Topic: Trouble playing OP , again. (Read 6570 times)

vsfedwards · « **Reply #40 on:** August 21, 2003, 08:06:07 am »

grab the geforce 4 - much cheaper and a real good g.card - i have it and have not had a problem playing one game, including splinter cell

Mackie · « **Reply #41 on:** August 21, 2003, 08:20:59 am »

Thanks, ill see about the colours.
I used to have a GF4 but IMHO it was quite a crappy card with a bad image quality so i switched over to ATI, every game has worked pretty well this far unlike with GF4. Ive had ATI cards since Rage chipset, others arent anything in comparison ;]

vsfedwards · « **Reply #42 on:** August 21, 2003, 08:23:37 am »

what mb was the card? i possess 128mb gf4

Mackie · « **Reply #43 on:** August 21, 2003, 08:28:32 am »

Hm. switching the colours to 16bit didnt help, its as tacky as ever.

...but you were right about least one thing; its the drivers. most likely since software mode works well (uh well as it can work but not quite

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FireSoul · « **Reply #44 on:** August 21, 2003, 09:38:33 am »

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Hm. switching the colours to 16bit didnt help, its as tacky as ever.

...but you were right about least one thing; its the drivers. most likely since software mode works well (uh well as it can work but not quite )

That's a definite confirmation right there.

Dogmatix! · « **Reply #46 on:** August 21, 2003, 12:43:59 pm »

Heh...here we go again with the "ditch the ATI and get an nVidia....."

My system (which runs EVERYTHING, including all SFC titles just fine):

Athlon XP 2700+ (Thermalright SLK-800/Vantec Tornado HSF, 12x195)
Asus A7N8X-Deluxe (1002A1 SATA "Uber" BIOS)
1024 MB (2x512 MB) Corsair XMS PC3200C2
Sapphire Radeon Atlantis 9700 Pro (Cat. 3.4, slightly overclocked)
ViewSonic VX900 19" LCD
80GB Maxtor (7200 RPM/ATA133)
Logitech MX-700 wireless mouse
Windows XP Pro

It should be noted that the SFC titles also ran just fine on my older Athlon T-bird 1.3 ghz system with an ATI Radeon 8500 and the very first Cat drivers. They have, in fact, worked with every ATI driver I have ever used. I'll even switch to Cat 3.6 tonight and log right into the OP dyna and play just fine.

I'm not sure exactly what's Makie's particular problem is, but it ISN'T his video card or his drivers as long as both are in good working order and installed properly.

Let's not act like nVidia cards don't have their share of problems. Mackie has one of the absolute best cards available on the market right now, even better that some of these nVidia's out now that are a generation newer. Unless there is something wrong with his installation or the video card hardware itself, it isn't his card.

Just my two cents...

Dogmatix! · « **Reply #48 on:** August 21, 2003, 12:58:35 pm »

It would not surprise me at all if your integrated sound is causing the problem. I have heard of some problems with that in the past, though I am using the integrated sound on my motherboard without any issues whatsoever. Granted..we have different motherboards and processor brands.

I assume you have either uninstalled and reinstalled Cat 3.6 and/or have tried reverting back to an earlier version, just in case it's the driver installation itself? (which, guess what..happens with nVidia drivers, too... :rolleyes:)

Mackie · « **Reply #49 on:** August 21, 2003, 01:26:47 pm »

reinstalled yeah, rolling back is too much trouble.

Bonk · « **Reply #50 on:** August 21, 2003, 01:43:17 pm »

I have read about a number of cases where the mainboard's agp settings can produce these kind of effects. Maybe check for a mainboard bios update or tweak the agp settings or driver settings?

Stuff like: ASUS P4G8X and Radeon 9700 Pro

I could not find your mainboard (P4533se) at the asus website for info...

Mackie · « **Reply #51 on:** August 21, 2003, 01:46:51 pm »

sounds too familiar :/
ill try it with 2x and 1x
thanks

Bonk · « **Reply #52 on:** August 21, 2003, 02:09:27 pm »

Earlier in that thread others have had success by reinstalling XP without using the chipset drivers from intel/asus. Another possibility is interefence from the Intel Application Accelerator, if installed try uninstalling it. It would be a shame to have to use an 8x card at lower speeds. Others there have cured the problem by ensuring that the settings in the ATI control panel match those in the bios and some solved their problems by installing a mainboard bios update. That card should rock... good luck, I hope you get it worked out.

Mackie · « **Reply #53 on:** August 21, 2003, 02:20:20 pm »

well it does seem to lessen the "tackyness" a little , playing at 2x, but thats the lowest this mobo goes really :/

Dogmatix! · « **Reply #54 on:** August 21, 2003, 03:32:06 pm »

I have another fix to try that's trying hard to not be remembered by me at the moment...I hope I can pull it out of my grey matter in time to be useful. Maybe when I get home tonight, looking at my settings will jog my memory.

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #56 on:** August 21, 2003, 07:32:46 pm »

It's not an inherent ATI problem. I have an 8500/128 and every game I own runs fine. This includes all the SFCs from 1 to 3. As far as the drivers having Micro$oft's blessings, every driver that I've ever gotten from ATI is windows XP certified except for the very first DX9 driver that was released the same day as DX9. I'm assuming that was because there wasn't enough time to get it certified but ATI wanted their customers to have up to date DX9 drivers so they could enjoy the benefits of their 9000 series cards with it.

Trust those of us with 1st hand experience with ATI cards. It's a bit more reliable than "a friend of a friend" info. No offense intended, but ATI cards work just fine in my experience.

Mackie · « **Reply #58 on:** August 23, 2003, 06:48:56 pm »

omg i was able to play for 10 min before it started again

Cpt. Chaos · « **Reply #59 on:** August 25, 2003, 08:46:41 am »

Just as an experiment, I would try going in the BIOS and disabling the sound all together, and see what effect that has on the problem... Being an ASUS, you should also have a physical jumper somewhere to disable the sound also, in case the BIOS switch doesn't do anything... I seem to remember SB Live cards messing with several games, though that's just a vague impression. If that solves the problem, then just leave it off and put in an actual sound card. I have successfully run an ATI 8500/64, Catylist drivers, with a Creative Audigy sound card on an ASUS P4T533C, and had no problems with SFC3

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