Topic: reliant question

[DonKarnage]

i have view pics of the reliant from startrek 2 the warth of khan and it seem there a torpedo tupe under the hull??, can anyone confirm it???? http://members.aol.com/IDICPage2/GemKirk115.html

[Storvick]

that area under the hull is part of the sensor package not a weapons package

[Atrahasis]

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i have view pics of the reliant from startrek 2 the warth of khan and it seem there a torpedo tupe under the hull??, can anyone confirm it???? http://members.aol.com/IDICPage2/GemKirk115.html  

That's a very astute and interesting observation. You are correct that that part of the ship is different from the same part as found on the Enteprise. On the E there is only one large rectangular light right smakc-dab in the middle, but on the Reliant there are actually two smaller round lights to the sides, leaving that middle space with something else.

What is it exactly? Just a greebly or something else? The mind reels. But thank you for pointing that detail out.  

[Rogue]

Wow, interesting pic. I have just discovered that the Reliant was piloted by two cabbage patch kids. Big ones! They are right there on those two symetrical structures I never knew what were at the back of the saucer before it gets the upper rear decks. Who wudda thunk it. Now that I've seen it I'll never see it the same way again. You know, like the rubber ducky icon on the MFD in engineering on Enterprise from TNG. It's a little frightening that I am aware of that.  

[Chrystoff]

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i have view pics of the reliant from startrek 2 the warth of khan and it seem there a torpedo tupe under the hull??, can anyone confirm it???? http://members.aol.com/IDICPage2/GemKirk115.html  

According to most of my reference material, including my Mastercom Data books, is is described as a "lower sensor platform." They are not weapons.  

[ActiveX]

Sensor platform is correct, the Reliant is primarily a survey vessel as witnessed in the first part of TWoK...

[Atrahasis]

It's probably not a weapon, especically a torp tube, because it's a bit too small for that. But then again the TOS Connie had tiny hardpoints.

The Reliant may have been used in a surveyor role, but then so was the Excelsior in STVI.  

[ActiveX]

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It's probably not a weapon, especically a torp tube, because it's a bit too small for that. But then again the TOS Connie had tiny hardpoints.

The Reliant may have been used in a surveyor role, but then so was the Excelsior in STVI.  

Yep, but Miranda class vessels had to be equipped mission specific if I remember correctly. Excelsior was the first fully equipped starship if Im not mistaken...

[Atrahasis]

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It's probably not a weapon, especically a torp tube, because it's a bit too small for that. But then again the TOS Connie had tiny hardpoints.

The Reliant may have been used in a surveyor role, but then so was the Excelsior in STVI.  

Yep, but Miranda class vessels had to be equipped mission specific if I remember correctly. Excelsior was the first fully equipped starship if Im not mistaken...  

This was never said anywhere in canon, it might be some kind of background info though. More likely these ships can be used in the survey role as well as a warship role with no changes, in line with Gene's original vision of peaceful explorers who could defend themselves if they had to.  

[ActiveX]

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It's probably not a weapon, especically a torp tube, because it's a bit too small for that. But then again the TOS Connie had tiny hardpoints.

The Reliant may have been used in a surveyor role, but then so was the Excelsior in STVI.  

Yep, but Miranda class vessels had to be equipped mission specific if I remember correctly. Excelsior was the first fully equipped starship if Im not mistaken...  

This was never said anywhere in canon, it might be some kind of background info though. More likely these ships can be used in the survey role as well as a warship role with no changes, in line with Gene's original vision of peaceful explorers who could defend themselves if they had to.  

Right, thus why Reliant was such a pain to the Heavy Cruiser Connie...

Then there are the variants...

I'm sure there is a website on this somewhere...hehe...

[Reverend]

Now, not to telll anyone to quell their excitement, but think of it this way. Okay, Starfleet had kept the peace for 100 years, Dr. Marcus said. I figure, now, opinion only my friends, that ANY Starfleet vessel, especially in times of peace, is going to have all sorts of extraneous missions to do... willy-nilly stuff, and I bet dollar to dime that those guys would get pretty bored, as they only very rarely would have seen combat... ANY Starfleet vessel is going to have a lot of everything (keeping in mind size classes, mass or even monetary restrictions), so that it could represent Starfleet the best it could- being ready for anything.... which I mean that I wouldn't expect a courier class to be ready to take on a Klink Dreadnaught any ol' day, just that a Starfleet vessel is going to be armed as much as possible, and going to have decent sensors, etc. etc., so that it could be.. well.. ready for anything to occur, adn do its best to attempt to deal with said situation.
Does this do any good?  

[nx_adam_1701]

Then explain Wolf359, phasers were fire from that location on the Saratoga, ok its not the reliant but its a miranda class or a sub miranda class, and talking about torpedos, since the Saratoga didnt have torpedos on top where the standard mirnadas have it why the hell does the captian say arm photons torpedos, ready phasers, people say that the torpedos are in the back, can someone point that out on a picture, or take a screeshot and show me, because the saratoga I got has no photon torpedo bays

adam out

[Atrahasis]

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Then explain Wolf359, phasers were fire from that location on the Saratoga, ok its not the reliant but its a miranda class or a sub miranda class, and talking about torpedos, since the Saratoga didnt have torpedos on top where the standard mirnadas have it why the hell does the captian say arm photons torpedos, ready phasers, people say that the torpedos are in the back, can someone point that out on a picture, or take a screeshot and show me, because the saratoga I got has no photon torpedo bays

adam out  

Excellent points! The Saratoga-Miranda needs places for photons, presumably firing fwd otherwise there's no point in having photons. They couldn;t possibly fire from those stupid radar-dish thingies on the sides, there's nothing like a torp launcher there anywehere. Also you're correct that the main phaser (TNG style, not pulse style like in TWOK I might add) fired from the lower sensor area.

But then again, in the TNG episode "Darmok" the Enterprise fires a phaser beam form the fwd torpedo bay, so sometimes screw-ups happen because the FX guys can be clueless.

But that the Saratoga-Miranda has torps is an interesting detail. Maybe the torps it has are not those large honking 2-meter long casings but smaller slimmer ones that can fire from a new location. They'd be less powerful than the ones on a Galaxy-class ship of course. And the "sensor" area is the best candidate I've seen for a location for such weaponry. It's either that or the dishy-things at the sides.  

[nx_adam_1701]

Well thank you sir, those dishy things lol lol if you look real close cant fire torps, i seen it like 20x and i have zoomed in, there defintely for phasers, a while back someone did mention that the torpedo bays are aft, and i said what thats crazy, they have a huge close up scene when they evacuate the ship, only2  shuttle bays and debris, no torpedo bays, but you know what it mostly likely was an error, in the part of the people who write the stuff, its natural too say red alert arm torpedo bays, and ready phasers, i know for a fact that the lantree and saratoga dont have photon torpedos, its just a mistake, unless they transport the torpedos in front of moving ships, lol

adam out

But there is a phaser at the sensor location, i made it in my mod, funny place to be, dont see a whole there but .......

Im done, going a bed, im too tired lol

[MajorRacal]

Is it at all possible, these smaller 'firing points' are for launching probes?  

[Atrahasis]

I would really like to know where the reference was to the Saratoga having its torps aft. As far as I recall it isnt mentioned in the episode, but it could very well be some backstage info. Anyone?