Topic: OP+ Corrections Thread: as of version 3.0

[Sten]

FireSoul,

At this time just drop the entire PFE issue. Its not a good time it appears.

Anyhow as I drove into to work. That old beta tester mind kicked in and I thought of a possible work around.

Just need to test my ideal out when I get home tonight.

Since the PFs in OP do not launch semi-hot as they do in EAW. Its time to develope different tactics again.

If you would sir forget about what I posted.

[FireSoul]

FYI,

.. check out some of the ships I've made models for:
 http://208.57.228.4/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB11&Number=146540&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=1


I don't have permission to the modify part of his 'modify and/or distribute' agreement of his material. the author agreed on distribution as part of my mod some time ago via email, but the modification part only came recently when I discovered my 3ds legs.

..so.. maybe these won't make the next version.. or maybe these will. Dunno yet.
-- Luc

 

[jdmckinney]

Can you check the name of the R-SNE in the specs? I think it reads Snipe-B Battle Frigate, but should be (?) Snipe-E Escort (I'm guessing, since I don't have my books with me). If this does need to be changed, does the strings.txt etc. need to be updated?

[FireSoul]

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Can you check the name of the R-SNE in the specs? I think it reads Snipe-B Battle Frigate, but should be (?) Snipe-E Escort (I'm guessing, since I don't have my books with me). If this does need to be changed, does the strings.txt etc. need to be updated?  

Problem's in the shiplist. That means strings.txt will also have to be updated. No biggie.
Will be in next release, as you probably expected.

[jdmckinney]

Yep. Just calling them out as I find them.

New one: should H-IRC have 4xPh1 instead of 4xPh2 (a la MKI reported earlier)? Don't have my book here to check, but that's my guess.

Another quibble: should H-D7H follow a refit track (shields upgraded I think)? I seem to remember it should.

[FireSoul]

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Yep. Just calling them out as I find them.

New one: should H-IRC have 4xPh1 instead of 4xPh2 (a la MKI reported earlier)? Don't have my book here to check, but that's my guess.

Another quibble: should H-D7H follow a refit track (shields upgraded I think)? I seem to remember it should.  

I did the H-IRC at my end a few days ago, and.. as it happens.. a D7H/D7H+ split *10* minutes ago.
Keep at it Doug.

[Fahrenheit]

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Yep. Just calling them out as I find them.

New one: should H-IRC have 4xPh1 instead of 4xPh2 (a la MKI reported earlier)? Don't have my book here to check, but that's my guess.

Another quibble: should H-D7H follow a refit track (shields upgraded I think)? I seem to remember it should.  

It didn't in SFB, since the Anarchist was a one-off ship.  However, I think it'd be prudent to have an upgrade track so that people can play "what-if" (and perhaps SFB did this, not sure).

F°
"Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps." -- David Lloyd George

[jdmckinney]

Actually, even a single ship can have refits. Like I said, there was a shield upgrade. There was also a boom phaser upgrade. The original D7H had Ph2s on the boom and rear/side-rear shields in the teens; the D7H with a refit has Ph1s on the boom and the shields go up to 20 on the aft, I believe. The Taldren stock D7H had Ph1s and shields were too high at 22. The pre-refit version wasn't there at all. Now there will be 2 versions if FS has made the changes I think he did. Anyway, it's a minor point. After that, we essentially get one extra ship nobody will use.

[jimmi7769]

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Actually, even a single ship can have refits. Like I said, there was a shield upgrade. There was also a boom phaser upgrade. The original D7H had Ph2s on the boom and rear/side-rear shields in the teens; the D7H with a refit has Ph1s on the boom and the shields go up to 20 on the aft, I believe. The Taldren stock D7H had Ph1s and shields were too high at 22. The pre-refit version wasn't there at all. Now there will be 2 versions if FS has made the changes I think he did. Anyway, it's a minor point. After that, we essentially get one extra ship nobody will use.  

22 shields are correct.  the D7(and D7H) had 30 - 22 - 15 - 13 shields and the refits made the rear 3 equal to the 2 and 6 shields in other words 30 - 22 - 22 - 22

[Max_iCOP]

Not a correction, but a fair place to put this.

THANK YOU, Firesoul !!!

This is an outstanding piece of work, which has got me hooked on OP yet again.
I really cannot describe how god I think it is.

Can we play it on-line at all?

Again, many thanks
Max_iCOP.

p.s. on re-reading I spotted a Freudian Slip of "god" instead of "good".  Maybe I can describe it afterall .

[FireSoul]

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Not a correction, but a fair place to put this.

THANK YOU, Firesoul !!!

This is an outstanding piece of work, which has got me hooked on OP yet again.
I really cannot describe how god I think it is.

Can we play it on-line at all?

Again, many thanks
Max_iCOP.

p.s. on re-reading I spotted a Freudian Slip of "god" instead of "good".  Maybe I can describe it afterall .  

You're welcomed.
When you say "can we play it online a tall?", do you mean us playing.. or do you mean "can this be used online?"
.. This can be used online just fine.

[RazalYllib]

OP ARENA is currenty using the shiplist and it is a lot of fun.

[FireSoul]

QUESTIONS:

1- I've noticed that there are only SBXes.. no BTX or BSX. Are these wanted? This questions depends on the next one, for the style wanted.

2- .. The current bases aren't the same as the SFB bases. There are some notable differences. Should I leave them alone, or redo them?

[Max_iCOP]

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Not a correction, but a fair place to put this.

THANK YOU, Firesoul !!!

This is an outstanding piece of work, which has got me hooked on OP yet again.
I really cannot describe how god I think it is.

Can we play it on-line at all?

Again, many thanks
Max_iCOP.

p.s. on re-reading I spotted a Freudian Slip of "god" instead of "good".  Maybe I can describe it afterall .  

You're welcomed.
When you say "can we play it online a tall?", do you mean us playing.. or do you mean "can this be used online?"
.. This can be used online just fine.  

I meant how do I get a game against another human.  Is there a Dynaverse set up?  Will Game Spy allow match up's?  Or do I have to TCP/IP a fellow player?
Thanks again
Max_iCOP

[FireSoul]

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Not a correction, but a fair place to put this.

THANK YOU, Firesoul !!!

This is an outstanding piece of work, which has got me hooked on OP yet again.
I really cannot describe how god I think it is.

Can we play it on-line at all?

Again, many thanks
Max_iCOP.

p.s. on re-reading I spotted a Freudian Slip of "god" instead of "good".  Maybe I can describe it afterall .  

You're welcomed.
When you say "can we play it online a tall?", do you mean us playing.. or do you mean "can this be used online?"
.. This can be used online just fine.  

I meant how do I get a game against another human.  Is there a Dynaverse set up?  Will Game Spy allow match up's?  Or do I have to TCP/IP a fellow player?
Thanks again
Max_iCOP  

This shiplist is used on GameSpy for a long time now. There isn't a difference (as far as SFC is concerned) between direct TCP and GameSpy. As for a Dynaverse server, yes there is one set up. See above.

[Dogmatix!]

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QUESTIONS:

1- I've noticed that there are only SBXes.. no BTX or BSX. Are these wanted? This questions depends on the next one, for the style wanted.

2- .. The current bases aren't the same as the SFB bases. There are some notable differences. Should I leave them alone, or redo them?  

"YES!" on #1.

"No IDEA" on #2.  Taldren's weaker than SFB?  Haven't seen SFB specs in ages.


I'm not sure any of the bases need to be harder to take down.




BTW...I noticed (since I use the version of OP+ 3.0 that doesn't include the models, since I like my own just fine, thank you!   ) that you replicate the K-F5s from the KDD folder and the HF5s from the KFF folder.  This doesn't seem quite right to me.  Has this already been discussed elsewhere in this thread?






 

[FireSoul]

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QUESTIONS:

1- I've noticed that there are only SBXes.. no BTX or BSX. Are these wanted? This questions depends on the next one, for the style wanted.

2- .. The current bases aren't the same as the SFB bases. There are some notable differences. Should I leave them alone, or redo them?  

"YES!" on #1.

"No IDEA" on #2.  Taldren's weaker than SFB?  Haven't seen SFB specs in ages.


I'm not sure any of the bases need to be harder to take down.




BTW...I noticed (since I use the version of OP+ 3.0 that doesn't include the models, since I like my own just fine, thank you!   ) that you replicate the K-F5s from the KDD folder and the HF5s from the KFF folder.  This doesn't seem quite right to me.  Has this already been discussed elsewhere in this thread?






 

I haven't seen this thread in a while.

.. for the #2 question: SFC bases are a bit stronger than the SFB ones. They would have to be understood, and the technique used reverse-engineered to be able to reproduce the BSX and BTX in the same style.


As for the model, I don't quite recall.

[Cmdr. Krotz]

FS-

Would you look into changing the K-DWC's 2 FX Phaser-1s to the KFX arc please, so as to be more in line with other Klingon ships? All the other Klingon NCA hulls are doing it  

Thanks,
        Krotz  

[FireSoul]

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FS-

Would you look into changing the K-DWC's 2 FX Phaser-1s to the KFX arc please, so as to be more in line with other Klingon ships? All the other Klingon NCA hulls are doing it  

Thanks,
Krotz  

The DWC is a pre-R10 ship Taldren invention. Why shouldn't it just be removed?

[Dogmatix!]

Why not, indeed...  


So..regarding the KFF being replicated to suffice for the HF5s...


You don't recall and don't care or you'll look into it?