Topic: No Need For A SFC3 Final Patch...

[rmahannah]

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Then just take away our first ammendment right and shut down the forum...

I blame you for my 8th grade social science teacher near demise from uncontrolled  laughter after he read your above quoted posting.

And my American History Prof...well, let us not talk about the all the cutlery I had to hide from her.

And the polisci prof...poor soul. I could not stop them all.



Toasty0    

and your point is???  

Learn the alphabet before you try to spell words...  

Aye, Aye there ActiveX!!  I suppose you have never made a typo, right??  Speak for yourself, not others...  

That went lightyears over your head...  

right...  

Does anyone else feel like they're getting sucked into a black hole (in more ways than one) here?    

Yeah, some people just like to argue...  That's why the divorce rate in this country is 50%, probably more...  When you stop arguing, they go away...  

[**DONOTDELETE**]

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This is in response to Crimick on the SFC 1 issue and patches...

Fact of the matter is this.. before Taldren was Taldren, they were 14  Degrees East. 14 Degrees East was an Internal game making section of interplay.. they partnered with Quicksilver Software for coding with the game... however, when 14 Degrees East disbanded, and formed Taldren.. and since the Contracts were internal.. support for SFC 1 went with it... Thus the 1.03 patch being final release allowed by Interplay, however it is still Unofficial according to Interplay... as it was created before 14 Degrees East disbanded, but released after Taldren formed... then out came SFC 2 with good graces between Taldren and Interplay... things didn't get bad until the Trek Liscense went up into the air and Activision bought them all.. but that's a different story.

Hopefully, maybe 1 day with David Ferrell being really nice, release an Unofficial 1.04 SFC 1 patch if he still has the game code or access to it.. I would really like to see the fix on the R-KCR for the ungodly power that it has... maybe drop it's power by at least 10.

but that is wishful thinking.. I still enjoy SFC 1...

and for anyone wanting to get SFC 1 working on XP again for both GSA and Single Player.. visit my SFC 1 web page at

http://www.nightsoftware.com/effhq/sfc12.html

thanks


 

Uh...I know all that....I been around since 1.01....I was on the interplay boards...and I'm aware that 1.02 is the last "official" patch for SFC1 and I know who Chris Taylor is...

I been around long enough to have foolishly argued  against half shield values in 1.03....I thought it would kill the game .... I argued that SFC was NOT SFB over and over and could be different in play and scope....silly me...

I was luckey enough to have befriended Dennis Greene and been part of testing SFC2....

I also like SFC1...heh..it was my first addiction.... ...I wish someone would replicate the SFC1 missions and campaigns for OP....

My counter point is that BOTH Nanner and I know who is responsible for the current state of SFC3....pissing and moaning wont get Taldren to release a patch they could get sued over...it has to go through Activision...and you know that too...

His sour grapes about OP getting patched before SFC3 has been patched means nothing and changes nothing....it only fuels discontent tword Taldren....He asked "what would the average person think"?....

Well...what does the average person think when they see a known "beta tester" say things like "there may be 1 bug left....the rest are wants and features"....

This implies that testers are trying to drag out OP fixes...excuse me...wants and features....and are in some way responsible for the SFC3 patch delay....when in reality the testers are trying to get evry bug fixed possible before OP joins SFC1 and SFC2 on the "done" shelf....

Statements like "no movement" imply that there are no fixes being done for SFC3....and that  no current testing of those fixes for SFC3 is being done....BOTH things are blantent falsehoods....and he is in the position to KNOW the truth...

I'm trying to offer a valid counter arguement without using restricted infomation....NDA prevents me from sheding more light on the situation.....Lets just say(for people NOT in the loop)...there is more to this story than meets the eye....

I am 100% certain that SFC3 will get patched....The "when" part is another matter.....

And yes...I would say that the odds of SFC1 getting another patch are around the same odds of SFC2 getting another patch....not enitirely impossible....but highly unlikely....


 

[vsfedwards]

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Then just take away our first ammendment right and shut down the forum...

I blame you for my 8th grade social science teacher near demise from uncontrolled  laughter after he read your above quoted posting.

And my American History Prof...well, let us not talk about the all the cutlery I had to hide from her.

And the polisci prof...poor soul. I could not stop them all.



Toasty0    

and your point is???  

Learn the alphabet before you try to spell words...  

Aye, Aye there ActiveX!!  I suppose you have never made a typo, right??  Speak for yourself, not others...  

That went lightyears over your head...  

right...  

Does anyone else feel like they're getting sucked into a black hole (in more ways than one) here?    

Yeah, some people just like to argue...  That's why the divorce rate in this country is 50%, probably more...  When you stop arguing, they go away...  

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Edited because i double posted.

PATCH NEEDED FOR: SFC1 SFC2:op +  SFC3 - I wonder how many people are going to argue with me on that point.

[ActiveX]

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Then just take away our first ammendment right and shut down the forum...

I blame you for my 8th grade social science teacher near demise from uncontrolled  laughter after he read your above quoted posting.

And my American History Prof...well, let us not talk about the all the cutlery I had to hide from her.

And the polisci prof...poor soul. I could not stop them all.



Toasty0    

and your point is???  

Learn the alphabet before you try to spell words...  

Aye, Aye there ActiveX!!  I suppose you have never made a typo, right??  Speak for yourself, not others...  

That went lightyears over your head...  

right...  

Does anyone else feel like they're getting sucked into a black hole (in more ways than one) here?    

Yeah, some people just like to argue...  That's why the divorce rate in this country is 50%, probably more...  When you stop arguing, they go away...  

Yes they do...

[rmahannah]

With all the great MODS that are out for the game, what is a final patch going to do for the game now???  I doubt the game developers are going to be able to top the MOD developers as far as new ideas, not to mention the fact that they won't have the time to even try..  

[Cleaven]

I didn't realise modders were also fixing game bugs. How are they doing that?  

[ActiveX]

We illegally hacked into SFC3's .gf files and looked at the code...

Then we ordered a pizza and went to play OP...

[rmahannah]

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I didn't realise modders were also fixing game bugs. How are they doing that?  

I sure haven't had any issues with bugs using the TNZ MOD...  Single Player campaigns work fine.  

[ActiveX]

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I didn't realise modders were also fixing game bugs. How are they doing that?  

I sure haven't had any issues with bugs using the TNZ MOD...  Single Player campaigns work fine.  

The TNZ Mod in SP...

Since most bugs are in MP after the Beta Patch, that means little...

[rmahannah]

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I didn't realise modders were also fixing game bugs. How are they doing that?  

I sure haven't had any issues with bugs using the TNZ MOD...  Single Player campaigns work fine.  

The TNZ Mod in SP...

Since most bugs are in MP after the Beta Patch, that means little...  

I play online (multiplayer) with my brother all the time with no problems, so I guess that means a lot to me...  

[ActiveX]

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I didn't realise modders were also fixing game bugs. How are they doing that?  

I sure haven't had any issues with bugs using the TNZ MOD...  Single Player campaigns work fine.  

The TNZ Mod in SP...

Since most bugs are in MP after the Beta Patch, that means little...  

I play online (multiplayer) with my brother all the time with no problems, so I guess that means a lot to me...  

And you have never experienced a server crash?

Or the jerkiness bug that hurts Klingons hardest?

[rmahannah]

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I didn't realise modders were also fixing game bugs. How are they doing that?  

I sure haven't had any issues with bugs using the TNZ MOD...  Single Player campaigns work fine.  

The TNZ Mod in SP...

Since most bugs are in MP after the Beta Patch, that means little...  

I play online (multiplayer) with my brother all the time with no problems, so I guess that means a lot to me...  

And you have never experienced a server crash?

Or the jerkiness bug that hurts Klingons hardest?  

We have played on servers, but mostly TCP/IP games.  We haven't had any problems...  

[ActiveX]

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I didn't realise modders were also fixing game bugs. How are they doing that?  

I sure haven't had any issues with bugs using the TNZ MOD...  Single Player campaigns work fine.  

The TNZ Mod in SP...

Since most bugs are in MP after the Beta Patch, that means little...  

I play online (multiplayer) with my brother all the time with no problems, so I guess that means a lot to me...  

And you have never experienced a server crash?

Or the jerkiness bug that hurts Klingons hardest?  

We have played on servers, but mostly TCP/IP games.  We haven't had any problems...  

Ah GSA, those are no fun...

[rmahannah]

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I didn't realise modders were also fixing game bugs. How are they doing that?  

I sure haven't had any issues with bugs using the TNZ MOD...  Single Player campaigns work fine.  

The TNZ Mod in SP...

Since most bugs are in MP after the Beta Patch, that means little...  

I play online (multiplayer) with my brother all the time with no problems, so I guess that means a lot to me...  

And you have never experienced a server crash?

Or the jerkiness bug that hurts Klingons hardest?  

We have played on servers, but mostly TCP/IP games.  We haven't had any problems...  

Ah GSA, those are no fun...  

No GSA, just direct TCP/IP between cable modems.  Don't really have the time to get involved in a big online campaign...  

[Cleaven]

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I didn't realise modders were also fixing game bugs. How are they doing that?  

I sure haven't had any issues with bugs using the TNZ MOD...  Single Player campaigns work fine.  

Activision and Taldren will be pleased to hear that.

And also the deluded souls who keep asking for a patch. Silly of them not to see that no further work is required. You will drop Activision a line and let them know?  

[rmahannah]

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I didn't realise modders were also fixing game bugs. How are they doing that?  

I sure haven't had any issues with bugs using the TNZ MOD...  Single Player campaigns work fine.  

Activision and Taldren will be pleased to hear that.

And also the deluded souls who keep asking for a patch. Silly of them not to see that no further work is required. You will drop Activision a line and let them know?  

I really doubt they would care...  I'm pretty sure the ball got dropped on that one.  

[rmahannah]

Seriously...  Have we had to wait this long for a patch before???  Obviously it is not a high priority.  

[Cleaven]

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Seriously...  Have we had to wait this long for a patch before???  Obviously it is not a high priority.  

So -  a patch is needed then?  

[rmahannah]

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Seriously...  Have we had to wait this long for a patch before???  Obviously it is not a high priority.  

So -  a patch is needed then?  

That's not what I said....  Perhaps you are in the mood for a disagreement???