Topic: HydranCha (Read 7767 times)

TheSkinMan · « **on:** February 04, 2003, 07:41:56 pm »

This was a retexture someone did of my klingon into a hydran,What you think should i post it for download?

Azel · « **Reply #1 on:** February 04, 2003, 07:57:07 pm »

NEED you ask...lol
hell yeah!!!!!

your stuff is awesome man!!!!
BTW: I have been trying my hand at modelling and was wondering if you would be interested in texturing one of em
just asking

thanks in advance for either desicion

Ducttapewonder · « **Reply #2 on:** February 04, 2003, 09:50:05 pm »

By all means. She looks seriously sweet.

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #3 on:** February 04, 2003, 10:08:02 pm »

This is kinda like an exotic dancer asking if anyone would like to have sex with her. (Actually I had a better example, but had to clean it up a bit) You didn't really expect someone to say no, did you? We need an TNG D7H and yours is exactly what the Dr. ordered

Arcilte · « **Reply #4 on:** February 04, 2003, 10:27:46 pm »

I must say... I love it. It looks great.

blood · « **Reply #5 on:** February 05, 2003, 07:27:08 am »

do you have the kvort'cha to d/l for SFC3?

B5er wanna be · « **Reply #6 on:** February 05, 2003, 02:00:42 pm »

That is truly one sweet looking ship. For a TNG ship!

Is it for SFC3 or SFC2?

It really does put the Anarchist in the D-7H.

ChrsLWlstr · « **Reply #7 on:** February 06, 2003, 01:10:55 am »

Outstanding ship!

Now, would you be interested in working your imagination in making other full blooded TNG Hydrans?

Thank You!

Qob'nuH · « **Reply #8 on:** February 07, 2003, 05:25:10 pm »

Bump......Was this ever put up for D/L?

Vichama · « **Reply #9 on:** February 07, 2003, 10:58:57 pm »

Wow.... (me being speachless)

She sure is purty pa.

Atrahasis · « **Reply #10 on:** February 08, 2003, 11:23:48 am »

Skin buddy, just a word about your texturing in general: Why do all your raised and embossed areas on the textures make it look like the ship is growing huge patterned mosquito-bite welts? Nothing personal, just something that has bothered me about your style/technique that I noticed. When I see things like that my eyeballs tell me "That just ain't right".

TheSkinMan · « **Reply #11 on:** February 08, 2003, 04:29:45 pm »

Quote:

Skin buddy, just a word about your texturing in general: Why do all your raised and embossed areas on the textures make it look like the ship is growing huge patterned mosquito-bite welts? Nothing personal, just something that has bothered me about your style/technique that I noticed. When I see things like that my eyeballs tell me "That just ain't right".

every one has a way of texturing it like art not all artist are the same when thay paint, i do my textures the way i like,
If thay are not the way you like, to bad dotn download my stuff or look at it. Most people like my textures and i make alot fo money of my work so that should tell you something. I ma happy you are realy taking the time to look over them, maybe you will pick up some tricks, i can always give you a a few links on how to textures and model.

Atrahasis you have ben posting nothing but bad things about my work in every one of my posts, when ether people only have good things to say.
Like i saidyou should spend more time working on your own stuff and in proving it, maybe it will take your time and you will not have to trole so much or try to make flame wears or anoy others to get thair ATTENTION.
And this was a retexture not by me, so you probly just pissed some one off in your hope to try and anoy me. In the end you only make your self look bad.

I would tell you what i think about your ships and textures but i have never seen one ship made by you, why dont you show me one and i will let you know what i think of it. Unlike you i will be the big man and not just tell you what i think is wrong with or try to find somethign wrong with it to piss you off, I am not like that.

Once agen my textures are my textures if you don't like them, deal with it no one is forcing you to donwload my stuff or even look in my posts, the taldren judges liked my work so i guess thair must be something good to it after all.

img]http://sfc.strategy-gaming.com/leigons/gifs/USSECLIPSENOVACLASS3.gif[/img]

"Thair can be only one....
------Memember of the i don't flame for ATTENTION of moders.....------

Atrahasis · « **Reply #12 on:** February 08, 2003, 04:52:44 pm »

Hey Skin bud, I was hoping you wouldn't take it personal. It's just that ever since I first saw your stuff here it has all been bevelled and embossed like this. This is no reflection on who may have redone or re-colored your textures, because the oddness that always catches my eye is the layering that you do. It's just my personal opinion that the depths you choose usually make panels look like mosquito welts. I'm not sure if you're doing it on purpose or if there's a level of mastery of Photoshop that you haven't attained yet, but I am beginning to think that you do it because you don't know how to do it any other way. I hope you take that constructively because I do believe that sometimes people aren't aware of the things that they repeatedly do.

Oh yeah, btw someone was looking for one of mine last week at the sfc3.net model forum and flashed some pics. Funny you didn't see it, aren't you a moderator there in that very forum?

http://sfc3.infopop.cc/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=388607626&f=301608436&m=6456065712

Savage · « **Reply #13 on:** February 08, 2003, 06:12:35 pm »

I don't post much but i do read all the posts and get all the ships. Atrahasis you have a big attitude problem.
Skin i think Atrahasis is jealous. His work is childsplay to the ships and textures you do.

Thank you SkinMan for all your ships and hard work. Atrahasis you can go now!

Regards
ROD

Sandman · « **Reply #14 on:** February 08, 2003, 06:42:07 pm »

YO!

CEASE FIRE!

Doggone artists...Ya love 'em, Ya Hate 'em..(sigh!)

Atra, build us a C8/9/10 building on the work you did on your C5, and build us a battle wagon (Do a carrier varient to) some day. Your hulls are distinctively classic Klingon. I never have liked the Taldren style klingons.. Your work has followed the classic style to my eye, and I'd love to see you finish up a fleet for the Klingons reflecting that style. (ok, yer gonna have to do us the F,E, and G series too..maybe hopefully someday)

The Klingon Empire on SFC2.Net request the construction of the IKV Chancellor Dogmatix B-11K as a gift for outgoing Chancellor Dopgmatix if you could manage it.

Skinman.. How about a heavy DD to War CL sized hull with the same sort of over all style as this amazing hull of yours.. to fill the Advanced Destroyer slot in OP? Your work has a more organic look that I like. I like your textures, and the "Bejeweled" look your ship shins have. The Hydranized cruiser is something else again. Your work is very finished, and you do have a unique eye. Some of us are not so hidebound in cannon trek that we can't enjoy different styles. When ya do something differnt yer always gonna catch some flak...but most of it is harmless. The rest of it is only as harmless as you allow it to be. Lets see more of yer stuff.. You do play SFC-2 right? <grin!>

James Formo · « **Reply #15 on:** February 08, 2003, 07:15:18 pm »

Skinmans meshing and texturing owns. Sometimes the best artists get targeted with barbs perhaps out of envy or jealousy.

For God sakes -just be positive-if you can't then move along. He doesn't have to post his work here. I will say his posts inspire me to build ships. The last thing we need is wip's to get knackered. Especially when they are of this quality.

Sandman-my remarks were not directed at you- just so you know

TheSkinMan · « **Reply #16 on:** February 08, 2003, 07:23:43 pm »

James Formo, Thank you.... its people like you that keep me wanting to make ships and post them for download. As long as thairs people like you still hear at the taldren and sfc3 forums i will be thair making ships for you all.

http://www.starfleetcommand3.NET
http://www.xenocorp.net
------Memember of the i don't flame for ATTENTION of moders.....------

Xethemez · « **Reply #17 on:** February 09, 2003, 02:42:29 am »

Wow SkinMan - this realy is a great lookin' ship. Have you done any pure Hydran designs?

Atrahasis · « **Reply #18 on:** February 09, 2003, 05:46:35 am »

For God's sake....I'm about as jealous of Skinman's style as I would be of a brain tumor. I'm pointing out the things about his lack of knowledge of layering that really bothers me, and I think I have valid technical and style points that I'm making when I criticize his work, because it seems like tho he's been doing this for a long time now he keeps doing the same odd-ball layering that makes the back of my eyeballs itch and tell me "Something is not right". If you don't know what layering is then you don't know what I'm talking about, it really is a technical issue that involves Photoshop. I meant the criticism to be serious, it was not meant callously, because on the odd occassion when I and other artists discuss Skin's work between ourselves there is usually talk of something about his stuff that is not quite right. I'm really sorry, but I thought he could finally benefit from some words mentioned in that area. Skin, don't take it personally, and don't let your pride get in the way and be dismissive about it either. You should take a step back and look into what I'm saying. The way I decribed the layering on this ship for example was "mosquito welts", and if you're serious about perfection you should consider why it left that impression on me. But I guess it's up to you.

Sandman · « **Reply #20 on:** February 09, 2003, 06:42:55 pm »

Yea guys, make ships make ships!

Atra his stuff is different, and Ya could have been percieved as come across a tad harshly or even elitist.

You guys are artists. And artistic types (Pressure cooker mentality) tend to spontaniously create words as well as art.

Advantage of a model. Ya make it, it stinks you can throw it away. Words ya get stuck with.. if ya let 'em. I've swapped E-mails with you, and watched your work for a long time. Your good, please, more please, more more more more more.....

Skinman's stuff is NOT mainstream. I gotta hint he's aware of that. :-) Let him be different.

Sandman sends

(Formo np, didn't think they were)

Qob'nuH · « **Reply #21 on:** February 09, 2003, 10:46:51 pm »

My grandmother is 99 years old and sometimes she wanders off topic in a conversation. But I don't think as bad as some of the topics i see here. I thought this thread was about getting this ship up for D/L.(Is it up yet?)

I have a lot of Atra's stuff in my game . I also have a lot of Skin"s stuff too. I think both put out some great models. I feel that comments and suggestions on modeling technique,etc. should be sent by e-mai. Please let the forum concentrate on presenting new models and getting them out to the players.

Lord Schtupp · « **Reply #23 on:** February 10, 2003, 11:50:57 am »

Agree with Atra. Criticism on model work is certainly what I like to see (in a tactful way), made my ships better. At least the artist knows that ppl are really looking at his/her work and will use it in game, and not just blowing smoke. Anyway that is what makes these WIP threads interesting I think. Otherwise whats the point of WIP thread? (I know this is not a WIP)

Now take Skinmans work here. This ship looks awesome almost like an HR Giger ship (esp from above) with the soft embossing etc. but I see what Atra was getting at, and Skinmans technique might not look so good on a Fed ship for example. It looks great here; really looks ALIEN you know, like all of smans ships i think. But If i were to critique anything about it, the embossing does give an illusion of extra-bumpiness and maybe the shadow/highlights in those areas should have less contrast and/or less embossed edge to minimize this effect.

But hey Awesome design, very nice model. I cant do an Alien ship cuz my brain is too mechanical so Im envious. So.....

.....Great work Skinman!

Captain KoraH · « **Reply #24 on:** February 10, 2003, 12:26:16 pm »

Hey I'm not a real big fan of Hydran conversions, but I just wanted to say your ship does look great.

Captain KoraH

TheSkinMan · « **Reply #25 on:** February 10, 2003, 12:28:07 pm »

Well see what pisses me off the most is Atrahasis is have you even look at my ORIGNAEL cha? I dont think you have.
So i will post some old screen shots for you, in taldrens mod viewer too.

do you see what you call "mosquito" welts" on it? No you dont....
Like i said at the start of your little ATTENTION Trips in my post. This was a RETEXTURE of my cha by a Friend.

So what you call "mosquito" welts" are not made by me. Maybe if you would stop runing your mouth and read once of what ether people say and not just flame flame flame, we would not have to go thrue this bullsh*t like i said . But this is what you wanted fromt he start to get ATTENTION and try and pic things that you think are bad with my texture work.

Hears some more pics of my ORIGNAEL cha that i posted like 7 month back when i made it.

Like i said i let my texture and model work speek for it self. I don't think i need to say any more, you all ready have made your self look like a fool.

----SkinMan----

RipStar3D
StarFleetCommand3
XenoCorp

Atrahasis · « **Reply #26 on:** February 10, 2003, 01:14:02 pm »

Skin dude, you could have pointed out that the welts were not your doing, you didn't make that clear. Anyways, I'd like to say you have a really nice attitude and a very colorful vocabulary! And yes, obviously I had not seen your original one. And when I criticize comething, don't take it personal, like when I criticed your Nova-type starship as well. It's all just opinion, you can choose to accept it or block it out, whatever you like. But instead of getting all huffy about it you should value criticism as the gems they are, that's the sign of somebody...mature.

Lord Schtupp · « **Reply #28 on:** February 10, 2003, 02:00:23 pm »

Hey skin what I had pointed out was just aggravated by the color change over to hydran. In your originals the contrast in the embossed edges are much less noticable. Funny that both you and Atra build the finest kingon ships IMHO lol. I wish i had half the texture talent that you guys do.

Extremly awesome work Skinman.

Lord Schtupp · « **Reply #29 on:** February 10, 2003, 04:49:46 pm »

SkinMan - Hearty congratulations on your well earned winning contest entry!

Ducttapewonder · « **Reply #30 on:** February 11, 2003, 02:33:41 am »

Atra,
Critisisim is very important to improving ones work. But I do have to say that you should learn a little tact when giving it. I value anyones critisisim and am constantly sending WIP pics to my buddies, because I know they wont blow smoke at me. I for one have always enjoyad skinmans work. I find it very refreshing to see a different and unique style. I like the way he uses soft lines and brighter colors. In contrast, I like the angular look and sharp textures of your ships also Atra.

It all breaks down to personal preferences. If you find something about someones work that you dont like, or in your opinion could use some work, either let them know privately, or try to imagine having someone offering you their opinion. It can make a world of difference in the way you word things.

(Hmm....kinda weird......critisizing someones critisisim......I should get some sleep.......Take it as you will Atra. Just my $.02.)

Praxis · « **Reply #32 on:** February 12, 2003, 07:15:06 am »

Skin- wonderful job. Just about everyone but Atra loves it. Keep em coming! VERY nice job there, its a beauty!

Vichama · « **Reply #33 on:** February 12, 2003, 04:04:16 pm »

Could someone please post a link for this download.

Qob'nuH · « **Reply #35 on:** February 19, 2003, 02:22:58 pm »

BUMP...........

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