. All that matters is the gameplay and the fun I'll have when I get past all that crap.

See the blue words in my sig below? Taldren has created a great series of games, bugs or no. I'm devoted to Star Trek, but I'm an even more devoted gamer. For what its worth, SFC3 is a fine piece of software with a few chinks in its armor. Don't worry, those chinks will be fixed soon enough...  

Keep the faith....

 

Vysander

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Re: This game runs, and it runs WELL
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2003, 03:27:18 pm »
I tried.. I really did try to see through the bugs.... I spent a heck of a lot of time on the D3 servers crashing and crashing and crashing.

Just can't take it anymore

As for this Taldren's history... comparing the bugginess of SFC1-3 (yes i own  them all) to other mainstream games of the same complexity, SFC doesn't quite win the crown but comes close in number of bugs blamed on system compatibility

It's had 3 tries to get dynaverse and the multiplayer portion right... while it's greatly improved from SFC1 it's still a disappointment after all these years.

This game is a great game, just missing the warp core
Vysander  

Pandion

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Re: This game runs, and it runs WELL
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2003, 04:48:42 pm »
I only started to see  bugs after I put DX9 on my computer, mainly it was go into a fight SP and nothing would happen hit ESC to quit and suddenly the game come's to life ( and yes I did put on the DX9 fix)