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Lepton1

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SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« on: July 25, 2003, 11:39:17 am »
Is there a place where I can get a current chart of weapons damage over differing ranges and charge and hold costs.  I have a paper chart that came with EAW but I doubt that it is completely accurate.

Ifrit

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2003, 11:40:47 am »
 
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jimmi7769

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2003, 11:45:54 am »
he's looking for info for SFC2 not SFC3.

FireSoul

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2003, 03:12:30 pm »
Quote:

Is there a place where I can get a current chart of weapons damage over differing ranges and charge and hold costs.  I have a paper chart that came with EAW but I doubt that it is completely accurate.  




I'm not sure.. the manual? .. then correct it following the readme.txt

jimmi7769

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2003, 04:03:39 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

Is there a place where I can get a current chart of weapons damage over differing ranges and charge and hold costs.  I have a paper chart that came with EAW but I doubt that it is completely accurate.  




I'm not sure.. the manual? .. then correct it following the readme.txt  




I looked around at all of the major known sites and I think this is probably the only way you're going to get this info.

3dot14

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2003, 04:40:10 pm »
I don't think that the damage and hit% (save the MP-P (magic photon, proxy edition Is it still in the game?)) charts have changed much at all. Accurate info can still be obtained from manuals.

What's been changing the most through the patches is the holding cost and charging cost of weapons.

FireSoul

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2003, 05:22:45 pm »
Quote:

I don't think that the damage and hit% (save the MP-P (magic photon, proxy edition Is it still in the game?)) charts have changed much at all. Accurate info can still be obtained from manuals.

What's been changing the most through the patches is the holding cost and charging cost of weapons.  




Then check the readmes for the info.
.. ie: Plasmas, and HBs..

FPF_TraceyG

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2003, 09:21:53 pm »

Corbomite

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2003, 10:11:18 pm »
Lepton, I don't know if you want these, but here they are for the G2 and A/B Phasers in OP


Ph-G2

Range: 0 1 2 3 4-8 9-15 16-30 31-50
-------4 4 4 4--4---3-----2-----1
-------4 4 4 4--4---3-----2-----1
-------4 4 4 4--3---2-----2-----1
-------4 4 4 3--3---2-----1-----0
-------4 4 4 3--2---2-----1-----0
-------3 3 3 2--1---1-----0-----0



Ph-A

Range: 0-1 2-4 5-6 7-10 11-16 17-20 21-24 25-31 32-40
--------9---8---7---6-----5-----5-----4------3-----2
--------8---7---6---5-----5-----4-----3------2-----1
--------7---5---5---4-----4-----4-----3------1-----0
--------6---4---4---4-----4-----3-----2------0-----0
--------5---4---4---4-----3-----3-----1------0-----0
--------4---4---3---3-----2-----2-----0------0-----0




Ph-B NOTE: This is damage on bare hull. Against shields it is 1/3 of listed.

Range: 0-1 2-4 5-6 7-10 11-16 17-20 21-24 25-31 32-40
--------15-15--13--13----9------9-----6-----6-----2
--------15-15--13---9----9------6-----6-----3-----2
--------15-15--13---9----6------6-----3-----2-----2
--------15-15---9---6----6------3-----3-----2-----0
--------15-15---9---0----0------0-----0-----0-----0
--------15--0---0---0----0------0-----0-----0-----0  

Lepton1

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2003, 11:54:42 pm »
Turns out OP has a manual with range and damage info although it differs from the info on the EAW lamenated card that has range and damage info which leads me to believe that the EAW info may not be correct.  I was mostly concerned with dizzie hit chart as it seems even though one should have a 67% hit chance at 16-22, experience is not bearing that out.  Anyway, I was looking for something definitive, even more so now in that the two sources differ, but it may not exist.

Thanks to everyone for looking about for me.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Lepton1 »

jimmi7769

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2003, 09:10:38 am »
Quote:

Turns out OP has a manual with range and damage info although it differs from the info on the EAW lamenated card that has range and damage info which leads me to believe that the EAW info may not be correct.  I was mostly concerned with dizzie hit chart as it seems even though one should have a 67% hit chance at 16-22, experience is not bearing that out.  Anyway, I was looking for something definitive, even more so now in that the two sources differ, but it may not exist.

Thanks to everyone for looking about for me.




Nope, the 16-22 bracket is correct.  hits 67% but only does 2 points damage.  that the UIM effect from SFB hits at the next best range bracket while doing the true range damage.

Lepton1

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2003, 11:23:51 am »
The EAW card has it hitting for 3 at 16-22 which I thought was fantastic, but I assume that was a misprint. And I still say it is not hitting 67% from that range.  Guess I need to test it out.

jimmi7769

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2003, 11:53:26 am »
Mine hit pretty good at that range.  But you're still gonna miss 33% of the time and sometimes the 33% seems to come up 75% of the time.   Just the luck of the dice eh??
 

Lepton1

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SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2003, 11:39:17 am »
Is there a place where I can get a current chart of weapons damage over differing ranges and charge and hold costs.  I have a paper chart that came with EAW but I doubt that it is completely accurate.

Ifrit

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2003, 11:40:47 am »
 
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jimmi7769

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2003, 11:45:54 am »
he's looking for info for SFC2 not SFC3.

FireSoul

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2003, 03:12:30 pm »
Quote:

Is there a place where I can get a current chart of weapons damage over differing ranges and charge and hold costs.  I have a paper chart that came with EAW but I doubt that it is completely accurate.  




I'm not sure.. the manual? .. then correct it following the readme.txt

jimmi7769

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2003, 04:03:39 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

Is there a place where I can get a current chart of weapons damage over differing ranges and charge and hold costs.  I have a paper chart that came with EAW but I doubt that it is completely accurate.  




I'm not sure.. the manual? .. then correct it following the readme.txt  




I looked around at all of the major known sites and I think this is probably the only way you're going to get this info.

3dot14

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2003, 04:40:10 pm »
I don't think that the damage and hit% (save the MP-P (magic photon, proxy edition Is it still in the game?)) charts have changed much at all. Accurate info can still be obtained from manuals.

What's been changing the most through the patches is the holding cost and charging cost of weapons.

FireSoul

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2003, 05:22:45 pm »
Quote:

I don't think that the damage and hit% (save the MP-P (magic photon, proxy edition Is it still in the game?)) charts have changed much at all. Accurate info can still be obtained from manuals.

What's been changing the most through the patches is the holding cost and charging cost of weapons.  




Then check the readmes for the info.
.. ie: Plasmas, and HBs..

FPF_TraceyG

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2003, 09:21:53 pm »

Corbomite

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2003, 10:11:18 pm »
Lepton, I don't know if you want these, but here they are for the G2 and A/B Phasers in OP


Ph-G2

Range: 0 1 2 3 4-8 9-15 16-30 31-50
-------4 4 4 4--4---3-----2-----1
-------4 4 4 4--4---3-----2-----1
-------4 4 4 4--3---2-----2-----1
-------4 4 4 3--3---2-----1-----0
-------4 4 4 3--2---2-----1-----0
-------3 3 3 2--1---1-----0-----0



Ph-A

Range: 0-1 2-4 5-6 7-10 11-16 17-20 21-24 25-31 32-40
--------9---8---7---6-----5-----5-----4------3-----2
--------8---7---6---5-----5-----4-----3------2-----1
--------7---5---5---4-----4-----4-----3------1-----0
--------6---4---4---4-----4-----3-----2------0-----0
--------5---4---4---4-----3-----3-----1------0-----0
--------4---4---3---3-----2-----2-----0------0-----0




Ph-B NOTE: This is damage on bare hull. Against shields it is 1/3 of listed.

Range: 0-1 2-4 5-6 7-10 11-16 17-20 21-24 25-31 32-40
--------15-15--13--13----9------9-----6-----6-----2
--------15-15--13---9----9------6-----6-----3-----2
--------15-15--13---9----6------6-----3-----2-----2
--------15-15---9---6----6------3-----3-----2-----0
--------15-15---9---0----0------0-----0-----0-----0
--------15--0---0---0----0------0-----0-----0-----0  

Lepton1

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2003, 11:54:42 pm »
Turns out OP has a manual with range and damage info although it differs from the info on the EAW lamenated card that has range and damage info which leads me to believe that the EAW info may not be correct.  I was mostly concerned with dizzie hit chart as it seems even though one should have a 67% hit chance at 16-22, experience is not bearing that out.  Anyway, I was looking for something definitive, even more so now in that the two sources differ, but it may not exist.

Thanks to everyone for looking about for me.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Lepton1 »

jimmi7769

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2003, 09:10:38 am »
Quote:

Turns out OP has a manual with range and damage info although it differs from the info on the EAW lamenated card that has range and damage info which leads me to believe that the EAW info may not be correct.  I was mostly concerned with dizzie hit chart as it seems even though one should have a 67% hit chance at 16-22, experience is not bearing that out.  Anyway, I was looking for something definitive, even more so now in that the two sources differ, but it may not exist.

Thanks to everyone for looking about for me.




Nope, the 16-22 bracket is correct.  hits 67% but only does 2 points damage.  that the UIM effect from SFB hits at the next best range bracket while doing the true range damage.

Lepton1

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2003, 11:23:51 am »
The EAW card has it hitting for 3 at 16-22 which I thought was fantastic, but I assume that was a misprint. And I still say it is not hitting 67% from that range.  Guess I need to test it out.

jimmi7769

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Re: SFC 2 Weapons damage chart??
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2003, 11:53:26 am »
Mine hit pretty good at that range.  But you're still gonna miss 33% of the time and sometimes the 33% seems to come up 75% of the time.   Just the luck of the dice eh??