Topic: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0  (Read 101263 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

FireSoul

  • Guest
Re: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0
« Reply #340 on: August 03, 2003, 07:24:21 am »
It doesn't look like I have that TMP FDN. Do you know where I can find it?
Edit: don't forget to let me know who made it.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2003, 07:29:25 am by FireSoul »

Klingon Fanatic

  • Guest
Re: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0
« Reply #341 on: August 03, 2003, 08:19:58 am »
Firesoul,

Check out Skinman?s great stuff:

http://sfc.strategy-gaming.com/leigons/Founders/ISC.htm

X-ICL = ISC Tug  (X-ICA is too dark when you d/l)

X-IDN = ISC Monitor

http://sfc.strategy-gaming.com/leigons/Founders/HYDRAN.htm

The Blackhawk is pretty cool too.

KF

FireSoul

  • Guest
Re: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0
« Reply #342 on: August 03, 2003, 09:00:00 am »
The ICL doesn't quite look like a tug, but I'm sure it could be modified to become so. It's a good starting point.
Thank you. ;>

SPQR Renegade001

  • Guest
Re: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0
« Reply #343 on: August 03, 2003, 11:15:31 am »
Quote:

Do you have a triple-warp TMP-style FDN?
-- Luc
   




Is this your looking for?
It's by P81. I don't know if he's still among us or giving permissions to his material, but this is a good looking Ascension.  

Rogue

  • Guest
Re: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0
« Reply #344 on: August 03, 2003, 01:28:08 pm »
http://www.frost-works.com/schtupp/capitalships.htm

I think that DN+ is Lord Schtupp's creation.

 
« Last Edit: August 03, 2003, 01:32:13 pm by Rogue »

jdmckinney

  • Guest
Re: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0
« Reply #345 on: August 03, 2003, 02:38:00 pm »
FIreSoul, would you mind looking into the L-NCAL (or variants)? I would have expected anything with that designation to be replaced by the new SFB L-NCC specs. I haven't looked through the other races' lists, either. Are the old Taldren NCCs and NCALs replaced or retained? If retained, I would suggest they be restricted so players are using the balanced NCCs by default.

FireSoul

  • Guest
Re: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0
« Reply #346 on: August 03, 2003, 02:45:59 pm »
Quote:

FIreSoul, would you mind looking into the L-NCAL (or variants)? I would have expected anything with that designation to be replaced by the new SFB L-NCC specs. I haven't looked through the other races' lists, either. Are the old Taldren NCCs and NCALs replaced or retained? If retained, I would suggest they be restricted so players are using the balanced NCCs by default.  




The NCAL and the DWC have been retained. I don't mind setting them to R.

FireSoul

  • Guest
Re: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0
« Reply #347 on: August 03, 2003, 02:47:27 pm »
Quote:

http://www.frost-works.com/schtupp/capitalships.htm

I think that DN+ is Lord Schtupp's creation.

   




That's the TOS FDN I showed. I'm looking for the one I've been shown above by dderidex.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by FireSoul »

dderidex

  • Guest
Re: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0
« Reply #348 on: August 03, 2003, 03:09:36 pm »
Sorry about the delay, I have it posted now (it's mine - it's base on the P81 BB that comes with the 'D2 Model Pack' that's been around forever.  I redid the mesh some, removed a warp engine, tinkered with the impulse and secondary hull, etc - and retextured the saucer to reflect the DN designation and name rather than BB).

Anyway, here is the DN I showed above.

Also, be sure to pick up the latest frigate/dw pack.  I've updated the models quite a bit - higher poly base mesh to work from, added torpedoes to them, improved break models and hardpoints.  

Rogue

  • Guest
Re: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0
« Reply #349 on: August 03, 2003, 03:14:20 pm »
Ya, OK. I was puzzled since you showed the screen capture it was a strong indication you had it. That dreadnought I would wager is a unique ship. I don't remember seeing it anywhere but that DDeridex will be able to accomodate you as it might be his kitbash. Also, check your email. I sent some pics of a line of missing Gorn stuff. Some of those have gone missing over time. Especialy one I don't have a jpeg of. Reply if interested, ignore if not. Probably best to stick with Feral's stuff since he has about everything covered.  

FireSoul

  • Guest
Re: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0
« Reply #350 on: August 03, 2003, 03:19:36 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

Do you have a triple-warp TMP-style FDN?
-- Luc
   




Is this your looking for?
It's by P81. I don't know if he's still among us or giving permissions to his material, but this is a good looking Ascension.  




Do you know where I could find this one too?

FireSoul

  • Guest
Re: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0
« Reply #351 on: August 03, 2003, 03:29:43 pm »
Quote:

Ya, OK. I was puzzled since you showed the screen capture it was a strong indication you had it. That dreadnought I would wager is a unique ship. I don't remember seeing it anywhere but that DDeridex will be able to accomodate you as it might be his kitbash. Also, check your email. I sent some pics of a line of missing Gorn stuff. Some of those have gone missing over time. Especialy one I don't have a jpeg of. Reply if interested, ignore if not. Probably best to stick with Feral's stuff since he has about everything covered.  




Yes, I downloaded Lord Schtupp's. The current ideas I'm having concerning Federation DNs are the following:
F-DN from Lord Schtupp
F-DN+ from p81 as linked above by SPQR Renegade001. (please link/send)
F-DNG (and variants) from dderidex
F-BB by p81 (which I have found)

In that order, the upgrade path would both be SFB accurate and look nice (yeah, the simple requirements.  )


BTW, those are very nice gorns that would do great X2 ships... but yes, I will stick with the ones from FeralYards.
Thanks!

Rogue

  • Guest
Re: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0
« Reply #352 on: August 03, 2003, 03:48:59 pm »
You are so right. Feral did us a huge favor with all of those varients he did. He just about made the Hydran, Lyran and LDR plug and play. How cool is that?

I have a question for you. I pretty much deleted all of the scout and commando ships from my library to make the list tidy. The thought struck me that perhaps I killed some specific ships that might be called upon in some scennarios. Do I have a reason to worry?

Edit; If you would like I could forward a copy of the Ascencion. Never mind, I managed to read where you requested as much. Should be there in a bit.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2003, 04:07:40 pm by Rogue »

FireSoul

  • Guest
Re: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0
« Reply #353 on: August 03, 2003, 04:18:20 pm »
Thank you. ;>
I've found something very very similar in the sfcd2_hr.exe installer. It's especially interesting since the FDN from Lord Schtupp is marked as the NCC 2101 and this TMP refit is marked as the 2101-A. However, it's not as cool as the Ascension. (will have to look at both side-by-side)

Lepton1

  • Guest
Re: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0
« Reply #354 on: August 03, 2003, 04:24:17 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

http://www.frost-works.com/schtupp/capitalships.htm

I think that DN+ is Lord Schtupp's creation.

   




That's the TOS FDN I showed. I'm looking for the one I've been shown above by dderidex.




His models are some of the best.  Any TOS ship in the mod should have his name on it.  I mean what a kick-ass model.  WOW!!

Mr. Hypergol

  • Guest
Re: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0
« Reply #355 on: August 03, 2003, 04:51:25 pm »
 
Quote:

  I've found something very very similar in the sfcd2_hr.exe installer




I believe the best TMP "3 nacelle" DN model is from Pneumonic's D2 Mod high res model pack.  There is a USS Star League model that is perfect for a F-DN+ in my opinion.  

FireSoul

  • Guest
Re: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0
« Reply #356 on: August 03, 2003, 05:18:11 pm »
Quote:

 
Quote:

  I've found something very very similar in the sfcd2_hr.exe installer




I believe the best TMP "3 nacelle" DN model is from Pneumonic's D2 Mod high res model pack.  There is a USS Star League model that is perfect for a F-DN+ in my opinion.  




Bingo.
This is the result:

F-DN+ (Left), F-DN (Center), F-DNG (right)
 

Of course, that will only be included in the next release.
-- Luc
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by FireSoul »

Rogue

  • Guest
Re: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0
« Reply #357 on: August 03, 2003, 06:05:47 pm »
The D2 mod is truely nice. I tend to think the Ascencion is  the  choice for the Federation DNL. I mucked with the textures a bit as it was a conversion from a nonillunibated model and you can tell if you start to look at it. My personal choice is for nonilluminated warps. As far as I can tell that is a TNG developmant. Certainly not TMP era.  

Edit: Pitfalls to avoid in model selection. Since your going throught the process of selecting the best models you can get for the class I wanted to share something I learned to do. Take a look at the size of the folder that contains the new dreadnought by P81. It's 10.4 Meg of goodness. The problem that presents is you try to load too many such models it will bog the game down. Slow refresh rate and short hangs when sound events play. You can salvage some models by grey scaling and even reducing the size of the illumination maps. Even some of the seldom seen texture maps like the undersides of the model can be reduced to 256 x 256.  I was able to reduce that one to 8.9 without touching the main textures. Still too big. Most computers can't deal with many of that size model. Even if you do have a smoking video card.  I usualy won't use a model over 4 Meg for this reason. And 20-35 Meg is getting pretty common. Looks great in a model viewer but you better have massive video bandwidth to play it. Just something to consider when looking at stuff.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2003, 07:12:11 pm by Rogue »

Klingon Fanatic

  • Guest
Re: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0
« Reply #358 on: August 03, 2003, 06:08:32 pm »
 Dderidex, thank you for the link to P81's Explorer Class FBCH, I have a several versions that were kitbashed by Dark Matrix to include a Reliant style and a 3 engine DN version with a roll bar over the saucer. I will use this for Mirror Universe Imperials, LOL.  BTW: Any problem with those Baker Class kitbashes will be added to the FASA to SFC Collection? I'm almost ready for an update (a day or two).

Firesoul, since many of these additional ships are straying from the Taldren-wanna-be mode I thought I'd repitch that many of the Klingon Academy ships were converted into SFC and should be considered for use. The Suvwl' Qeh makes a great KCX, LOL and the Klingon Academy Tholians are too cool to ignore:



Besides, I have an entire race block based on Klingon Academy Tholians. I'm just waiting for Peter Davies to get my site up and running

Somebody post a link to P81's Ascension please. [I have his Yorktown and his Star League] How could I have missed that one?  One more MUST HAVE for the P81 collection, LOL.

I prefer Atrahasis' version of the Ascension (it uses P81 textures and has a more accurate deflector dish and overall build).

Qapla!

KF  
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Klingon Fanatic »

Mr. Hypergol

  • Guest
Re: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0
« Reply #359 on: August 03, 2003, 08:14:43 pm »
 
Quote:

 Bingo.
This is the result:

F-DN+ (Left), F-DN (Center), F-DNG (right)
 




Yep that works.  This should give the "Fed dreads" some good model variation to represent refits visually.