Topic: The Repair Que. A Little Balance Please (Read 7571 times)

Azrael · « **on:** February 02, 2003, 08:58:34 am »

Hey guys,

Anyone who has played Klingon or Romulan and either on purpose or by accident tried to repair a damaged cloaking device will be aware that the said repair takes forever to complete.

While I appreciate the fact that as a "complicated peice of technology", and it's appropriate to take such a long time to mend, I would appreciate being able to cancel the Repair Cloak job so that I am able to repair weapons and power systems that suddenly become priority.

Too many times, I've almost been killed because I can't get my idiot engineers to stop working on the cloak and fix things so that we can shoot back.

Please consider this.

Azrael

Stormbringer · « **Reply #1 on:** February 02, 2003, 03:23:39 pm »

I may be wrong but I think you can remove the cloak or any other item from the repair cue by clicking on it again (in the cue). I also thought that the cloak simply could not be repaired in a mission.

Thanos1 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 02, 2003, 03:28:51 pm »

It's a well known bug and will be fixed in the (alleged) patch. Until then, don't repair the cloak when it gets damaged, and try to convince other people not to target your cloak so as not to exploit a known bug (good luck doing that).

-suleo

THORN · « **Reply #3 on:** February 02, 2003, 03:42:50 pm »

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try to convince other people not to target your cloak so as not to exploit a known bug (good luck doing that).

-suleo

thats the stupidest thing i have ever heard !!!! it is a KNOWN BUG!!!! if u pick a cloaking ship then u assume the risk. IN combat u use EVERY advantage u can find to kill ur enemy before he kills u. there is no crying in baseball... u cant run home to mommy just because someone shot ur cloak .... SH*T happens in combat. deal with it and move on

if u dont want people targeting ur cloak then dont fly a cloaked ship

its that simple

Blitzkrieg · « **Reply #6 on:** February 02, 2003, 04:57:28 pm »

lol this arguement has been done before, simply put you cant expect some people to be reasonable. They would rather win by a cheap shot at a game flaw which was clearly not intended. The answer of, "just dont repair it if it gets broke" is even worse. I suggest every silly person wishing to say "you cant expect people not to target cloak", that they stop playing Feds and try Roms.

Cloak targeters are lame, but you can understand that some people need to use cheese to get ahead. Too bad that the bug is going to be fixed soon, eh?

Furthermore, if you fight well enough they will be taking so many internals that the cloak well get broak anyway

THORN · « **Reply #7 on:** February 02, 2003, 05:32:44 pm »

lets be clear about one thing ...... i never said i target the cloak. In point of fact, I target one subsystem above all others .... the warp core!!!! they cant fight back if they have no power. BUT, i stand by my argument. if its a known bug and u decide to play a cloaked ship, then u assume the risks. end of discussion... and a bad player is one that doesnt take advantage of any and all situatitions that become apparent.

only whinny noobs would be crying about their cloak getting shot. Its not cheating and its not unsportsman like. there is a FLAW IN THE GAME deal with it, and move on. I for one welcome the patch correcting the cloak bug then i wont have to listen to u sissies cry like a little girl with a skinned knee!!!! Anyone who whines about somone targeting their cloak should NOT be playing the game.

There are plenty of other exploitable bugs, it drives me up the wall that this is the one everyone crys about. WHAA, WHAA ,... ITS NOT FAIR.... U SHOT MY CLOAK U CHEATER.... WHAA ....WHAA .......MOMY .......HE BROKE MY G.I.JOE !!!!! WHAA WHAA WHAA

GET A LIFE, GROW UP, AND GROW A SAC !!!!

Reverend · « **Reply #12 on:** February 02, 2003, 10:24:33 pm »

Oh Lord, he targets the warp core, too? A real warrior fights as he/she wishes to be fought, fairly. Your skill is determined by your ability, courage, and honor; not by silly cheap shots. Maybe the crew's families' quarters should be targetable too, just for him.

Alexander1701 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 03, 2003, 12:40:48 am »

Now now, guys. There is absolutely nothing wrong with targetting any subsystem you want to. On the dynaverse, targetting warp and cloak are the only way to prevent someone from running. Having said this, it should not be a target strictly because of the error... but I doubt it would be. Most romulan players will not cloak. Cloak needs work as it stands. And, to be fair, if he manages to scrap both your warp and your cloak, you just weren't paying enough attention. It is wrong to try to use a bug to your advantage, but its also wrong NOT to disable the cloak simply because of this. I think its fair that he should target whatever he wants. It is, after all, a GAME. I don't really see the tactical advantage to targetting the cloaking device, but that's just me. Maybe its because I play Romulan, and we can't hit if we target other than hull very often. So, in my oppinion, with the exception of borg warp core, subsystem targetting isn't that great, unless you're the federation, who never miss. But that's another string.

Alexander

Blitzkrieg · « **Reply #15 on:** February 03, 2003, 05:05:02 am »

Yes even before the patch, I have finaly started to realise the advantage of cloak. It may have some bugs, the sub system not being repairable is one of them, but Im not overly concerned. Basicaly, Talren said they have FIXED (meaning it was broke) the repair time for the cloak sub system as to allow it to be repaired in a REASONABLE amount of time.

As for saying I would cry if you destroyed my cloak, I would think nothing of it. Despite carrying a level 5 cloak on my Negh'var I dont use it unless a clear "cloaking" situation arrises, I would be too buisy taking down the shields and then armour of your Soverign. One day though, you will realise how good you Fed players have it, when the Romulans are rueling almost every server. The cloak and distinct draw that the Romlans have for good players, will mean any advantage you thought you had, will be a distant dream.

Man I'm mumbling, basicaly this guy thinks we should all play Fed and Borg and every cloaking race should be desposed of due there weakness, as that WILL make FOR an interesting GAME.

Aves · « **Reply #17 on:** February 03, 2003, 07:55:28 am »

I'm not sure what I think on this topic

While the point that it's unsportsman-like to target a component that can't be repaired due to a bug is valid. Its seems just as unsporting to use a ship which has a vital component which if targeted is gone for good; when subsystem targeting is an established part of the game (and then feel that for everything to be fair, they are to ignore your weakness).

Its like arming your medics with your squad heavy weapon, and being upset when you foe starts picking off medics at the beginning of every engagement. Even if its because for some reason only medics can carry these weapons until your new recruits make it to the front.

Now yes, I know its not real life, but if you expect (as a Rom or Klink) for opponents not to target your cloak, there would need to be some established sacrifice on your part too (if we're looking for "fairness").

Cocomoe · « **Reply #18 on:** February 03, 2003, 09:20:57 am »

We get to many reports on the GFL server about targeting the cloak, bubye.

We have specific rules in place about bug abuse, what's the point of playing if you can't repair
or repair anything else if your cloak is hit. Since you can't not equip your ship with a cloak, not much
you can do but play on servers that have bug rules in place.

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