Topic: OP+ mod version 3.0 is ready. (Read 14238 times)

FireSoul · « **on:** July 31, 2003, 12:18:30 am »

I know it's only been 2 weeks, but this is pretty much all I've been doing these last couple of weeks.

The OP+ Project Mod is ready. I've updated the webpages, and made the downloads available to the public.

1- What's new?
Models. I have created a version of the shiplist which points to models that I have found perfect for this game, and included them in a package. The package is 35mb in size. It takes up about 230mb of HD space once installed. Many thanks to all the people who created all these great models I have included in this package.

2- What if I can't download 35mb?
There's a 2nd downloadable for you. It's only 251kb (same as before, more or less). BUT it still will take about 230mb of space on your HD. It copies the models needed from the Taldren stock models directory.

3- I don't download one package for the shiplist, then the other for the models?
No. Both are full installations of the package. If you want to switch from one to the other, uninstall the first one and install the other. (Use Add/Remove Programs)

4- I don't have that much free space on my HD.
.. sorry. Can't help you there.

5- I thought this was a shiplist project only. What happened?
I was bored.

Here are the links:
http://klingon.stasis.ca/OP_plusrefit/opplus_30_models.exe (35mb installer, includes models I meticulously picked)
http://klingon.stasis.ca/OP_plusrefit/opplus_30_no_models.exe (251kb installer.)

Main Site Link, with FAQs:
http://klingon.stasis.ca/OP_plusrefit/

-- Luc

Drakenred · « **Reply #1 on:** July 31, 2003, 01:16:11 am »

God help us when your realy REALY board, you may just figure out how to code in the Andromidans.

Lepton1 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 31, 2003, 01:58:00 am »

Hmm, will I be able to swap out the shiplist and still have the stock shiplist pointing to the correct model folders? Or have you included some sort of swapping mechanism program like those used in current D2 campaigns??? Are these hi-res models?? Are these models going to slow my game to a crawl or make it jumpy??

FireSoul · « **Reply #3 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:11:03 am »

Quote:

Hmm, will I be able to swap out the shiplist and still have the stock shiplist pointing to the correct model folders? Or have you included some sort of swapping mechanism program like those used in current D2 campaigns??? Are these hi-res models?? Are these models going to slow my game to a crawl or make it jumpy??

Yes. Install it. The original shiplist and other files are going to be backed up under opplus/backup. Uninstalling will restore these files. You could consider the uninstaller as a valid swapper.
No. I leave the Stock models alone. I *do* have a modified model.siz, but that's restored on uninstall.
Some.
Only if you do nuts CoopAce games like I do. (Stock stuff can crawl, there.)

FireSoul · « **Reply #4 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:35:42 am »

I seem to continually get the same concerns from people. I don't know what batch files people use to swap shiplists back and forth, but.. Once installed, there's going to be a opplus/ directory. In there are the OP+ files, and a backup/ directory. The backup/ directory contain the files that were installed within OP at that moment.

You can use these files, and swap them back and forth if you're comfortable with the process. You can also copy them into your own swapping methods.

-- Luc

Lepton1 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:49:54 am »

Sorry to be so anal, FS. Great work by the way, One problem so far. The fed BCH and DN models got switched, ie the BCH model is in the DN folder and the DN model is in the BCH folder. I discovered that quite by accident looking for a P81 excelsior which I was surprised not to find. Anyway, you might want to check to see if anything else is getting switched. Sorry. Also some of the fed models don't appear to have all their textures completed. The fed tug plus for example. Regular tug looks fine and beautiful. Wow, what a model!!!

jdmckinney · « **Reply #7 on:** July 31, 2003, 06:54:41 am »

I think I missed something along the way -- what was wrong with the model.siz that required a change to make the new list work?

FatherTed · « **Reply #9 on:** July 31, 2003, 07:47:39 am »

Just to clarify something. I already have some Fleetdock 13 and War Refit mods that I like for different hull classes. Do I dl the smaller pack and then plug the appropriate mod into the proper folder?

Bonk · « **Reply #11 on:** July 31, 2003, 09:08:48 am »

Smokin! Wow, that didn't take long! I can't wait to take a look but I promised to leave the OP+ 2.2 shiplist on the OP Arena for at least a few more weeks. I'll install it then if I haven't completed my own mod of the SFB_OP shiplist. I'm kind of busy on a job hunt right now, I got two really good prospects on the go. Once I get settled back into a new job I'll probably put some more time in on the mod I'm working on. Your's is getting closer to what I intended with each release, so keep it up and I may not have to do anything at all!

One thing you might want to consider, people may not have the stock files in place when this is installed, thus the files backed up by the installer may not be stock. In the installer I just created for LB4 I included the stock files in the uninstaller itself, no files are backed up, to avoid that possibility. I guess it's just a design decision, each approach with it's own logic. (The problem with my approach being an update required for each patch of the game, but that will likely come to an end soon for OP and is no longer a problem for EAW) In any case, congratulations on another job well done, as well as setting the standard for use of the NSIS. (Now we just need to get Nuclear Wessels on board...)

May the flying staplers never see the light of day again!

FatherTed · « **Reply #12 on:** July 31, 2003, 10:15:06 am »

So far, I love it! One question though. The R-PFT is showing up on mod viewer as a Centurion. Is this correct?

Dogmatix! · « **Reply #13 on:** July 31, 2003, 12:11:34 pm »

Awesome, man...

I dig...

Lepton1 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 31, 2003, 12:29:48 pm »

I can't understand all your model choices. Some appear to be half textured (the fed tug plus for instance). Others have poor models for which there are clearly superior options. For instance, you use lord schtupp's fed frig model which is awesome but not his CA model which is one of the best around, equal to athrasis' work. No P81 excelsior, no WickedZombie CA. I wish you had chosen the best models around or at least picked a theme (best TOS models, best TMP models) and put them into to mod instead of what seems like a sort of podge-bodge of models of varying detail. For instance you use P81's Miranda model which is great but then put in another for the NCA which is not nearly as compelling as P81's model. No slight intended toward the modellers or the modder here, but there doesn't seem to be much of a unifying theme in your fed and klink choices where the most models exist and the most care must be taken in making choices. The other races are well represented in the mod largely due to the fact that few models exist so those are indeed the best available. Hope this doesn't seem like a slam. It is great you put this together but I don't get your model choices.

Strafer · « **Reply #16 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:35:13 pm »

Not necessarily, Bonk. OP+ 3.0 comes in 2 flavours.
Regular, and extra models. Both are 100% compatible with each other thanks to the installer's settings.

AdmiralFrey_XC · « **Reply #18 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:59:46 pm »

I wanted to clarify that I am almost 99.9% sure FireSouls OP Plus 3 is fully compatible with the new OP patch (2.5.4.12) as there were no changes in the shiplist that I am aware of.

I'm sure FS will confirm this

Regards,

Strafer · « **Reply #20 on:** July 31, 2003, 03:41:14 pm »

Ok, I misread that. I thought you were apologising in advance for having large downloads imposed on modem users.

Bonk · « **Reply #21 on:** July 31, 2003, 04:40:40 pm »

NP, It was a bit apolgetic in tone, not so much for the size of downloads, but the frequency at which new ones are required. I've had a few complaints about that, I plan to leave the OP Arena as is until I have to move or until I finish my own mod which will be a while yet. (I just finished updating the server to 25412 and OP+ 3.0, with NW's standard OP Missions pack.)

Klingon Fanatic · « **Reply #27 on:** July 31, 2003, 05:52:51 pm »

Firesoul, thank you for your fine effort! The many of models you assembled have the added bonus of being hard to find. The following models appear to be missing:

ICC
ICM
RKCR
Ktug (Missing Romtug version)

I d/l this mod at 12:30PM EST today 7/31/03.

BTW: I did notice you are using the FASA Romulan Z-1 Nova as a Rom BB. Any chance you'll do SFB/SFC stats for other FASA ships? I had a daydream you listed the Chandley as a Commando Heavy Cruiser, LOL.

I LOVE the Lyran and Hydran Tugs!

THANK YOU so much.

P.S. Are you going to do an update now that the .12 patch is out?

Best wishes,

KF

Fahrenheit · « **Reply #28 on:** July 31, 2003, 05:59:37 pm »

the fighter list was updated in 2.5.4.12. Does this impact OP+?

Can we just modify the start date on the type III Hydran fighters after re-installing OP+?

F°
"The principal part of faith is patience." -- George Macdonald

Strafer · « **Reply #29 on:** July 31, 2003, 06:19:42 pm »

F, I do believe the dates are EAW-correct for the fighters to begin with. It's stock that had to catch up.

VelvetAcidChrist · « **Reply #32 on:** August 01, 2003, 03:55:32 pm »

sorry firesoul but if i see that my z-ccx has no mirvs and got 4 b rack drones instead- whats that,it deserves MIRV s.

dderidex · « **Reply #36 on:** August 01, 2003, 10:27:14 pm »

Question before I start installing/uninstalling things.

I tried the mod-pack with ships.

Rather cool, and I like how much time you've saved me!

Or...maybe saved me.

Does the pack without ships use the seperate 'opplus' folder under the main directory for all the additions, too? If so...errr...crap. That's REALLY annoying - means there is two places I have to look every time I want to replace a model. When you are talking about 200+ models....that's a little irritating. All the model directories (even the new ones) should be under 'assets\models', IMHO.

Only one other comment on an otherwise excellant effort - err...seperate model for the CA? I can see using the 1701-no-suffix and others for 'early years' versions of the ships (and that's what I've done in my own shiplist), but I'd rather see the 'default' be the TMP models. IE, Federation CA up points at the FCA directory. Having an FECA is fine - I like that idea - but it should really have a different shiplist entry - the Federation YCA, not having the CA use it.

(At least according to SFB - the CA, CA+, CAR, CAR+, CC, etc are all the same hull. Only the YCA is different.)

dderidex · « **Reply #38 on:** August 02, 2003, 12:57:07 am »

No what?

Ignore my comments above!

The seperate model folder for the new ships is a pain, but only a minor one. I've replaced all the desired Fed and Klingon models so far (working on Roms), and it really isn't that bad.

As to too many hull types (breaking on the EY, for example) - n/m that, too! No such thing as breaking too many out. If I don't think it needs a new model, I can just copy over another folder and rename a few files. Problem solved!

This is definately very nice!

dderidex · « **Reply #42 on:** August 02, 2003, 01:24:39 am »

Riiiight....sure....TV....uh-huh

Anyway, I do have at least one suggestion. Make copies of the 'kdd' and 'kff' folder for the Romulan versions of them.

We like our own paint jobs on our ships, thankyouvery much.

dderidex · « **Reply #43 on:** August 02, 2003, 01:28:36 am »

Oh, and one more.

The Skyhawk and Seahawk should have seperate folders, as well.

FireSoul · « **Reply #44 on:** August 02, 2003, 01:50:46 am »

I would have to agree. I know for a fact I did not split all model pointers, and that would be work for the future.. There's going to be a lot of those splits..

.. but for now I am resting and playing.

FireSoul · « **Reply #45 on:** August 02, 2003, 01:53:42 am »

The screenshots above are indeed very nice, bu are misleading as to the contents of this mods. I am not using any of those.
-- Luc

Johnulus · « **Reply #48 on:** August 02, 2003, 11:42:29 pm »

I have a little problem I was wondering if someone could help with and I am unsure where to post so I figured this was the best place.
I installed OP in my D: drive, patched to 25412 and installed opplus_30_models but for some reason in game the new ships do not have skins on them they show as all white or grey when cloaked, it is the correct model but no skin.
The stock ships have skins.

I'm not sure what info you will require to diagnose my problem, so I submit the following:
This is where Oppulus Mods went : D:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates\opplus\models
This is where Models are : D:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates\Assets\Models
Properties of oppulus\models folder are : Size 223 mb, Files 2 856, folders 143.
I checked Shiplist.txt and it is changed : Romulan, CA, R-FFH-K ......states its this model R-FFH-A OPPLUS/MODELS/RBC/RBC.MOD, I checked folder is present in oppulus\models.

I installed the refit last night before going on GSA to fly with some fleet mates to test things out, that is when I first noticed the problem, one of my fleet mates said, "he had the same problem and just copied all folders etc over manually". So I tried that I copied all folders within Oppulus\models into taldrens models folder, then manually transfered all remaining files shiplist, model.siz, etc. This did not work, so I left the game completly un-installed everything down loaded all new files and re-installed, started up game all excited and then seen a plain white FFH-K

I can fly the ships that way but would really like to see what they look like, especially after hearing the oooo's & ahhhhh's of my mates in the game.

Not sure if you need system specs but will give them anyway, No Laughing !!
AMD K6/333 cyrix 2
Voodoo 3, Amigamerlin 2.9 drivers with Wicked GL
96 mb EDO Ram

Thanks for your time,
Johnulus.

FireSoul · « **Reply #49 on:** August 02, 2003, 11:57:19 pm »

Did you, at some time in the past, install in a different path on your HDs? It could be that it can't find the OPPLUS directory because of a registry problem.

What's the value for this registry key on your machine?
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Taldren\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates\Directory

Does it match the directory where SFC:OP is installed?

Possibility #2:
Are you starting the game with a shortcut? Does it have the working directory path set? (Start in:)
If yes, is it correct?

-- Luc

Johnulus · « **Reply #50 on:** August 03, 2003, 09:38:00 pm »

Yes I did have OP installed in a differant directory the other night D:\program files\john games\OP.
Since then I have un-installed everything, deleted leftover folders, deleted all registry entries containing Orion Pirates, re-installed OP,patch,refit.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Taldren\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates\Directory is D:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc.\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates.

I also have this in registry with no directory in it : HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Taldren Software Inc.\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates ( I added string value,Directory "D:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc.\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates" ) No affect. ( I also tried deleting Directory from above and leaving this one) No affect.

Target of shortcut: "D:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates\StarFleetOP.exe"
Start in : "D:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates"

OP is installed in : D:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates
Oppulus is here : D:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates\opplus

Ships I select are correct models and damage textures appear on models, just no skins.

FireSoul · « **Reply #51 on:** August 03, 2003, 09:48:43 pm »

Then I really don't know.. sorry.
Maybe, for you, the no-models version is best?

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #52 on:** August 03, 2003, 10:35:06 pm »

I'd try deleting all registry enries for OP and doing a fresh install.
If that doesn't work all I can suggest is checking for a driver update. Maybe check your video card settings?
If the stock models work, I don't know why the custom ones don't. Unless your card doesn't like them?

Dogmatix! · « **Reply #55 on:** August 05, 2003, 12:35:44 pm »

If someone is "insulted" then I'm sorry. I feel it perfectly proper to voice my opinion on the merits of just about anything I see here, though.

I didn't like those models, that's all...heheh.

Johnulus · « **Reply #57 on:** August 05, 2003, 08:55:52 pm »

Thank you for your replies Gentlemen,
I believe it is my Video card causing the problem and will upgrade it in the near future.
I got a copy of Mod Viewer today and was going through the ships having a look and not all new ships as I originally thought are white only some ( most Roms) show up with no skins.
I have since re-installed and am using 3.0 no models, everything is working fine.

Thanks Again,

Johnulus

FireSoul · « **Reply #58 on:** August 06, 2003, 11:08:26 am »

Someone in a different thread and forum was wondering if stats could be generated based on how many people downloaded the mod. (In that thread, Bonk's.)

I applied it to my site. An interesting idea..
Let's see..
.. Since august 3rd, 110 different IPs tried to download my OP+ 3.0. That counts for both versions of the installer.
.. between July 27th and Aug3rd, 8:30am, another 216 different IPs.

The total so far is 326 downloads to unique IP addresses.
Wow.

Gamester · « **Reply #59 on:** August 07, 2003, 11:06:12 am »

Just wanted to point out to you, Firesoul, that the number is not inclusive of all users. For example, I downloaded your OP+ 3.0 w/Models and applied it to 7 different computers (LAN Party). "Low" Number of Downloads != Low Number of Users.

Gamester

P.S. - Your mod is great! I am SOOOOOOOOO glad I don't have to manually add the Feral Yards Lyrans and the TMP Gorns myself. I have done that for 2 different versions of your shiplist and it sure is a %^&#$ to do. (I always end up screwing up a path or model name somewhere and have random crashes *sigh*)

FireSoul · « **Reply #60 on:** August 07, 2003, 11:23:55 am »

I know. That's why I said IPs. Similarly, be aware that a dial-up user downloading, crashing midway, reconnecting and completing a download would could for 2 IPs.

We can't tell how many users have downloaded, just how many IP addresses.

FireSoul · « **Reply #61 on:** July 31, 2003, 12:18:30 am »

I know it's only been 2 weeks, but this is pretty much all I've been doing these last couple of weeks.

The OP+ Project Mod is ready. I've updated the webpages, and made the downloads available to the public.

1- What's new?
Models. I have created a version of the shiplist which points to models that I have found perfect for this game, and included them in a package. The package is 35mb in size. It takes up about 230mb of HD space once installed. Many thanks to all the people who created all these great models I have included in this package.

2- What if I can't download 35mb?
There's a 2nd downloadable for you. It's only 251kb (same as before, more or less). BUT it still will take about 230mb of space on your HD. It copies the models needed from the Taldren stock models directory.

3- I don't download one package for the shiplist, then the other for the models?
No. Both are full installations of the package. If you want to switch from one to the other, uninstall the first one and install the other. (Use Add/Remove Programs)

4- I don't have that much free space on my HD.
.. sorry. Can't help you there.

5- I thought this was a shiplist project only. What happened?
I was bored.

Here are the links:
http://klingon.stasis.ca/OP_plusrefit/opplus_30_models.exe (35mb installer, includes models I meticulously picked)
http://klingon.stasis.ca/OP_plusrefit/opplus_30_no_models.exe (251kb installer.)

Main Site Link, with FAQs:
http://klingon.stasis.ca/OP_plusrefit/

-- Luc

Drakenred · « **Reply #62 on:** July 31, 2003, 01:16:11 am »

God help us when your realy REALY board, you may just figure out how to code in the Andromidans.

Lepton1 · « **Reply #63 on:** July 31, 2003, 01:58:00 am »

Hmm, will I be able to swap out the shiplist and still have the stock shiplist pointing to the correct model folders? Or have you included some sort of swapping mechanism program like those used in current D2 campaigns??? Are these hi-res models?? Are these models going to slow my game to a crawl or make it jumpy??

FireSoul · « **Reply #65 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:35:42 am »

I seem to continually get the same concerns from people. I don't know what batch files people use to swap shiplists back and forth, but.. Once installed, there's going to be a opplus/ directory. In there are the OP+ files, and a backup/ directory. The backup/ directory contain the files that were installed within OP at that moment.

You can use these files, and swap them back and forth if you're comfortable with the process. You can also copy them into your own swapping methods.

-- Luc

Lepton1 · « **Reply #66 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:49:54 am »

Sorry to be so anal, FS. Great work by the way, One problem so far. The fed BCH and DN models got switched, ie the BCH model is in the DN folder and the DN model is in the BCH folder. I discovered that quite by accident looking for a P81 excelsior which I was surprised not to find. Anyway, you might want to check to see if anything else is getting switched. Sorry. Also some of the fed models don't appear to have all their textures completed. The fed tug plus for example. Regular tug looks fine and beautiful. Wow, what a model!!!

jdmckinney · « **Reply #68 on:** July 31, 2003, 06:54:41 am »

I think I missed something along the way -- what was wrong with the model.siz that required a change to make the new list work?

FatherTed · « **Reply #70 on:** July 31, 2003, 07:47:39 am »

Just to clarify something. I already have some Fleetdock 13 and War Refit mods that I like for different hull classes. Do I dl the smaller pack and then plug the appropriate mod into the proper folder?

Bonk · « **Reply #72 on:** July 31, 2003, 09:08:48 am »

Smokin! Wow, that didn't take long! I can't wait to take a look but I promised to leave the OP+ 2.2 shiplist on the OP Arena for at least a few more weeks. I'll install it then if I haven't completed my own mod of the SFB_OP shiplist. I'm kind of busy on a job hunt right now, I got two really good prospects on the go. Once I get settled back into a new job I'll probably put some more time in on the mod I'm working on. Your's is getting closer to what I intended with each release, so keep it up and I may not have to do anything at all!

One thing you might want to consider, people may not have the stock files in place when this is installed, thus the files backed up by the installer may not be stock. In the installer I just created for LB4 I included the stock files in the uninstaller itself, no files are backed up, to avoid that possibility. I guess it's just a design decision, each approach with it's own logic. (The problem with my approach being an update required for each patch of the game, but that will likely come to an end soon for OP and is no longer a problem for EAW) In any case, congratulations on another job well done, as well as setting the standard for use of the NSIS. (Now we just need to get Nuclear Wessels on board...)

May the flying staplers never see the light of day again!

FatherTed · « **Reply #73 on:** July 31, 2003, 10:15:06 am »

So far, I love it! One question though. The R-PFT is showing up on mod viewer as a Centurion. Is this correct?

Dogmatix! · « **Reply #74 on:** July 31, 2003, 12:11:34 pm »

Awesome, man...

I dig...

Lepton1 · « **Reply #75 on:** July 31, 2003, 12:29:48 pm »

I can't understand all your model choices. Some appear to be half textured (the fed tug plus for instance). Others have poor models for which there are clearly superior options. For instance, you use lord schtupp's fed frig model which is awesome but not his CA model which is one of the best around, equal to athrasis' work. No P81 excelsior, no WickedZombie CA. I wish you had chosen the best models around or at least picked a theme (best TOS models, best TMP models) and put them into to mod instead of what seems like a sort of podge-bodge of models of varying detail. For instance you use P81's Miranda model which is great but then put in another for the NCA which is not nearly as compelling as P81's model. No slight intended toward the modellers or the modder here, but there doesn't seem to be much of a unifying theme in your fed and klink choices where the most models exist and the most care must be taken in making choices. The other races are well represented in the mod largely due to the fact that few models exist so those are indeed the best available. Hope this doesn't seem like a slam. It is great you put this together but I don't get your model choices.

Strafer · « **Reply #77 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:35:13 pm »

Not necessarily, Bonk. OP+ 3.0 comes in 2 flavours.
Regular, and extra models. Both are 100% compatible with each other thanks to the installer's settings.

AdmiralFrey_XC · « **Reply #79 on:** July 31, 2003, 02:59:46 pm »

I wanted to clarify that I am almost 99.9% sure FireSouls OP Plus 3 is fully compatible with the new OP patch (2.5.4.12) as there were no changes in the shiplist that I am aware of.

I'm sure FS will confirm this

Regards,

Strafer · « **Reply #81 on:** July 31, 2003, 03:41:14 pm »

Ok, I misread that. I thought you were apologising in advance for having large downloads imposed on modem users.

Bonk · « **Reply #82 on:** July 31, 2003, 04:40:40 pm »

NP, It was a bit apolgetic in tone, not so much for the size of downloads, but the frequency at which new ones are required. I've had a few complaints about that, I plan to leave the OP Arena as is until I have to move or until I finish my own mod which will be a while yet. (I just finished updating the server to 25412 and OP+ 3.0, with NW's standard OP Missions pack.)

Klingon Fanatic · « **Reply #88 on:** July 31, 2003, 05:52:51 pm »

Firesoul, thank you for your fine effort! The many of models you assembled have the added bonus of being hard to find. The following models appear to be missing:

ICC
ICM
RKCR
Ktug (Missing Romtug version)

I d/l this mod at 12:30PM EST today 7/31/03.

BTW: I did notice you are using the FASA Romulan Z-1 Nova as a Rom BB. Any chance you'll do SFB/SFC stats for other FASA ships? I had a daydream you listed the Chandley as a Commando Heavy Cruiser, LOL.

I LOVE the Lyran and Hydran Tugs!

THANK YOU so much.

P.S. Are you going to do an update now that the .12 patch is out?

Best wishes,

KF

Fahrenheit · « **Reply #89 on:** July 31, 2003, 05:59:37 pm »

the fighter list was updated in 2.5.4.12. Does this impact OP+?

Can we just modify the start date on the type III Hydran fighters after re-installing OP+?

F°
"The principal part of faith is patience." -- George Macdonald

Strafer · « **Reply #90 on:** July 31, 2003, 06:19:42 pm »

F, I do believe the dates are EAW-correct for the fighters to begin with. It's stock that had to catch up.

VelvetAcidChrist · « **Reply #93 on:** August 01, 2003, 03:55:32 pm »

sorry firesoul but if i see that my z-ccx has no mirvs and got 4 b rack drones instead- whats that,it deserves MIRV s.

dderidex · « **Reply #97 on:** August 01, 2003, 10:27:14 pm »

Question before I start installing/uninstalling things.

I tried the mod-pack with ships.

Rather cool, and I like how much time you've saved me!

Or...maybe saved me.

Does the pack without ships use the seperate 'opplus' folder under the main directory for all the additions, too? If so...errr...crap. That's REALLY annoying - means there is two places I have to look every time I want to replace a model. When you are talking about 200+ models....that's a little irritating. All the model directories (even the new ones) should be under 'assets\models', IMHO.

Only one other comment on an otherwise excellant effort - err...seperate model for the CA? I can see using the 1701-no-suffix and others for 'early years' versions of the ships (and that's what I've done in my own shiplist), but I'd rather see the 'default' be the TMP models. IE, Federation CA up points at the FCA directory. Having an FECA is fine - I like that idea - but it should really have a different shiplist entry - the Federation YCA, not having the CA use it.

(At least according to SFB - the CA, CA+, CAR, CAR+, CC, etc are all the same hull. Only the YCA is different.)

dderidex · « **Reply #99 on:** August 02, 2003, 12:57:07 am »

No what?

Ignore my comments above!

The seperate model folder for the new ships is a pain, but only a minor one. I've replaced all the desired Fed and Klingon models so far (working on Roms), and it really isn't that bad.

As to too many hull types (breaking on the EY, for example) - n/m that, too! No such thing as breaking too many out. If I don't think it needs a new model, I can just copy over another folder and rename a few files. Problem solved!

This is definately very nice!

dderidex · « **Reply #103 on:** August 02, 2003, 01:24:39 am »

Riiiight....sure....TV....uh-huh

Anyway, I do have at least one suggestion. Make copies of the 'kdd' and 'kff' folder for the Romulan versions of them.

We like our own paint jobs on our ships, thankyouvery much.

dderidex · « **Reply #104 on:** August 02, 2003, 01:28:36 am »

Oh, and one more.

The Skyhawk and Seahawk should have seperate folders, as well.

FireSoul · « **Reply #105 on:** August 02, 2003, 01:50:46 am »

I would have to agree. I know for a fact I did not split all model pointers, and that would be work for the future.. There's going to be a lot of those splits..

.. but for now I am resting and playing.

FireSoul · « **Reply #106 on:** August 02, 2003, 01:53:42 am »

The screenshots above are indeed very nice, bu are misleading as to the contents of this mods. I am not using any of those.
-- Luc

Johnulus · « **Reply #109 on:** August 02, 2003, 11:42:29 pm »

I have a little problem I was wondering if someone could help with and I am unsure where to post so I figured this was the best place.
I installed OP in my D: drive, patched to 25412 and installed opplus_30_models but for some reason in game the new ships do not have skins on them they show as all white or grey when cloaked, it is the correct model but no skin.
The stock ships have skins.

I'm not sure what info you will require to diagnose my problem, so I submit the following:
This is where Oppulus Mods went : D:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates\opplus\models
This is where Models are : D:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates\Assets\Models
Properties of oppulus\models folder are : Size 223 mb, Files 2 856, folders 143.
I checked Shiplist.txt and it is changed : Romulan, CA, R-FFH-K ......states its this model R-FFH-A OPPLUS/MODELS/RBC/RBC.MOD, I checked folder is present in oppulus\models.

I installed the refit last night before going on GSA to fly with some fleet mates to test things out, that is when I first noticed the problem, one of my fleet mates said, "he had the same problem and just copied all folders etc over manually". So I tried that I copied all folders within Oppulus\models into taldrens models folder, then manually transfered all remaining files shiplist, model.siz, etc. This did not work, so I left the game completly un-installed everything down loaded all new files and re-installed, started up game all excited and then seen a plain white FFH-K

I can fly the ships that way but would really like to see what they look like, especially after hearing the oooo's & ahhhhh's of my mates in the game.

Not sure if you need system specs but will give them anyway, No Laughing !!
AMD K6/333 cyrix 2
Voodoo 3, Amigamerlin 2.9 drivers with Wicked GL
96 mb EDO Ram

Thanks for your time,
Johnulus.

FireSoul · « **Reply #110 on:** August 02, 2003, 11:57:19 pm »

Did you, at some time in the past, install in a different path on your HDs? It could be that it can't find the OPPLUS directory because of a registry problem.

What's the value for this registry key on your machine?
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Taldren\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates\Directory

Does it match the directory where SFC:OP is installed?

Possibility #2:
Are you starting the game with a shortcut? Does it have the working directory path set? (Start in:)
If yes, is it correct?

-- Luc

Johnulus · « **Reply #111 on:** August 03, 2003, 09:38:00 pm »

Yes I did have OP installed in a differant directory the other night D:\program files\john games\OP.
Since then I have un-installed everything, deleted leftover folders, deleted all registry entries containing Orion Pirates, re-installed OP,patch,refit.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Taldren\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates\Directory is D:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc.\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates.

I also have this in registry with no directory in it : HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Taldren Software Inc.\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates ( I added string value,Directory "D:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc.\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates" ) No affect. ( I also tried deleting Directory from above and leaving this one) No affect.

Target of shortcut: "D:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates\StarFleetOP.exe"
Start in : "D:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates"

OP is installed in : D:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates
Oppulus is here : D:\Program Files\Taldren Software Inc\Starfleet Command Orion Pirates\opplus

Ships I select are correct models and damage textures appear on models, just no skins.

FireSoul · « **Reply #112 on:** August 03, 2003, 09:48:43 pm »

Then I really don't know.. sorry.
Maybe, for you, the no-models version is best?

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #113 on:** August 03, 2003, 10:35:06 pm »

I'd try deleting all registry enries for OP and doing a fresh install.
If that doesn't work all I can suggest is checking for a driver update. Maybe check your video card settings?
If the stock models work, I don't know why the custom ones don't. Unless your card doesn't like them?

Dogmatix! · « **Reply #116 on:** August 05, 2003, 12:35:44 pm »

If someone is "insulted" then I'm sorry. I feel it perfectly proper to voice my opinion on the merits of just about anything I see here, though.

I didn't like those models, that's all...heheh.

Johnulus · « **Reply #118 on:** August 05, 2003, 08:55:52 pm »

Thank you for your replies Gentlemen,
I believe it is my Video card causing the problem and will upgrade it in the near future.
I got a copy of Mod Viewer today and was going through the ships having a look and not all new ships as I originally thought are white only some ( most Roms) show up with no skins.
I have since re-installed and am using 3.0 no models, everything is working fine.

Thanks Again,

Johnulus

FireSoul · « **Reply #119 on:** August 06, 2003, 11:08:26 am »

Someone in a different thread and forum was wondering if stats could be generated based on how many people downloaded the mod. (In that thread, Bonk's.)

I applied it to my site. An interesting idea..
Let's see..
.. Since august 3rd, 110 different IPs tried to download my OP+ 3.0. That counts for both versions of the installer.
.. between July 27th and Aug3rd, 8:30am, another 216 different IPs.

The total so far is 326 downloads to unique IP addresses.
Wow.

Gamester · « **Reply #120 on:** August 07, 2003, 11:06:12 am »

Just wanted to point out to you, Firesoul, that the number is not inclusive of all users. For example, I downloaded your OP+ 3.0 w/Models and applied it to 7 different computers (LAN Party). "Low" Number of Downloads != Low Number of Users.

Gamester

P.S. - Your mod is great! I am SOOOOOOOOO glad I don't have to manually add the Feral Yards Lyrans and the TMP Gorns myself. I have done that for 2 different versions of your shiplist and it sure is a %^&#$ to do. (I always end up screwing up a path or model name somewhere and have random crashes *sigh*)

FireSoul · « **Reply #121 on:** August 07, 2003, 11:23:55 am »

I know. That's why I said IPs. Similarly, be aware that a dial-up user downloading, crashing midway, reconnecting and completing a download would could for 2 IPs.

We can't tell how many users have downloaded, just how many IP addresses.

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