Topic: The TOS era Belknap class. (Read 6061 times)

anduril · « **on:** July 31, 2003, 08:46:03 pm »

Mesh is mostly done.

I wanted a different bridge than the connie so I went with the Phase 2 bridge module.

For a while I was considering what to do with the area at the bottom of the unusual engineering hull where the pylons meet. Then I was trying to figure out what to do with the heavy weapons suite that the Battlecruisers have in the sec hull. They I thought of the old reeses peanut butter cup commercial. "You got chocolate in my peanut butter! You got your peanut butter.....yada yada"

Anyway since the ship is kind of radical I went with a radical thing and put the heavy weapons down near the junction of the pylons too. Some federation design to move them further away from the deflector dish and planetary array so that when the versions with Plasma's launch the torps won't interfere with the workings of the other systems. Or something like that. At least that's my story and I'm sticking with it. It's hard to see but I have a recess in the front of that assembly on the bottom for the torp/whatever launchers.

I'm probably going to put a shoulder on the top of the sec hull around the neck like the tmp ships have only it won't have a forward weap launcher in it. But if I do that I'll probably put a weaps hardpoint at the back of it for a rear firing torp, a drone launcher whatever.

ideas?

sandman69247 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 31, 2003, 08:53:04 pm »

Looks really good! I like the your ideas on where the heavy weaps would be...makes sense. More pics, more more more!

Khalee · « **Reply #2 on:** July 31, 2003, 09:09:50 pm »

Looks good too bad I wont be here when you get it finished Oh well I get it when i get back Again.

Rogue · « **Reply #3 on:** July 31, 2003, 10:09:13 pm »

My favorite Federation battlecruiser.

I'm so happy. I kid you not.

Ideas? Oh shoot, I dunno. Locate a heavy weapon and a phaser hardpoint there for that option? Weak idea but it's late for me. I hope you out do yourself on this one.

Marauth · « **Reply #4 on:** August 01, 2003, 07:53:59 am »

Cool, I probably won't be here when you finish it (goin on holiday) but I bet it'll be fantastic as usual.

So is this like, the Decatur class? I saw some side views of it on shipschematics and it basically looks just like a TOS Belknap.

Anthony_Scott · « **Reply #5 on:** August 01, 2003, 12:36:22 pm »

This is why I am going to start modeling...all this superb work!

Looks REALLY good!

NannerSlug · « **Reply #6 on:** August 01, 2003, 09:37:00 pm »

very nice! please post when done.. btw, anyone know of a TMP belknap?

Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #7 on:** August 02, 2003, 05:36:20 am »

Hi Anduril:
Very nicely done and I like your reasoning. Its nice to see a variant of the Decatur and I know this will rate as A+
looking forward to seeing the final work.

Marauth · « **Reply #8 on:** August 02, 2003, 06:46:30 am »

Yup, I got one Atrahasis did based off of P81's 3rd version connie, the port nacelle texture is reversed but other than that it's fairly cool, also he did an Ascension light dreadnought which is basically a Belknap with 3 nacelles and some other minor stuff, extra phasers and modified bridge module. I could send 'em your way if you want them, what email should I send them too?

Rogue · « **Reply #9 on:** August 02, 2003, 06:47:22 am »

Quote:

very nice! please post when done.. btw, anyone know of a TMP belknap?

A TMP Belknap? A TMP Belknap? ,,, he,he,he,he why yes! Yes there is. The other big A did it. There may be some P81 in there. I forget. I think it is the perfect CB. And I liked it sooo much that I sometimes make up specs for a CBR and a CBX just for fun. I can't make up my mind which is my all time fav model but it's among them.

I think you can pick up a copy at Starfleet Universe. Shoot, I think there is another one there by Moon.

anduril · « **Reply #10 on:** August 02, 2003, 01:48:27 pm »

Couple more shots. I may add the cut in's for the impulse engines yet.

NannerSlug · « **Reply #11 on:** August 02, 2003, 02:29:11 pm »

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #12 on:** August 03, 2003, 01:17:01 am »

It's really coming together nicely. I might slowly get my new TOS fleet all updated and improved. I'm W-A-I-T-N-G!!!!!

Rogue NineCH · « **Reply #13 on:** August 03, 2003, 03:45:33 am »

Beautiful ship Anduril! Can't wait to fly her.

Rogue · « **Reply #14 on:** August 03, 2003, 08:24:43 am »

Although it probably won't apply to your Belknap, since you have the bug to make your warps as perfect as possible, that suggests the earlier no do-dad sphere on the exausts version. Oh bother eh?

anduril · « **Reply #15 on:** August 03, 2003, 08:37:25 am »

Funny you should mention that. I was cruising thru some mods in the mod viewer in Feb or March and when I loaded up the old version of this I did a double take. "Where the hell are the balls at the end of the nacelles?"

What's up with me texturing them in?

Rogue · « **Reply #16 on:** August 03, 2003, 09:54:28 am »

He he he. Ya maybe but I'm still glad you did that one. I dropped a set of Moon's textures on her to make it match my model set a little better. I even emailed you the results as an act of appreciation. I used to have a life now I have a computer and SFC.

Anyway, the comment was just a friendly tweak cause I know it will bug you at some point or another. Now that you have the late revision nacelles done you know there will come a time when ya just gotta do it. Or it's gonna stick in your craw slowly eating away at your sense of order. It will call to you in the night... but Anduril, where are my early nacelles? Don't you love us anymore? I don't have globe thingies! BTW, I've been looking at some of your later texturing results and I have to say they are really u-bangy good.

PS. If something sticks in ones craw, exactly where is that?

Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #17 on:** August 06, 2003, 06:19:20 pm »

This is too nice to be on the second page and I'm looking forward to seeing an update Thank you Anduril.

anduril · « **Reply #18 on:** August 06, 2003, 08:32:38 pm »

Thanks Bernard.

As has been pointed out numerous times we are no p81...which means I don't bump my own posts too!

nya nya Rick.

Anyway, playing around with stuff now as most of the main things have been added. I haven't gotten around to the pylons yet however.

Rogue · « **Reply #19 on:** August 06, 2003, 08:44:44 pm »

Oooo, aaaah. I like the impulse engines. I have a thing for impulse engines. One of my fav things to do is give the illumination map color and give them a cherry red glow behing a grayish grid plate. It isn't noticable till you catch them at the right angle but I like it.

And that weathering fade from the seams is very sharp. Compliments on those little things you do.

NannerSlug · « **Reply #20 on:** August 06, 2003, 10:18:21 pm »

how much longer 'till release.. MUWANANANAN!

Atrahasis · « **Reply #21 on:** August 07, 2003, 06:24:38 am »

I have a question re the "rust" on the nacelle shields: How can you have oxidation in space?

anduril · « **Reply #22 on:** August 07, 2003, 08:11:49 am »

Not sure about release time as I get about a half an hour a morning to work on it lately.

Who's to say it's oxidation? This bit of detail comes off of Ed M's bastardized refit of the E that hangs in the Smithsonian.

I kind of write it off this way. Maybe whatever equipment is in those things generates some kind of field that attracts certain elements in space. Which happen to be brownish.....

Anyway it looks cool and gives the illusion of past movement!

Here's where I am at the moment. Trying to decide if I want these horizontal lines around the saucer sides. I may finalize them as double lines. If I were to do that and I'm leaning toward it should I remove the vertical lines betwee them.?

wanderer · « **Reply #23 on:** August 07, 2003, 12:49:58 pm »

Excellent work, sir! I can't get enough TOS designs, and this will be a cherry edition to my collection. It's begging to fill the CF slot in Firesould's shiplist...

I'm no modeler, just a fan, but I like the horizontal lines, from a distance I think it will give the saucer a nice, clean edge. And the vertical lines look great, ya gotta have plate seams, and those look great as is.

I suppose my only quibble would be the NCC number, heheh.

Anywho, my $.02

anduril · « **Reply #25 on:** August 07, 2003, 08:32:45 pm »

Updated the last pic.

There are windows along the edge of the saucer in the same configuration and location as the Constitution class. The camera just happens to catch the saucer between the two groups. When I get near the end of this build I'll decide if I want to change the configuration and or number of windows.

Rogue · « **Reply #26 on:** August 07, 2003, 08:42:17 pm »

Perfecto! I knew you would come up with it. Looks like it was supposed to be that way all along.

Something that closely related to the Constitution class is gonna be something you have a good feel for.

Should they ever get a bug to do Star Trek 'TOS revisited' as a TV series then may you be an artistic project consultant. If they can do four seasons on a Constitution perhaps they can come up with another four on a Belknap.

E_Look · « **Reply #27 on:** August 07, 2003, 09:10:22 pm »

Atra, maybe it was due to that one time some enemy weapon got through the shields just enough to "oxidize" some oxidizable metallic component in the plating! Don't you remember TOS? The shields were always failing like NYC public schools!

Anthony_Scott · « **Reply #28 on:** August 08, 2003, 12:55:48 pm »

Naah...the script woriters had to make those shields fail to make things interesting...i mean, what is the fun writing a good episode without giving Scotty conniptions?

Rogue · « **Reply #29 on:** August 10, 2003, 08:14:12 am »

B-b-b-b-b-b-b-bump. The kind of bump your mother warned you about.

So, are they firing up the warp core and stocking the photon torps yet?

anduril · « **Reply #30 on:** August 10, 2003, 02:20:36 pm »

Been adding the little things lately.

Yesterday was a wash as it was a day of beer and volleyball. I'm getting too old for the volleyball....ack.

This is a quickie head on shot I took while I was cleaning up the mesh ship in .mod format. I still have one or two shadowing issues to take care of as well as finalizing the saucer top/bottom textures and making illum maps.

Rogue · « **Reply #31 on:** August 10, 2003, 03:23:08 pm »

I'll be looking for her. What ever it is with the Belknap I think it is really sharp looking. Like a favorite car from years past. (eg. 69 Camaro) Take your time as it will probably be the final edition of an ellegant design.

Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #32 on:** August 10, 2003, 04:22:52 pm »

It's looking really good.

I have a small request could you make one of the ship registry's Uss Walter M Jeffries in honor of his passing. Keep up the fantastic work. Its worth the wait.

anduril · « **Reply #33 on:** August 10, 2003, 06:30:35 pm »

1964 for the year the first pilot would have come out if....it had?

Captain Ron · « **Reply #34 on:** August 10, 2003, 07:07:18 pm »

Look good there!

Can not wait to see the finished product.

E_Look · « **Reply #36 on:** August 10, 2003, 10:39:39 pm »

Man-oh-man! Anduril! This is almost like going back and watching THE show for the first time! And that date, '64! Ah, what sweetness, then! Though I know you know that it was '66 when it actually debuted. Great days then- 'toons, toys, and Trek... oh yeah, still had to go to school though.

Will we ever see another space program as vigorous as we had then?

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #37 on:** August 12, 2003, 07:50:14 pm »

This thread started of qouting an old commercial. With that in mind, "Is it soup yet!!!"
bump!!!

anduril · « **Reply #38 on:** August 12, 2003, 08:53:20 pm »

I was going to edit out some of the first pics to save dl time but whatever edit timer kicks in kicked in.

Not really sure if I like the bussards. But that may be due to the lighting which was a quick run thru to see what the results would be and to get a base look to start with. There are a few things I see need changing and a couple to be added. But it's in mod form with break/dp/hp's etc so only a few tweaks remain.

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Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #39 on:** August 12, 2003, 09:08:58 pm »

Wow they look really good to me.Its coming along nicely.

Thank you so very much for sharing this with us.

Wolf2525 · « **Reply #40 on:** August 12, 2003, 09:15:40 pm »

That's amazing! Looks fantastic!

Rogue · « **Reply #41 on:** August 12, 2003, 09:33:38 pm »

I like it.

Gee, I wished your site was fleshed out with the download links. You have so many well crafted models that it seems out of place for them not to be there. The Belknap is going to be yet another prize for the game. And may I say I'm really impressed with the way the saucer rim came out. Whatever the three protrusions are that surround the deflector dish are supposed to be, do you think there ought to be some sort of function for them? Like scanner imagers or nodes for shaping the deflector field? They strike me like they are supposed to do something but I don't remember it ever being described in a schematic what they do. Just a thought.

WickedZombie45 · « **Reply #42 on:** August 12, 2003, 09:49:01 pm »

Undoubtedly one of your best Anduril, the detailing sets 'er off.

Atrahasis · « **Reply #43 on:** August 12, 2003, 10:44:55 pm »

Very nice, and I especially like the bussards.

Fire Blade · « **Reply #44 on:** August 13, 2003, 12:09:06 am »

WOW !
realy looking forward to this one
O.T. my son is now walking peace has ended L.O.L

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #45 on:** February 15, 2004, 09:00:52 pm »

Bump.And a question Sir.Why can't I D'L any of the models on your site

? They're truly awesome.I want them all please

.
-MP
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" I'm a model junkie in need of a good fix "-MP
ModelsPlease@aol.com

Jaeih t`Radaik · « **Reply #46 on:** February 16, 2004, 09:20:48 am »

Hi all,

Everyone is going on about how pretty this Decatur is, but I have no pics of it in this entire thread. Have the pics been removed?

I am, as ever,

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #47 on:** February 17, 2004, 05:03:14 am »

I have no idea what it looks like either.I went to Andurils website and he has some great models on there,but no way to D/L them,and secondley there's no mention of this ship there either.

-MP
ModelsPlease@aol.com

Cmdr_Kell · « **Reply #49 on:** March 23, 2004, 09:04:18 pm »

Bump

Cmdr_Kell · « **Reply #50 on:** March 26, 2004, 03:08:25 pm »

Has this been released and maybe I missed it?

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