Topic: Trouble playing OP , again.  (Read 6353 times)

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Mackie

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Trouble playing OP , again.
« on: August 20, 2003, 12:51:54 pm »
Menus run fine, etc.
 but when i get ingame its like;
2sec play.... 2 sec stop... 2sec play.... 2 sec stop... 2sec play.... 2 sec stop... 2sec play.... 2 sec stop... 2sec play.... 2 sec stop... 2sec play.... 2 sec stop... 2sec play.... 2 sec stop... 2sec play.... 2 sec stop...

system specs:
ATI radeon 9700 pro
2.2 ghz Intel NW p4
Asus P4533se (iirc)
Integrated SB live (iirc)
512mb ddr
Direct-X 9.0b

And I have the latest patch.

Mackie

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Re: Trouble playing OP , again.
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2003, 02:38:03 pm »
3.6's = latest.
and no , no other apps running (not even teh explorer)

Mackie

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Re: Trouble playing OP , again.
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2003, 11:44:16 pm »
can this be solved at all?

vsfedwards

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Re: Trouble playing OP , again.
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2003, 07:23:05 am »
oooo errrr, how long has this been going on..forever?

how much ram u have?

...try a fresh install  

Pestalence

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Re: Trouble playing OP , again.
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2003, 07:37:45 am »
Since you are using a Radeon card, you won't be able to run the game in 32 bit color mode.. reduce it to 16 bit desktop color...

if that doesn't help, get the catalist 2.6 drivers.. those work well with SFC.

if you want problem free running og games on PC without having to play match maker with drivers to games, get rid of the ATI and get the GeForce FX 5900 Ultra with 128MB DDR onboard.. Crystal gaming there and all the drivers are WHQL to work.

Radeon has driver problems between games.. such as I have a friend that needs 5 different drivers to play 12 different games....

however, i have always run NVidia GeForce cards and never had a driver problem so long as I only got the WHQL drivers.. on the FX card, all the drivers are WHQL, so no worries there.. And with SFC III - Geforce will run it in 32 bit color, Radeon can't, unless they improved their drivers since last march.

I bet that the problem is your Graphics driver... the Catalist 2.6 I know will work for SFC III, maybe not any other game, but it will with SFC III, however, you will still have to run the game in 16 bit color..

Hope that this info helps.
 

vsfedwards

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Re: Trouble playing OP , again.
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2003, 08:06:07 am »
grab the geforce 4 - much cheaper and a real good g.card - i have it and have not had a problem playing one game, including splinter cell  

Mackie

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Re: Trouble playing OP , again.
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2003, 08:20:59 am »
Thanks, ill see about the colours.
I used to have a GF4 but IMHO it was quite a crappy card with a bad image quality so i switched over to ATI, every game has worked pretty well this far unlike with GF4. Ive had ATI cards since Rage chipset, others arent anything in comparison ;]

vsfedwards

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Re: Trouble playing OP , again.
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2003, 08:23:37 am »
what mb was the card? i possess 128mb gf4  

Mackie

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Re: Trouble playing OP , again.
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2003, 08:28:32 am »
Hm. switching the colours to 16bit didnt help, its as tacky as ever.

...but you were right about least one thing; its the drivers. most likely since software mode works well (uh well as it can work but not quite )  

FireSoul

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Re: Trouble playing OP , again.
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2003, 09:38:33 am »
Quote:

Hm. switching the colours to 16bit didnt help, its as tacky as ever.

...but you were right about least one thing; its the drivers. most likely since software mode works well (uh well as it can work but not quite )  




That's a definite confirmation right there.

Mackie

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Re: Trouble playing OP , again.
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2003, 10:11:19 am »
Quote:

Quote:

Hm. switching the colours to 16bit didnt help, its as tacky as ever.

...but you were right about least one thing; its the drivers. most likely since software mode works well (uh well as it can work but not quite )  




That's a definite confirmation right there.  




its not exactly a big problem because i need this card mainly for my work with graphics, i dont play much...

Dogmatix!

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Re: Trouble playing OP , again.
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2003, 12:43:59 pm »
Heh...here we go again with the "ditch the ATI and get an nVidia....."


My system (which runs EVERYTHING, including all SFC titles just fine):


Athlon XP 2700+  (Thermalright SLK-800/Vantec Tornado HSF, 12x195)
Asus A7N8X-Deluxe (1002A1 SATA "Uber" BIOS)
1024 MB (2x512 MB) Corsair XMS PC3200C2
Sapphire Radeon Atlantis 9700 Pro (Cat. 3.4, slightly overclocked)
ViewSonic VX900 19" LCD
80GB Maxtor (7200 RPM/ATA133)
Logitech MX-700 wireless mouse
Windows XP Pro


It should be noted that the SFC titles also ran just fine on my older Athlon T-bird 1.3 ghz system with an ATI Radeon 8500 and the very first Cat drivers.  They have, in fact, worked with every ATI driver I have ever used.  I'll even switch to Cat 3.6 tonight and log right into the OP dyna and play just fine.


I'm not sure exactly what's Makie's particular problem is, but it ISN'T his video card or his drivers as long as both are in good working order and installed properly.


Let's not act like nVidia cards don't have their share of problems.  Mackie has one of the absolute best cards available on the market right now, even better that some of these nVidia's out now that are a generation newer.  Unless there is something wrong with his installation or the video card hardware itself, it isn't his card.


Just my two cents...


 
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Mackie

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Re: Trouble playing OP , again.
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2003, 12:47:05 pm »
Quote:

Heh...here we go again with the "ditch the ATI and get an nVidia....."


My system (which runs EVERYTHING, including all SFC titles just fine):


Athlon XP 2700+  (Thermalright SLK-800/Vantec Tornado HSF, 12x195)
Asus A7N8X-Deluxe (1002A1 SATA "Uber" BIOS)
1024 MB (2x512 MB) Corsair XMS PC3200C2
Sapphire Radeon Atlantis 9700 Pro (Cat. 3.4, slightly overclocked)
ViewSonic VX900 19" LCD
80GB Maxtor (7200 RPM/ATA133)
Logitech MX-700 wireless mouse
Windows XP Pro


It should be noted that the SFC titles also ran just fine on my older Athlon T-bird 1.3 ghz system with an ATI Radeon 8500 and the very first Cat drivers.  They have, in fact, worked with every ATI driver I have ever used.  I'll even swtich to Cat 3.6 tonight and log right into the OP dyna and play just fine.


I'm not sure exactly what's Makie's particular problem is, but it ISN'T his video card or his drivers as long as both are in good working order and installed properly.


Let's not act like nVidia cards don't have their share of problems.  Mackie has one of the absolute best cards available on the market right now, even better that some of these nVidia's out now that are a generation newer.  Unless there is soemthign wrong with his installation or the video card hardware itself, it isn't his card.


Just my two cents...


 




thank you, for defending us from the rabid Nvidia fanboys   (jk)

i also have my doubts about the integrated soundcard interfering somehow with the vid card... ive had some issues with it earlier...
(I sold my sb live plat. set for 3 x 1.5l of 60% liquor )
« Last Edit: August 21, 2003, 12:47:29 pm by Mackie »

Dogmatix!

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Re: Trouble playing OP , again.
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2003, 12:58:35 pm »
It would not surprise me at all if your integrated sound is causing the problem.  I have heard of some problems with that in the past, though I am using the integrated sound on my motherboard without any issues whatsoever.  Granted..we have different motherboards and processor brands.


I assume you have either uninstalled and reinstalled Cat 3.6 and/or have tried reverting back to an earlier version, just in case it's the driver installation itself?  (which, guess what..happens with nVidia drivers, too...  :rolleyes:)



 

Mackie

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Re: Trouble playing OP , again.
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2003, 01:26:47 pm »
reinstalled yeah, rolling back is too much trouble.  

Bonk

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Re: Trouble playing OP , again.
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2003, 01:43:17 pm »
I have read about a number of cases where the mainboard's agp settings can produce these kind of effects. Maybe check for a mainboard bios update or tweak the agp settings or driver settings?

Stuff like:  ASUS P4G8X and Radeon 9700 Pro

I could not find your mainboard (P4533se) at the asus website for info...  

Mackie

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Re: Trouble playing OP , again.
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2003, 01:46:51 pm »
sounds too familiar :/
ill try it with 2x and 1x
thanks

Bonk

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Re: Trouble playing OP , again.
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2003, 02:09:27 pm »
Earlier in that thread others have had success by reinstalling XP without using the chipset drivers from intel/asus. Another possibility is interefence from the Intel Application Accelerator, if installed try uninstalling it.  It would be a shame to have to use an 8x card at lower speeds. Others there have cured the problem by ensuring that the settings in the ATI control panel match those in the bios and some solved their problems by installing a mainboard bios update.  That card should rock... good luck, I hope you get it worked out.    

Mackie

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Re: Trouble playing OP , again.
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2003, 02:20:20 pm »
well it does seem to lessen the "tackyness" a little , playing at 2x, but thats the lowest this mobo goes really :/

Dogmatix!

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Re: Trouble playing OP , again.
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2003, 03:32:06 pm »
I have another fix to try that's trying hard to not be remembered by me at the moment...I hope I can pull it out of my grey matter in time to be useful.  Maybe when I get home tonight, looking at my settings will jog my memory.



 
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