Topic: models and permissions -- included in a package.

[Rogue]

Hey, was just thinking about this. Most of the tugs havn't been done aside from TOS kind of textures.

Let's start with the following

Federation

1. CLV (Eras of War)
2. HDW (FD13) Massod. TOS engines?
3. TUG (Schtupp's)
4. BTL (War Refit Spacedock) I can offer a retouched one
4. DD  (Eras of War) Saladin
5. FA,small Lotus Flower
6. FFX must email
7. AuxCVL
9. CVS (Eras of War)
10 NVS, Gallant (JRStandfast; Starfleet Universe)

Klingon

1. B8 Combined Dreadnought (FD13)
2. TUG (FD13)
3. FA, small (FD13)
4. RCL (FD13)
5. C10 (FD13)
6. KTG (FD13)


Romulan

1. KVL (FD13)
2. DMH (Custom)
3. DNL, Shrike (FD13)
4. STK, Starhawk pseudo fighter - Feral
5. FE Freight Eagle (FD13)
6. DNE Eraly Dreadnought; Broadwing at STCD
7. BB King Condor. custom
8. DD Battlehawk, custom
9. RFR Warbird, Anduril's bop at FD13 (the essential bop for any era)
10 RDN, Atrahasis's NNeikha because it is too good. Need to resize it to DN
11 Ferals RBC, RLN and FHK are choice
12 TUG, Whipporwill, Klingon Fanatic's. Can't Find.
13 Many Klingon varients from Eras of War, Klingon/Romulan


Mirak
1. Tug pack FD13, youv'e already seen.
2. CM by email. Good for medium cruiser. Compatable

ISC
1. Some additional models from SFC Italia  - http://www.multiplayer.it/sfc/iscmod.htm - I have all of these. All match the Taldren ISC stye.
   - 2 ea CL
                     - 1ea DN, FF, HDD, CVA, CC (unavailable. will have to email)  


Gorn   - Feral (Also DDW, Viper. Must email)
Lyran  - Feral
Hydran - Feral (additional base stations and some tugs; Mckinly)(D7 Anarchist;)
LDR    - Feral


Starfleet Universe - http://www.strategyplanet.com/sfc/ships.shtml

Nightsoft; Eras of War -  http://www.nightsoftware.com/erasofwar/shipyard.html

 
Fed: Middle era frigates
-DW  Abbe class DD

Fed; middle era light cruisers
- Saladin  FDD

Fed; middle era cruisers
-BCV Hornet  Strike Carrier
-CVL Oriskanay  light carrier

STCD (Starfleet Clan Directory) - http://www.stcd.sgnonline.com/network/sfcmods.htm
-Broadwing Early DN (Good KVL) no pic

Lord Schtupp Models - http://www.frost-works.com/schtupp/index.htm
-FTUG - (TOS, but quality)  FTUG

Other sites that may have useful models that fit your parameters.
- Feral, of course - http://www.feralyards.co.uk/
- New Galviston - http://nightsoftware.com/compictures/pataflafla/index.htm  (this is where the Fed FX Goliad is)
- Moonrakers models -  http://www.strategyplanet.com/sfc/omega/shipyards/moonraker/moonraker.shtml (mostly TNG but could be some help)
- Spyders Stardocks - http://www.geocities.com/spydermurphy/stardock/ some Hydran options. Possible tug option
- Staryards, Cleeve - http://www.staryards.com/ a lot of good stuff

Assume anything I have is available to you. If not listed above I probably couldn't remember where it is but can get it to you. I have an RDD and RBB you might like. Both are retextures and are a darned site better than the Taldren models.


         

[FireSoul]

Many MANY of those are excellent, but are overkill. .. or underkill.. or I didn't like them.

.. I actually like the Taldren KDNs and KBBs... even though the FD13's KDNs are a lot more accurate.
.. but I will definitely investigate all you have listed below. If I find anything I like better than I already have collected, I will replace mine with it.


BTW, in Taldren's style, I tend to prefer TMP-era Models, unless it is indeed for an old ship.. such as the unrefitted F-CA.


Thank you very much for all of this.  

[Klingon Fanatic]

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12 TUG, Whipporwill, Klingon Fanatic's. Can't Find.


Assume anything I have is available to you. If not listed above I probably couldn't remember where it is but can get it to you. I have an RDD and RBB you might like. Both are retextures and are a darned site better than the Taldren models.

 

Rogue,

Thanks for mentioning me. It's nice to know some folks take notice of me I would like to see your RBB!



The Whipoorwill tug is here:

http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~sfc/files/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=%20581

My Leigon RDD retexture can be seen here:



http://www.klingonfanatic4.20m.com/images/rdd1.jpg



http://www.klingonfanatic4.20m.com/images/rdd2.jpg

The second picture is in game battle damaged.

I have a few Suvwl' Qeh variants at STMODDIRECTORY including a Romulanized version and one with Red/brown textures by Moonraker...

Qapla!

KF  

[Klingon Fanatic]

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.. I actually like the Taldren KDNs and KBBs... even though the FD13's KDNs are a lot more accurate.

 FireSoul,

Have a look at these:



http://klingonfanatic2.20m.com/images/scr00061.jpg



http://klingonfanatic2.20m.com/images/scr00058.jpg

Is this more like what you are looking for in a KDN?

Qapla!

KF
 

[FireSoul]

I wasn't looking for a KDN replacement.. but that's not bad at all.

[Lord Schtupp]

Cool mod: No problem using the FTug: note that the registeries are interchangable between the 0,1, and 2 pod versions.

TTFN    

[FireSoul]

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Cool mod: No problem using the FTug: note that the registeries are interchangable between the 0,1, and 2 pod versions.

TTFN    

I saw. It looks good. Thanks

[Rogue]

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Many MANY of those are excellent, but are overkill. .. or underkill.. or I didn't like them.

.. I actually like the Taldren KDNs and KBBs... even though the FD13's KDNs are a lot more accurate.
.. but I will definitely investigate all you have listed below. If I find anything I like better than I already have collected, I will replace mine with it.


BTW, in Taldren's style, I tend to prefer TMP-era Models, unless it is indeed for an old ship.. such as the unrefitted F-CA.


Thank you very much for all of this.  
 

Firesoul, You are very welcome. I understand this will be a daunting task to find a few models that fit with your OP+ refit shiplist.    (BTW, let me say I really appreciate the work you put into it. The best thing I can say about it is many of those specs make for really fun ships to play. In particular the HDW's and DNL's)    

 I take it you have in mind to be as discriminating as possible to keep the download as small and useful as possible. That probably means a proper Tug, monitor, HDW and a few odd ships to represent the missing ships you are adding. Your screwed for monitors. The only one I've ever seen is Heaves Eagle's Fenlon Monitor. And that's an FASA design. And tugs are almost nonexistant in a style that is compatable with Taldrens models. Anyway, best wishes putting this together and hope a few kitbashers feel inclined to lend a helping hand with this. You never know, there was never a need for some of these until your project came around.

 Hmm, try this for a generic monitor hull. It is a large merchant freighter retextured as an aux cvl. To me it looks believable in this role.   http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~sfc/files/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=246

[FireSoul]

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I take it you have in mind to be as discriminating as possible to keep the download as small and useful as possible. That probably means a proper Tug, monitor, HDW and a few odd ships to represent the missing ships you are adding. Your screwed for monitors. The only one I've ever seen is Heaves Eagle's Fenlon Monitor. And that's an FASA design. And tugs are almost nonexistant in a style that is compatable with Taldrens models. Anyway, best wishes putting this together and hope a few kitbashers feel inclined to lend a helping hand with this. You never know, there was never a need for some of these until your project came around.

I'm trying to be as discrimating as possible to put in models for things that fit in, and fit in well. I'm trying to make it fun, not necessarily accurate. ;>

.. as for Monitors, I've been using Taldren's xmmer models for some time now. It seems to be good enough for the job, to be honest. They make much better monitors than Pirate CVAs.

[FireSoul]

Rogue --

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ISC
1. Some additional models from SFC Italia - http://www.multiplayer.it/sfc/iscmod.htm - I have all of these. All match the Taldren ISC stye.
- 2 ea CL
- 1ea DN, FF, HDD, CVA, CC (unavailable. will have to email)

Can you help me get to these? I don't have an account there to download, and don't understand 1/2 of what is said.
-- Luc

Edit: I think I managed. Altavista's BabelFish helped out.

[Rogue]

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Rogue --

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ISC
1. Some additional models from SFC Italia - http://www.multiplayer.it/sfc/iscmod.htm - I have all of these. All match the Taldren ISC stye.
- 2 ea CL
- 1ea DN, FF, HDD, CVA, CC (unavailable. will have to email)

Can you help me get to these? I don't have an account there to download, and don't understand 1/2 of what is said.
-- Luc  

No problem. These are fairly simple kitbashes of Taldren ISC models. I'm not sure if one can download anything from this site anymore. Usefulness would be to diversify the ISC library. All of these are warships from FF through DN and CVA sizes.

I am also including a Hydran Chatlain carrier. It is heavy destroyer in size. I use it for that purpose and and for light carriers.

PS, I just caught your message when I started to send these. I'll check back and see if you need anything. On second thought I will send the Hydran anyway as it is fairly small and a good ship.  

[FireSoul]

I got them..
.. do you know to whom I should give credit for this work? (ISC)

[Rogue]

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I got them..
.. do you know to whom I should give credit for this work? (ISC)  

Sorry, I don't know who made them. No info in any of the read me's.  

[Klingon Fanatic]

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I got them..
.. do you know to whom I should give credit for this work? (ISC)  

I am 99% certain that Crymson did the ISC ships you are referring to FireSoul.


KF

[Reverend]

If you need me to grab a couple, I can read Italian, a little bit.. enough to get the gist of it.  

[FireSoul]

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If you need me to grab a couple, I can read Italian, a little bit.. enough to get the gist of it.  

I managed with an online translator: BabelFish. Thanks tho. I think I just finished with the ISC.

[FireSoul]

Who made the FDE?
 http://www.nightsoftware.com/erasofwar/federation/middle/light/fde%2Ehtml

-- Luc

[FireSoul]

how can I get to Klingon Fanatic's KDN?

[Rogue]

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Who made the FDE?
 http://www.nightsoftware.com/erasofwar/federation/middle/light/fde%2Ehtml

-- Luc  

Nightsoft isn't responding at the moment. The title page for Eras of War tells who kitbashed them. I'll post it here when I find out. As far as KF's KDN goes, I bet you will hear from him soon. You can get JRStandfast's model at Starfleet Universe but I think you would make KF's day if you used his. And if you do that you can use the KBB from the D2 mod for the B11 and it would look right because that's where the textures come from for KF's KDN. I don't think he has a download site other than a model or two at Starfleet Universe file repository.

Edit; OK, Eras of War models look like they are the work of Nightstorm. He gives credit to Moonraker and Pneumonic81 for the source models. ( BTW, I love this site. I downloaded everything on it and commited it to a zip disc when I had access to a cable modem line) The Abbe class makes for a spiffy heavy destroyer (and there is a carrier version) and the Baker is what I'm using for a Heavy war destroyer. May not be accurate but shoot, I'm not sure what they are supposed to look like anyway.

[FireSoul]

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Who made the FDE?
 http://www.nightsoftware.com/erasofwar/federation/middle/light/fde%2Ehtml

-- Luc  

Nightsoft isn't responding at the moment. The title page for Eras of War tells who kitbashed them. I'll post it here when I find out. As far as KF's KDN goes, I bet you will hear from him soon. You can get JRStandfast's model at Starfleet Universe but I think you would make KF's day if you used his. And if you do that you can use the KBB from the D2 mod for the B11 and it would look right because that's where the textures come from for KF's KDN. I don't think he has a download site other than a model or two at Starfleet Universe file repository.

Edit; OK, Eras of War models look like they are the work of Nightstorm. He gives credit to Moonraker and Pneumonic81 for the source models. ( BTW, I love this site. I downloaded everything on it and commited it to a zip disc when I had access to a cable modem line) The Abbe class makes for a spiffy heavy destroyer (and there is a carrier version) and the Baker is what I'm using for a Heavy war destroyer. May not be accurate but shoot, I'm not sure what they are supposed to look like anyway.

Thanks..
.. so far I've been using a "shrunk down" Constellation (with the 4 warps)..
.. seems to work ok.    .. although that may change , dunno yet.