Topic: Star Trek Franchise in Trouble?  (Read 5748 times)

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Tulwar

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Re: Star Trek Franchise in Trouble?
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2003, 05:44:26 pm »
Another funny:  I don't remember the name of the episode, "Road to Bable..." something like that, where Spock has to give his father a blood transplant, Kirk gets stabbled, ship full of diplomats, ect, they catch an infiltratraiter.  He was not an Orion, but DISGUISED AS AN ORION!  Ha!  Ha!  

Tulwar

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Re: Star Trek Franchise in Trouble?
« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2003, 05:47:00 pm »
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dude whats a photo torpedo? i dont think thats been used in any st series or film  hehe  




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vsfedwards

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Re: Star Trek Franchise in Trouble?
« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2003, 05:48:49 pm »
hheehe im only kidding dude...heehhehe  

robb__30

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« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2003, 05:53:21 pm »
I seem to remember an episode on TOS where the Enterprise was investigating attacks on starbases along the Romulan border.  It was a Romulan ship under cloak.  The Enterprise fired a volley of photon torpedos to try and find them.  It worked.  Does anyone remember this episode?  I can't remember the name of the episode.  

EmeraldEdge

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« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2003, 06:16:36 pm »
I believe the episode you are talking about is "Balance of Terror" and I think they used phasers there too.  Could be wrong, I have the episode on DVD though so it would be really easy to check.  

Javora

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Re: Star Trek Franchise in Trouble?
« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2003, 08:00:08 pm »
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they need it to get as far away from the upn network as possible and get it into syndication.. if tng was only on upn, it would have flamed as well.  




Syndication isn't the breadwinner that it used to be.  Market share is in decline in part, of all things, infomercials.  Infomercials have guaranteed money revenue as the airtime is already bought and paid for.  Viacom knows this fact and is currently bidding on Vivendi's Sci-Fi channel.  It is widely assumed that a Viacom owned Sci-Fi channel would be a clearinghouse for all things Trek.  It is the hopes that if Viacom buys out Sci-Fi channel that Viacom will return the Sci-Fi channel to its science fiction roots instead of the cheap horror flick, Flintstone movie showing dren that it has become.  The only reason I know this is because I have taken an interest in the Farscape series that was canceled almost a year ago.  The Save Farscape web site is taking a real interest in the sale of Sci-Fi channel and is hoping that Viacom will win the current bidding war.  People can read about the on going bidding of the Sci-Fi channel at this section of the Save Farscape  here.
 

Tulwar

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Re: Star Trek Franchise in Trouble?
« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2003, 08:05:10 pm »
It is called "Balance of Terror," and the set the PHASERs to proximity fuse!  

Lieutenant_Q

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Re: Star Trek Franchise in Trouble?
« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2003, 08:56:07 pm »
"Journey to Babel", since someone brought it up.

"Photon Torpedoes 2, 4 and 6, full spread."  Kirk

"Full spread Missed Sair." Chekov

Might as well also mention "The Changeling"

"Our screens have just absorbed energy equal to ninety of our Photon Torpedoes" Spock
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James Formo

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« Reply #48 on: July 25, 2003, 09:23:12 pm »
I have not been able to watch an entire episode of Enterprise yet.  I made an effort to a few times,  but I didn't like how they changed ST to action packed. In one show I watched I was actually rooting against Capt. Archer. They made him out to be insensitive and the bad guy imo, at least in the show I was watching.  He took offense to the guy who was piloting the 1st ship that broke warp2. Then actually cold cocked the pilot with his fist with no provocation.  It just made him out to be a jerk and he is suppose to be the hero of the show?

I guess I watched the other ST shows as a diversion from reality. With the fist fighting now in Enterprise the show seems to mirror reality. Thus it is not a diversion anymore.  Plus They rely on showing that Vulcan chick too much.  They are trying to sell it with sex and violence. To me this signifies a lack of creativity.  

Johanobesus

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« Reply #49 on: July 26, 2003, 12:15:35 am »
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they need it to get as far away from the upn network as possible and get it into syndication.. if tng was only on upn, it would have flamed as well.  




Syndication isn't the breadwinner that it used to be.  Market share is in decline in part, of all things, infomercials.  ...
   




Another problem is that there are fewer independent stations now than there were ten years ago.  With the FOX-CBS dance and then WB and UPN, just about every station is spoken for.  That means they have network programming to run in prime time, and sports on the weekends, so syndicated shows get sent to late night.  That's what happened to DS9 and B5 in Atlanta when the station showing them went to CBS.  If Enterprise went into syndication, who would show it?  

Gosh, I remember when I was a kid we got to watch TNG and all sorts of other syndicated shows on Saturday nights, Friday the 13th and that Freddy Krueger anthology show and that monster show and that awful War of the Worlds series.  Most of those pretty cheesy, but they were fun for a 13-14 year-old
 

Tulwar

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Re: Star Trek Franchise in Trouble?
« Reply #50 on: July 26, 2003, 04:33:41 am »
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"Journey to Babel", since someone brought it up.

"Photon Torpedoes 2, 4 and 6, full spread."  Kirk






I stand corrected.  Thanks.  

Blyre

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« Reply #51 on: July 26, 2003, 10:44:55 pm »
Mr. Braga's comment emphasizes the severe shortsightedness that he and Mr. Berman has displayed since taking over the day to day controls of the franchise. Going off the hope that attracting new fans while driving off the old fan base is, in my opinion, a recipe for disaster.

Wallace
 

Scipio_66

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Re: Star Trek Franchise in Trouble?
« Reply #52 on: July 27, 2003, 02:42:13 am »
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Another funny:  I don't remember the name of the episode, "Road to Bable..." something like that, where Spock has to give his father a blood transplant, Kirk gets stabbled, ship full of diplomats, ect, they catch an infiltratraiter.  He was not an Orion, but DISGUISED AS AN ORION!  Ha!  Ha!  




He was an Orion.  He was disguised as an Andorian.

-S'Cipio

Tulwar

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Re: Star Trek Franchise in Trouble?
« Reply #53 on: July 27, 2003, 07:51:07 am »
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He was an Orion.  He was disguised as an Andorian.

-S'Cipio  




Maybe I shoule subscribe to the SF channel.  I haven't seen TOS in a long time.  Thanks for the correction.