Topic: Has anyone ever converted the Sha'Kurian ships from KA to SFCII/OP?

[Marauth]

What it says on the topic line, I was reading some stuff on the KA website and I remembered abou the Sha'Kurians, their fleet is made entirely of carriers and assault fighters plus the ships looked pretty cool especially the Hunter class CVL. I fanyone has converted them to .MOD could they give me a link or if anyone has them on their comp could they send them to my email.

[Klingon Fanatic]

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What it says on the topic line, I was reading some stuff on the KA website and I remembered abou the Sha'Kurians, their fleet is made entirely of carriers and assault fighters plus the ships looked pretty cool especially the Hunter class CVL. I fanyone has converted them to .MOD could they give me a link or if anyone has them on their comp could they send them to my email.  

I *believe* DarkMatrix told me that they didn't survive the conversion process to SFC. Something to do with the way the models were made  caused them to get distorted, if I recall correctly. If I'm WAY OFF, its probably because he didn't like the models, possibly because 'We already have Hydrans in SFC' [my words not DM's]. I do recall him telling me that KA models were a pain in the Arse to convert....

At any rate, he converted a bunch of Klingon Academy ships; the Klingon worker bee style shuttle (unlit), the tri-armed Klingon Starbase, a klingon outpost (same Klingon base but no arms),  the Emperor and Suvwi' Qeh, the entire KA Tholian fleet (it took over a year to get them lit, fixed and flying in the right direction; I also have THE latest texture fixes for them). the Feds and the Roms weren't as memorable  (IMHO) and I only have the Federation shuttle (unlit). He also converted the Altair Cruiselines luxury liner and I recently sent it back to him and  requested it be scaled to  FDN size and to be lit, lol. Now THAT is a luxury liner unlike the STOCK factory on warp engines that meets Steve Jackson's OGRE, lol.

Having written that, let me say that the quality of KA inspired models greatly IMPROVED after DarkMatrix released his KA conversions about two years ago. Naturally, his site is down too...

Moonraker brought us  a higher poly  Romulan Legion ( I retextured using Ganymad's textures), Praex escort and the KA RBB (unlit if I recall, I'm not using it at present) a great Ulysses class (USS Nebachnezzer) later retextured by Ganymad (and myself, LOL. I kept Moon's  bridge textures on it). He also released a set of red/brown textures for the Suvwi' Qeh that I applied to Cromwell/Cleeve's Suvwi' Qeh ( THE current standard Suvwi' Qeh and my favorite Klingon ship). If memory serves, Cromwell also  made an Emperor class too.

While we are walking down memory lane, P81 did an Emperor and a bunch of KA Gorn prior to DarkMatrix's conversions.

Hmmm... Did I miss anything?

 

[Marauth]

Aaah, the memories, it's a warm fuzzy feeling, oh, no that's just the fresh blood in the veins... Oh well, I actually remember all those threads about the KA Tholians, and I believe the first actual ship mod I got was P81's Emperor BCH (I'd previously d/led the entirety of the SFCII spacedock retextures - one of my first acts on the internet) speaking of memories does anyone still have the original Chicago class NCA? I have Moonraker's remake of a few years back but I wanted the original, I used to have it but lost it over the years and HD crashes.

For the n00bs present the Chicago was the first ever ship released for SFCI, it's a pretty terrible bash of the stock fca but it's a piece of history really.

Anyway, back to the Sha'Kurians - would anyone be able to convert them? Why is it such a pain in the ass to convert them? And what's this red stuff dripping on the keyboard. Oh wait it's blood LOL

If no one will convert them then could anyone make some new ones based on the KA ones? (really I'd like to have the originals but if they can't be converted then something's better than nothing aye)

[Klingon Fanatic]

TVL,

Funny you should bring up the original USS Chicago kitbash! I am also looking for it for historical archive purposes. I re-downloaded Moonraker's latest version last night.

I just checked Newships: http://www.strategyplanet.com/sfc/newships/shipyard and could not find it BUT the original 'Defiant' a la Romulan kitbash/retexture is there... Memories...

Qapla!

KF

[Marauth]

You mean the Fed BOP using the stock rwe.mod? Oh god I didn't think anyone had that anymore! All I can remember about the Chicago was that P81 had it available on the STS for a while before it went down.

[Terradyhne]

i have converted the SCVL to 3ds and that will be not the problem to be converted to SFC 2 and i could convert the others to but readding the textures is stupid and takes some time

   

[Marauth]

WAAAAAAAAAAAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice one Terradyhne, was the original only 363 polies? I was sure the Ka ships were higher poly than that, as for should you convert theym? Yes please! The SCVL is the best of the 5 IMO but the Longfang is also pretty cool.

For those who don't know about the Sha'Kurians, they were basically Hydrans but sandwiched in between the Klingons and Romulans instead of Klingons and Lyrans, in this position they also have contact with the Tholians and have had conflicts with all three though they're not expansionist it's usually the fault of the Klingons or Romulans, their war with the Tholians took place in the 2280s and was a victory for them but obviously the Tholians would never yield territory so it was probably a pointless war. I don't particularly care much for their very sparse background info from KA but their ships were very cool as you can see.

[Klingon Fanatic]

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i have converted the SCVL to 3ds and that will be not the problem to be converted to SFC 2 and i could convert the others to but readding the textures is stupid and takes some time

     

Now we just need Terradyne to actually release this and the rest of his fine models that he is taunting us with, LOL!

Great job Terradyne!

Qapla!

KF

[Klingon Fanatic]

BUMP for news!
[Tongue-in-cheek] This is a MUST have for any Klingon Academy to SFC Mod!
KF

[Marauth]

Ok it's night now and I haven't fed yet, I wonder where Terradyhne is right now! j/k Seriously Terradyhne, your torturing me not releasing this thing, my skin is getting pale(r than usual)

Ok enough vampire jokes for one post BUMPing this for info on a release

[Terradyhne]

if you guys tell me where to place the hardpoint`s for those ships i wouldl convert them for ya because my KA is not more running at my PC and i don't know where to place the weapons and how much  

[Klingon Fanatic]

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if you guys tell me where to place the hardpoint`s for those ships i wouldl convert them for ya because my KA is not more running at my PC and i don't know where to place the weapons and how much  

I would recommend matching the hardpoints up with similar looking Hydran ships. That's my humble opinion.

Qapla!

KF

[Marauth]

Damnit - anyone here have KA? If you can't get pics of where the weapons are ingame then I agree with KF - match 'em up with a close Hydran ship. I found the stats on klingonacademy.com:

Alpha class super-carrier (SCVB)
length: 991m
weapons: forward arc: 2 rapid-fire phasers, 2 multiwarhead projectile launchers
aft arc: 2 rapid-fire phasers, 2 multiwarhead projectile launchers
port/starboard: 2 rapid-fire phasers, 5 multiwarhead projectile launchers each
the ship also has something called a GDDS but I don't remember what that is. I guess the rapid-fire phasers are akin to one of the more powerfull types of gatling phaser while multiwarhead projectiles can just be drones for the purposes of SFC.
the ship carries 30 Sharp Tooth bombers.

Longfang class heavy carrier (SCVA)
717m
Forward: 2 rapid-fire phasers, 1 multiwarhead projectile launcher
Aft: 2 rapid-fire phasers, 1 multiwarhead projectile launcher
Port/Starboard: 2 rapid-fire phasers, 2 multiwarhead projectile launchers each
Special: 1 GDDS generator
Bombers: 15 Sharp-Tooth class bombers

Hunter class light carrier (SCVL)
504m
Forward: 1 rapid-fire phaser, 2 ATG projectile launchers
Aft: 1 rapid-fire phaser
Port/Starboard: 1 rapid-fire phaser each
Special: 1 GDDS generator
Fighters: 15 Claw class superiority/intercept fighters

Sharp-Tooth class fighter/bomber (SA)
30m
Forward: 1 rapid-fire phaser, 2 ATG projectile launchers

Claw class superiority fighters (SF)
30m
Forward: 1 rapid-fire phaser, 1 ballistic projectile launcher

I also have no clue what ATG projectiles are so, once again drones, the kind that fighters launch, fogotten the type.

Sorry I can't be of any real help with the hardpoints

[Klingon Fanatic]

This was cool information TVL!

Again for those of us following at home check out this background info on the Sha' Kurians:

http://www.3dactionplanet.com/klingonacademy/archive/kanews/shakurian/index.html

This is from the December 1999 Klingon Academy Website.  Check out the Screen shots pages, wonderful stuff here:

"One additional note about Sha'kurian weapons technology, is their relatively recent acquisition of the Graviton Density Distortion Sphere Generator or GDDS. The Gorn originally developed the GDDS during one of their many wars with the Romulan Empire. During that war, Romulan troops captured a ship equipped with one of these devices for study. The Romulans towed the vessel to a research facility far from the Gorn border in what was then one of the farthest frontiers of their empire. Not long after research began on the enigmatic Gorn device, the Romulans made a regrettable first-contact with the Sha'kurians. Romulan expansionist dogma clashed violently with Sha'kurian territoriality causing a second front to open for the Romulans. During the fighting, a Sha'kurian raiding force captured the research station and the GDDS as well. The Sha'kurians adapted the Gorn device to fit within their combat tactics and have been fielding them ever since, utilizing the defensive capabilities of the GDDS to a far greater extent than the Gorn and thus greatly increasing the survivability of their carrier forces. "



Aside from the Sha' Kurians and a small number of SFC1 Klingon Academy conversions by Darkdrone (Luxury Liner) that need to be adjusted and lit, we have enough stuff probably to do a Klingon Academy mod, LOL.

Qapla!

KF

[Reverend]

Yes, good Info Lestat-.... I read that site posted above.... I now am wondering why no one tried to model them beofore- they look awesome! Please model these!

Is there any other races on Klingon Academy? I never saw it available here in the Midwest- all we got was a precious few SFC and stupid Dominion Wars...  

[Marauth]

Nope, no other Ka races, just Feds Klinks Roms and some very hideous Gorn that became the basis for the stock SFC models, also the Tholians; I don't know about SFA but I doubt there was anything in that other than the established races I'll have a look. I'm sure there's someone around here would be able to model some more Sha'Kurians, first we need to get these ones in SFC though @ Terradyhne LOL I get what you mean about the hardpoints, there's not really any reference points like phaser arrays on Fed ships.

Dominion Wars did suck didn't it. The version they seel in the UK didn't even have that shipeditor thingy that they gave free in America.

KA promised so much but you needed an astrophysics degree to play it, much like SFC requires a membership in MENSA to be any good (I still suck at it after - I think - 5 years since SFCI came out)

[Reverend]

Ah, don't worry over Dom Wars, Lestat- it wasn't worth twit, and the Ship Creator that came with it is worthless, thrown together, and the best part- it won't let you transfer ships you've created over to the game it came with! That was a good one, LOL! The only good thing about Dom Wars was that you could play dead- shut off all power and just sort of drift.


Someone please model those Sha'kurians!!  

[Marauth]

You know that ship creator was actually sold. For money. You had to pay to posses it! Seriously it was rated at like 10% in all the games mags. Oh well I never liked TNG as much as my beloved TMP, they should have kept SFCIII in TMP and done the Andromedan Invasion, or any of the minor conflicts like the Hydran war to recover the Landfalk system, the Klingon war against the Vudar, the Romulan civil war, the WYN war of return against the Kzintianything but the crap they cooked up.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Hello Referend,

I bought Starship Creator I,
and Starship Creator II,

Alas,
I was very disappointed with both,
at I could get netiher to run properly,

Did you ever build a starhship,
in either Starship Creator, and get it to "fly a complete mission"?

I've got both sitting "in the box",
gathering dust,

As I 3d mod things now, to build my own starships,
I accept that I bouhgt a product that I could never get to work,

But I admit this Starship Creator, always made me feel,
disappointed, and frankly cheated,


Take care,
GeneralWolfe

[Marauth]

Yo Don, well that's what you get for buying a game that got slated by every computer mag that reviewed it with scores often in single digit percentages. Anyway it's much more fun to build the ships properly so you can play with them in a game like SFC don't you think?

So anyway BUMPing for info - Terradyhne, where you at bud?