Topic: No Need For A SFC3 Final Patch...

[Cleaven]

First you state that a patch is not needed, then you say that you have waited too long for a patch.

Either a patch is not needed because the modders have fixed everything, or a patch is needed  (it has been a long while) and you are just trolling. Which is it?  

[JayBee]

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First you state that a patch is not needed, then you say that you have waited too long for a patch.

Either a patch is not needed because the modders have fixed everything, or a patch is needed  (it has been a long while) and you are just trolling. Which is it?  

Well, you can sure twist a mans words with the best of em.

[David Ferrell]

I guess this means I can finally take that retirement I've
been looking forward to.

I'll just tell the makers of those fine mods that thier help
is no longer needed in testing a patch that is unneccessary.

Thanks,

Dave  

[feargusf]

NOOOOOOO! In fact, I would rather you made Pelican and KoraH, along with the other Beta testers, put everything else on the back burner in favor of further intensive testing on new patch builds. Crack the whip, Mr. Ferrell!  

[vsfedwards]

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First you state that a patch is not needed, then you say that you have waited too long for a patch.

Either a patch is not needed because the modders have fixed everything, or a patch is needed  (it has been a long while) and you are just trolling. Which is it?  

I dont think cleaven twisted any words there, how he saw it, is how i saw it.

        First he says theres no need, then he says "have we ever waited this long for a patch?" the fact that he is waiting suggests that he needs. If he didnt need it, he wouldnt be waiting.  

 edited to add paragraphs, the whole post just looked wrong without them!!

[Tulwar]

I agree, there is no need for a patch.  I lost my CD code, my disk is corrupt, I've never installed it on this computer, and I didn't have any fun playing SFC3.  Do I want a patch?  What I'd really like is to see is something happen to Activision, so the license can be bought by a responcible publisher.  

[Dark Jedi]

Was this B.S. supposed to be a joke or what?  

[ActiveX]

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Was this B.S. supposed to be a joke or what?  

A horrible sadistic prank...

[Alexander1701]

  Naw,

TNZ is great, and a credit to both the modders and Taldren for making such a modable game.

Another patch would be great, but I must say that you did a relatively good job on the last one and that the game is mostly playable. One player found it SO good, he thought that someone else must have fixed it because of all of the problems he felt were solved. So I think that this thread is just an underhanded way of saying 'Way to go, Taldren. Keep up the good work, though at this rate you almost needn't you're doing such a fine job'

Or at least, that's how we should all take it, because we have a very uninformed poster at the helm.

Alexander  

[Tulwar]

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Was this B.S. supposed to be a joke or what?  

A horrible sadistic prank...  

Actually, I was perfectly serious.  I'm surprized anyone still plays it.  I'm not too dismayed:  What if it deviated from SFB and was good?  At least I don't have to worry about that.  With the exception of the single player mission scripting and a slight improvement of the Dynaverse, I thought the game was complete, unadulterated crap.  I can't say enough bad about it!

Now, if someone would just rewrite those scripts for SFC OP!  

[Dark Jedi]

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Was this B.S. supposed to be a joke or what?  

A horrible sadistic prank...  

Actually, I was perfectly serious.  I'm surprized anyone still plays it.  I'm not too dismayed:  What if it deviated from SFB and was good?  At least I don't have to worry about that.  With the exception of the single player mission scripting and a slight improvement of the Dynaverse, I thought the game was complete, unadulterated crap.  I can't say enough bad about it!

Now, if someone would just rewrite those scripts for SFC OP!    

I was actually refering to the original post saying that this game did not need a patch. (Well actually maybe it do not need a patch, a complete rewrite would perhaps be more appropriate but anyway...)  

[grave]

never did understand all this hype about errors and crahses, bugs and problems.... i run the game on and old 500mzh system but i have verry few problems with the game and think that it works fine even though it does CTD some times (most games do on my system)
 i still enjoy playing this game and like being able to walk through the defualtcore.txt and change all the ships and wepons and what not i can install some wondful MOD's and play them(kudo's to the makers of those mods)
so all in all i am satisfyed with the game as is. though when we do get a non beta patch im almost certen(willing to take bets that someone will STILL complain of how this or that isnt working right or something has disrupted the precious BALLANCE)
well now that ive said that back to the OOOHHH weres the patch debate.

[rmahannah]

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First you state that a patch is not needed, then you say that you have waited too long for a patch.

Either a patch is not needed because the modders have fixed everything, or a patch is needed  (it has been a long while) and you are just trolling. Which is it?  

Been away a couple of days...  Had other things in "life" going on.  Let's play on words shall we...  I said "we" as in "we" the members of this forum have been waiting, which I notice that I have been around longer than you.  No, I may not have as many posts, but never the less, I do care.  All I was "attempting" to say was that for "me" my "opinion" is that with all the legal issues going on, if there ended up not being a patch, the modders have fixed many things and expanded on many ideas, that have already taken the game past the developers intentions for it.  The game plays fine for me.   "Troller" no.  Entitled to my opinion?  Yes!!  As you may have noticed there are a lot of opinions, and speculation on this forum, and much less fact that you may realize...  Sorry if I offended all you die hards.  This is just a game, and no disrespect to the developers was intended, as I notice Dave had a response too.  That's all I have to say about that... Next!!!  

[rmahannah]

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  Naw,

TNZ is great, and a credit to both the modders and Taldren for making such a modable game.

Another patch would be great, but I must say that you did a relatively good job on the last one and that the game is mostly playable. One player found it SO good, he thought that someone else must have fixed it because of all of the problems he felt were solved. So I think that this thread is just an underhanded way of saying 'Way to go, Taldren. Keep up the good work, though at this rate you almost needn't you're doing such a fine job'

Or at least, that's how we should all take it, because we have a very uninformed poster at the helm.

Alexander  

Uninformed poster??  Underhanded??  I don't recall saying all the problems were fixed...  I don't recall intending to slam Taldren.  After all, by purchasing this product I am showing support, right???  Hmmm.  I just said it doesn't need another patch in my "opinion".  

[Demandred]

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  Naw,

TNZ is great, and a credit to both the modders and Taldren for making such a modable game.

Another patch would be great, but I must say that you did a relatively good job on the last one and that the game is mostly playable. One player found it SO good, he thought that someone else must have fixed it because of all of the problems he felt were solved. So I think that this thread is just an underhanded way of saying 'Way to go, Taldren. Keep up the good work, though at this rate you almost needn't you're doing such a fine job'

Or at least, that's how we should all take it, because we have a very uninformed poster at the helm.

Alexander  

Uninformed poster??  Underhanded??  I don't recall saying all the problems were fixed...  I don't recall intending to slam Taldren.  After all, by purchasing this product I am showing support, right???  Hmmm.  I just said it doesn't need another patch in my "opinion".  

Excellent. Since resources will no longer be needed on SFC3, it should take no time at all to mop up the last few OP problems. Actually, since you now have time on your hands Dave, how about revisiting the plasma bolt and offensive plasma D suggestions while you are at it?      

[NannerSlug]

 

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 Since resources will no longer be needed on SFC3, it should take no time at all to mop up the last few OP problems.

the "real" reason for the post.

btw, there might be 1 true issue left with op - the rest is nothing more than wants and added features. maybe if i use the same tactics ill get a few things added to sfc3 while its in the process of being "patched."

do you realize how long its been and sfc3 has not even recieved an official patch of any kind what so ever. lets put sfc2 or even op in the same boat and see how they fair.

its not that the remaining issue(s) with any game does not need to be addressed - its simply frustration on my personal part with the lack of official movment on the sfc3 patch. mind you we are talking about a single patch - let alone the number of patches the other sfcs have recieved. anyone see a lack of fairness here? Thank goodness for korah and pelican as they try to fill the gap.

thankfully, from the looks of it, there might be hope for some sort of an sfc3 patch in the coming future.. again, we are talking about the hope for a single patch... anyone see this as odd when comparing it to the other games?

[rmahannah]

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 Since resources will no longer be needed on SFC3, it should take no time at all to mop up the last few OP problems.

the "real" reason for the post.

btw, there might be 1 true issue left with op - the rest is nothing more than wants and added features. maybe if i use the same tactics ill get a few things added to sfc3 while its in the process of being "patched."

do you realize how long its been and sfc3 has not even recieved an official patch of any kind what so ever. lets put sfc2 or even op in the same boat and see how they fair.

its not that the remaining issue(s) with any game does not need to be addressed - its simply frustration on my personal part with the lack of official movment on the sfc3 patch. mind you we are talking about a single patch - let alone the number of patches the other sfcs have recieved. anyone see a lack of fairness here? Thank goodness for korah and pelican as they try to fill the gap.

thankfully, from the looks of it, there might be hope for some sort of an sfc3 patch in the coming future.. again, we are talking about the hope for a single patch... anyone see this as odd when comparing it to the other games?  

Good Points!  I was just trying to convey my sense of abandonment concerning the game itself, and the fact that I am not having any problems. The game has excellent potential, as the Modders have shown.  However,  I appear to have offended some on this subject...  

[NannerSlug]

if your post was truly just that, then dont worry about it. many folks (including my self) feel that the game (as all trek games) have been abandon because of the lawsuit - if not before then as there might have been a ramp up/delay leading into it. i just do not know and cannot tell.. i just simply wish  - well.. dream at this point - that there will be an official patch.

on the upside.. sfc3 is more stable of a product than 2 or op out of the box - thus helping somewhat and allowing modders some flexibility.

[Toasty0]

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btw, there might be 1 true issue left with op - the rest is nothing more than wants and added features.

Nanner,

C'mon, bro, you know that is incorrect.

Best,
Jerry  

[Demandred]

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 Since resources will no longer be needed on SFC3, it should take no time at all to mop up the last few OP problems.

the "real" reason for the post.

btw, there might be 1 true issue left with op - the rest is nothing more than wants and added features. maybe if i use the same tactics ill get a few things added to sfc3 while its in the process of being "patched."

do you realize how long its been and sfc3 has not even recieved an official patch of any kind what so ever. lets put sfc2 or even op in the same boat and see how they fair.

its not that the remaining issue(s) with any game does not need to be addressed - its simply frustration on my personal part with the lack of official movment on the sfc3 patch. mind you we are talking about a single patch - let alone the number of patches the other sfcs have recieved. anyone see a lack of fairness here? Thank goodness for korah and pelican as they try to fill the gap.

thankfully, from the looks of it, there might be hope for some sort of an sfc3 patch in the coming future.. again, we are talking about the hope for a single patch... anyone see this as odd when comparing it to the other games?  

Jesus, give it a rest for once Nanner. Note the two emoticons at the end of my post and don't quote me out of context. No, I don't see it as odd, Interplay let Taldren patch as they pleased for earlier games while Activision keeps patches on a tight leash. I'm happy with the way OP is, though a little more would be nice. Let me repeat in case you didn't understand, I AM HAPPY WITH THE WAY OP IS. There is no conspiracy against SFC3 players or SFC3 itself, I was simply joking around. Anyone that has not undergone the patented Nanner "sense of humour bypass" and "paranoia enlargement" operations would not have exploded. Hell, I'm fairly sure my dog would get it.