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Quote: Author Topic: How to run D2 from your LAN. GooseEnsign Posts: 959Registered: Dec 2000 posted 08-30-2001 04:41 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------I am just checking to see if there is still an interest in this topic.I inadvertantly dicovered this method while trying to set up my own server. It is not the "know all end all" to the LAN question, but it definately is a workaround at least.I will be checking back to see if people are still interseted in this, so let me know. IP: Logged sirgodEnsign Posts: 3236Registered: Dec 2000 posted 08-30-2001 05:28 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------sure Goose let me know how It works. I have a small LAN erm did , but am working on getting It back up.------------------If it where that simple why didn't you think of It?Blackops_agent_sirgodfed_9TH_fleet_legendary_officer_etc.etc. Moderated for hawkeye.Get Advice.Show off missions.Expose Cheaters.Become a Legendary Officer.http://battleclinic.homestead.com/index.html http://www.blackopsstation.com/blackops_main.htm http://www.starfleetcomms.com/ Where the Game Begins.[This message has been edited by sirgod (edited 08-30-2001).] IP: Logged GookEnsign Posts: 834Registered: Jun 2001 posted 08-30-2001 06:22 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Very interested, please post away.Thanks in anticipation.------------------GobbildiGookKZ/Mirak MOD CW ServerKAT-Gook Kzinti Hegemony,KAT-Fleet Kaptain IP: Logged SethanEnsign Posts: 4322Registered: Aug 2000 posted 08-30-2001 06:27 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------I'd like to know. I now have 3 computers that will run OP, and am acquiring more all the time... IP: Logged MogEnsign Posts: 1135Registered: Dec 2000 posted 08-30-2001 09:55 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------I too would like to know, please.------------------Merriment Is All IP: Logged darclightEnsign Posts: 83Registered: Aug 2001 posted 08-30-2001 11:19 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------I'd love to know how to do this. Then I could set up a practice server and get a couple of friends hooked on the game. IP: Logged SHG-CodexEnsign Posts: 228Registered: Feb 2001 posted 08-30-2001 01:28 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Definitely interested IP: Logged KastorEnsign Posts: 582Registered: Jul 2001 posted 08-30-2001 02:04 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------ditto IP: Logged Scipio_66Ensign Posts: 1692Registered: Feb 2001 posted 08-30-2001 02:10 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------I'd love to see this. When I put my test server up to check things, I feel guilty taking it down if people have logged on. This way I could just run my tests on a LAN and not irritate any passers by.-Allen------------------Neighbors said he was a quiet man, who kept mostly to himself. IP: Logged IKV Nemesis D7LEnsign Posts: 2121Registered: Dec 2000 posted 08-30-2001 04:46 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Definitely interested. IP: Logged GooseEnsign Posts: 959Registered: Dec 2000 posted 08-30-2001 07:13 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ok here goes?Remember this is not the ultimate answer just a workaround.Also remember, I?m trying to write this for ANYONE, so those that don?t understand networks as much, can try this too.Issues:D2 Server will not initialize unless it can contact WON.NET.Once you have contacted WON.NET, you must keep external players out.Network setup: Client/Server. This setup was not tested on a Peer-to-Peer connection.Glossary:Internal Network - That which is local to you and not available to anyone on the InternetExternal Network - The InternetProxy - The System that handles communications to the InternetPDC - The system that controls the Internal NetworkEquipment needed: (highly recommended, but if you can substitute please let everyone know of any alternatives)Network Hub- any number of ports- NOT a router or bridge, a straight HUB (there is a difference)2 ?Servers?- 1 to act as a Proxy- 1 to act as game serverProxy software- NOT a firewall program (there is a difference)- Recommended: WinProxy or MS Proxy Server 2.0Internet connectionBASIC NETWORK SETUPWhat I use on my Internal Network is as follows:12 Port HP Ethernet HUB1 Server as PDC (in my case Win 2000 Server with Active Directory, running DHCP, DNS, and WINS). This system also runs the Game Server software on a separate Partition.1 Proxy Server (in this case Win NT4 installed as a MEMBER SERVER, with MS Proxy 2.0 installed)DSL Internet connection (connected to the Proxy, NOT the hub)***SPECIAL NOTE***The reason you need 2 systems to accomplish this are as follows:1) Microsoft software will not permit it?s Proxy (NT4) to run on the same system as a PDC or NAT (2000) from running on the same system as Active Directory. This is a standard security policy to protect your servers from hackers.2) The Game Server Software uses a LOT of resources. So does putting all Network services on one Server. Split the Network and Game tasks to improve the performance all around. Even top end machines will struggle if you put all of it on one system.How they are connected:Install both servers and connect to hub with straight through cables.Install all software as outlined.Make the Proxy Server a member of PDC?s Domain.Install the Proxy client software onto the PDC (so that the PDC can ?surf? the Internet via the Proxy).SETTINGSSet the security of the Proxy to NONE or LOW (If you set it any higher the packets won?t forward properly).Enable packet forwarding on the Proxy.Open the necessary ports in the Proxy (2300-2400, 47624 & 27100 for TCP & UDP, in & out ).***CRITICAL SETUP POINT!***In the ServerSetup.gf under MyCampaign (or whatever your directory name is), under [CentralSwitchSetup], set the IP address to the INTERNAL Network IP of the server running the game software. ie:[CentralSwitchSetup]Listen = 1CentralSwitchPort = 27100CentralSwitchAddress = 198.168.x.xNOTES:Some will argue that this will render the server unconnectable. This is true, FOR EXTERNAL USERS ONLY! Because the IP is Internal, anyone logged into the Internal Network can still connect to it.Since you want only Internal users to connect, you render the server unavailable to externals by using the internal IP. But since you need WON.NET to initialize the server, you need to connect the server running the program to the Internet.TCP/IP must be installed on all Internal Client machines (for compatibility sake).Users must log into the Internal Network in order to use the Proxy (this is standard for a Client/Server setup anyway). Proxy Client must be installed on all system attached to the Internal Network (standard on Client/Server with Internet Access).You can have as many people connected to your server as the Internal network will allow. Users logging into your server still require a D2 login, because WON.NET still has to validate them in order to access the Server program.I had four people on my Server, Internally for two hours. No crashes, no interference from other Players.ADVANTAGES:Only you and your buddies can play in this setup (no interference).Rules are easily enforced (everyone is in the same room).The campaign can be heavily customized (ie: only two races).The Campaign can be saved until the next you get together and play.DISADVANTAGES:The server still appears on the Dynaverse list to EVERYONE. Please have consideration to others by describing the server as a PRIVATE server or similar. ENJOY![This message has been edited by Goose (edited 08-30-2001).][This message has been edited by Goose (edited 08-30-2001).]
Quote: Author Topic: LAN D2 campaign- how? TaimatExtra in Red Shirt Posts: 4Registered: Dec 2002 posted 01-10-2003 03:44 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------I am interested in playing a campaign with a couple friends of mine, but we all want to use the same SFC2 cd. I don't want to join the big dynaverse campaigns, just a private 3 player game within the LAN- is this possible? If so, what do I need to get, and do, to host this game? Will I need a dedicated server to keep it running all the time, or can I just save it like in single player?If anyone can help me out I would appreciate it, thanks IP: Logged Bob GrahamEnsign Posts: 651Registered: Nov 2001 posted 01-10-2003 05:48 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------As I understand it (But this subject hasent come up for several months) you cant play within the LAN. I am byfar no expert tho, so you may want to wait for a professional opinon before giving up all hope.------------------Co-Fleet Admrial SSTFBobG, Rank 9, SSTF on temparary loan to the Federation Protection Fleet President, PETJlopedogge@hotmail.com"The Federation is my home..." IP: Logged CleavenEnsign Posts: 1774Registered: Dec 2001 posted 01-10-2003 06:04 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------If I understand you correctly you want to run a D2 server just for your friends on your LAN, and use one copy of EAW. This is not possible if my understanding of the game is correct.There are simple ways to only have your friends on the server, but they must all have their own CD keys to get past the log-in.It may be possible to set up a server inside a LAN and only have players inside that LAN be able to join, but I suspect you won't get past the log-in. And the server will still have to be listed on the Dynaverse Campaign Selector server that lists all the public servers. Support for LAN parties is something that should be patched into the game but I think it may be very hard to do because of the requirement for CD keys (I do not support the idea of one copy of the game being used for a LAN party - each player should have their own). IP: Logged Chupakabra1Extra in Red Shirt Posts: 5Registered: Dec 2002 posted 01-10-2003 06:31 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------You do not need to have the cd in the computer to play on the dynaverse. I haven't had my cd in mine for months, but I dont know how to set up a LAN though, so that's my two cents on the topic IP: Logged CleavenEnsign Posts: 1774Registered: Dec 2001 posted 01-10-2003 06:51 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------quote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by Chupakabra1:You do not need to have the cd in the computer to play on the dynaverse. I haven't had my cd in mine for months, but I dont know how to set up a LAN though, so that's my two cents on the topic--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Of course you don't need the CD in the drive, but you do need a CD key and access to the CD key server if you want to play on the D2. If you want to you can demonstrate this for your own edification by editing your registry to remove the EAW key entry and see how far you can go with playing before you get asked for a key.There has already been a lot of commentary by the SFC3 chattering classes on the necessity for having a game CD in the drive. IP: Logged LeftWingExtra in Red Shirt Posts: 3Registered: Jan 2003 posted 01-10-2003 07:50 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------What about server software for other games, say the Half-Life Dedicated server? It can run in LAN-mode and online, and it also uses the WON Directory Servers.I doubt it could be that hard for Taldren even to release a quick hack which just bypasses WON Login for a LAN mode server? IP: Logged TaimatExtra in Red Shirt Posts: 4Registered: Dec 2002 posted 01-11-2003 11:43 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------It's ok guys, thanks for the help I didn't think I could, so no loss. IP: Logged rajnsajEnsign Posts: 360Registered: Sep 2002 posted 01-11-2003 05:58 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------This might help...?How to run D2 from your LAN. ------------------... my ghost likes to travel ... IP: Logged LeftWingExtra in Red Shirt Posts: 3Registered: Jan 2003 posted 01-11-2003 06:46 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------while im sure that works, its a really terrible solution How hard could it be to skip over the WON routines in a server you have the source code for, for a simple LAN mode?Even if you released a special extra server package just for LAN play, while thats a second download and a messy solution at least it would be a solution... IP: Logged CleavenEnsign Posts: 1774Registered: Dec 2001 posted 01-11-2003 07:23 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------I suppose you could get somebody to change the Dynaverse option to a LAN game without any security, and disable the single player and other multiplayer options. Distribute this executable with the modified LAN only server kit and put it in the same directory as the normal executable. Of course you know who to talk to about this. IP: Logged LeftWingExtra in Red Shirt Posts: 3Registered: Jan 2003 posted 01-11-2003 08:00 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Taldren I guess? IP: Logged GooseEnsign Posts: 1016Registered: Dec 2000 posted 01-12-2003 06:54 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Thanks Rajnsaj for posting that link, I was having trouble finding it.UPDATEData in the link posted.The Proxy server can be replaced with a standard router with the necessary ports opened, thus eliminating the need for one server(computer).The SFCserver can be run from ANY computer behind the router, as long it is not a machine being played on.Domain login is not needed if all machines are connected to the router/hub. Just hook the computers to the router and use standard Internet setup.------------------AKA: KAT-M'Ress, KOTH RedfurKLAW Member
Quote:David Ferrell very kindly just put the old forum files back up for us temporarily so I'll copy those two threads here:<snip>If anybody needs anything from the old forum files and you know where to find it, grab it fast!I'll get to that D2 server behind a router summary yet...
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