Topic: WOuld be nice if i could play it @.@ SFC3 Crashes (Read 5594 times)

EasyCheese · « **on:** July 11, 2003, 06:31:04 am »

What can i say , it crashes , with this error , and ive updated hoping it would be fixed via patch , but no avail .

Unhandled Exception! in Version 1.01 Beta 2 Build 500
SFC3.EXE caused an EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION in module TAL3DENGINER.DLL at 0187:07E76BBE

EAX=00000000 EBX=0129D987 ECX=C15795D0 EDX=8189EF84 ESI=08FA6298
EDI=02000001 EBP=0129D968 ESP=0129D954 EIP=07E76BBE FLG=00010246
CS=0187 DS=018F SS=018F ES=018F FS=4FBF GS=0000

0187:07E76BBE (0x00000664 0x00000020 0x00000664 0x02000001) TAL3DENGINER.DLL
0187:07E7730F (0x00000664 0x00000020 0x00000664 0x02000001) TAL3DENGINER.DLL
0187:BFF63613 (0x50376A00 0x00005037 0x00000000 0xBFF619B8) KERNEL32.DLL, Ordinal121()+1879 byte(s)
0187:BFF848F7 (0x0129E040 0xBFF6186D 0x69DA4FC7 0x00000000) KERNEL32.DLL, UTUnRegister()+2523 byte(s)

well there it is . for the love of warp drive HELP !

David Ferrell · « **Reply #1 on:** July 11, 2003, 12:27:15 pm »

Try setting your desktop to 16 bit color mode prior
to play.

If that doesn't help, you should post your system
specs.

Thanks,

Dave

EasyCheese · « **Reply #2 on:** July 11, 2003, 11:31:25 pm »

Still doesnt work , and what specific system specs ? oh and it did work once ,but had to go to some really horrid vid mode . and i cant remember how it did it ,

Corbomite · « **Reply #3 on:** July 12, 2003, 12:31:59 am »

Make and model of your CPU, video and sound card make and specs, OS etc, etc...

Also, try updating to your latest drivers from the manufacturer of your cards.

EasyCheese · « **Reply #4 on:** July 12, 2003, 04:22:17 pm »

Operating System: Windows Me (4.90, Build 3000)
Processor: Intel Celeron, ~700MHz
Memory: 190MB RAM
Hard Drive: 7112 MB Space Available, 29291 MB Space On Drive
Video Card: Intel(r) 82810 Graphics Controller 4.12.01.2576
Monitor: HP Pavilion 15 inch Display
Display Info: 1024 x 768 (16 bit)(optimal refresh rate)
Pointing Device: Mouse
Sound Card: Crystal WDM Audio

And all drivers are updated .

dmp114 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 12, 2003, 04:30:57 pm »

What video card do you have?
Go to start then run and type in dxdiag to see if everything is all right. Try updating to DX9 might fix some things.

EasyCheese · « **Reply #6 on:** July 12, 2003, 04:36:05 pm »

every thing is running correctly , and i have dx9

Tulwar · « **Reply #7 on:** July 12, 2003, 05:02:41 pm »

You're computer is simply not powerful enough to run the game. Activision lied about the sytem requirements. If you bought another stick of RAM, went into your CMOS and increase your vidio to memory to 32MB, it might run. I had the same problem, but the game just doesn't intrist me, so I simply wiped it from my HD.

EasyCheese · « **Reply #8 on:** July 12, 2003, 05:06:16 pm »

well crap , i have my slots of RAM all full -.- , i must buy bigger ram !

David Ferrell · « **Reply #9 on:** July 12, 2003, 05:47:16 pm »

Did you download either the beta patch or the DX9 patch?

With DX9 installed, you will have to have one or the other.

Thanks,

Dave

Dash Jones · « **Reply #10 on:** July 12, 2003, 09:14:29 pm »

Could you post a DXdiag...or at least the drivers for your Intel integrated card?

Intel integrated is good enough to run it, however, if you have DX9, you may have some problems. The Integrated card MIGHT have some problems later in the game I would imagine, as your processor is only a 700 mhz (enough to run the game, but not very well). You said that you had it set to a funky configuration? With Intel Integrated Chips that's not a good thing...AND if it's not a DX problem...could be at the heart of the matter. I would suggest a complete reinstall of the OS with an Update of the bios for your Intel Chip drivers as well...if possible (If I recall, they do update them, however, updating an Integrated chip is a major...you know what).

Next thing to check...once again, referring to the conflicts with your Graphics...make sure there aren't any conflicts in drivers and programs. Do the movies run. Test it out with the Bink Player. If the movies are not running, try running the game with the movies disabled, and see if the game starts up that way.

Good luck. I've run the game on a system almost EXACTLY like the one you are running it on (except it only had 128 RAM at the time). I don't do the internet or use it with the mods or patches though, it has a hard enough time running otherwise. Make sure the screen IS at 16 bit though, just second check that it hasn't reset. I think that would be defined as High Color on the Integrated chips as opposed to True Color which is 24 bit (but I think it is 32 bit on the ATI I'm on right now, checking to make sure and you know what...as opposed to the other machine with ME...this one doesn't let me check the resolution by right clicking on the screen, I actually have to go to properties for that...hmm, I'll have to check that one out, maybe it's something to do with XP that changed from the 98/ME system of doing things).

I have ME on the machine I'm running to, so I think you'll have to have a DXdiag so I can compare and contrast the differences between them (what's different on your system as opposed to the one I have). No guarantees that I can figure it out though, the biggest problem I've had has been slow down in the game on that machine.

I typically play on one of the other machines though, simply because I love playing with the mods (can one say more ships...and even the Constellation Class!).

EasyCheese · « **Reply #11 on:** July 14, 2003, 12:12:57 am »

it works on my " family's " computer , and i have all the patches .

The_Pelican · « **Reply #12 on:** July 14, 2003, 10:57:23 am »

If I was to pick on anything, I'd say it was the processor. The minimum is listed as a P3 450, or an Athlon 450. The Celeron is a step down from a P3, combine that with the fact you have onboard graphics using up some of your memory, and I'd say you may not meet the minimum system requirements. Although I have heard of players getting it to work on less, the onboard graphics may be the one thing stopping you from playing.

Dash Jones · « **Reply #13 on:** July 14, 2003, 02:12:38 pm »

Quote:

If I was to pick on anything, I'd say it was the processor. The minimum is listed as a P3 450, or an Athlon 450. The Celeron is a step down from a P3, combine that with the fact you have onboard graphics using up some of your memory, and I'd say you may not meet the minimum system requirements. Although I have heard of players getting it to work on less, the onboard graphics may be the one thing stopping you from playing.

Processor is fine. I play on a machine that has exactly the same specs (but only 128 RAM) and it works fine up until you get around 25000 to 45000 prestige...at which point I have hit massive slowdown.

On the otherhand, I also play on faster more up to date machines where I install the TNZ and DOM mods to my great delight.

Lieutenant_Q · « **Reply #14 on:** July 18, 2003, 09:31:45 pm »

I have to say that the game itself is much improved after the additition of some more memory, i was running 128 but upgraded Thursday to 384, and the game doesnt lag anymore when a mine is dropped (the TNZ mod did wonders for the lag when a shuttle was deployed)

EasyCheese · « **Reply #15 on:** July 11, 2003, 06:31:04 am »

What can i say , it crashes , with this error , and ive updated hoping it would be fixed via patch , but no avail .

Unhandled Exception! in Version 1.01 Beta 2 Build 500
SFC3.EXE caused an EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION in module TAL3DENGINER.DLL at 0187:07E76BBE

EAX=00000000 EBX=0129D987 ECX=C15795D0 EDX=8189EF84 ESI=08FA6298
EDI=02000001 EBP=0129D968 ESP=0129D954 EIP=07E76BBE FLG=00010246
CS=0187 DS=018F SS=018F ES=018F FS=4FBF GS=0000

0187:07E76BBE (0x00000664 0x00000020 0x00000664 0x02000001) TAL3DENGINER.DLL
0187:07E7730F (0x00000664 0x00000020 0x00000664 0x02000001) TAL3DENGINER.DLL
0187:BFF63613 (0x50376A00 0x00005037 0x00000000 0xBFF619B8) KERNEL32.DLL, Ordinal121()+1879 byte(s)
0187:BFF848F7 (0x0129E040 0xBFF6186D 0x69DA4FC7 0x00000000) KERNEL32.DLL, UTUnRegister()+2523 byte(s)

well there it is . for the love of warp drive HELP !

David Ferrell · « **Reply #16 on:** July 11, 2003, 12:27:15 pm »

Try setting your desktop to 16 bit color mode prior
to play.

If that doesn't help, you should post your system
specs.

Thanks,

Dave

EasyCheese · « **Reply #17 on:** July 11, 2003, 11:31:25 pm »

Still doesnt work , and what specific system specs ? oh and it did work once ,but had to go to some really horrid vid mode . and i cant remember how it did it ,

Corbomite · « **Reply #18 on:** July 12, 2003, 12:31:59 am »

Make and model of your CPU, video and sound card make and specs, OS etc, etc...

Also, try updating to your latest drivers from the manufacturer of your cards.

EasyCheese · « **Reply #19 on:** July 12, 2003, 04:22:17 pm »

Operating System: Windows Me (4.90, Build 3000)
Processor: Intel Celeron, ~700MHz
Memory: 190MB RAM
Hard Drive: 7112 MB Space Available, 29291 MB Space On Drive
Video Card: Intel(r) 82810 Graphics Controller 4.12.01.2576
Monitor: HP Pavilion 15 inch Display
Display Info: 1024 x 768 (16 bit)(optimal refresh rate)
Pointing Device: Mouse
Sound Card: Crystal WDM Audio

And all drivers are updated .

dmp114 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 12, 2003, 04:30:57 pm »

What video card do you have?
Go to start then run and type in dxdiag to see if everything is all right. Try updating to DX9 might fix some things.

EasyCheese · « **Reply #21 on:** July 12, 2003, 04:36:05 pm »

every thing is running correctly , and i have dx9

Tulwar · « **Reply #22 on:** July 12, 2003, 05:02:41 pm »

You're computer is simply not powerful enough to run the game. Activision lied about the sytem requirements. If you bought another stick of RAM, went into your CMOS and increase your vidio to memory to 32MB, it might run. I had the same problem, but the game just doesn't intrist me, so I simply wiped it from my HD.

EasyCheese · « **Reply #23 on:** July 12, 2003, 05:06:16 pm »

well crap , i have my slots of RAM all full -.- , i must buy bigger ram !

David Ferrell · « **Reply #24 on:** July 12, 2003, 05:47:16 pm »

Did you download either the beta patch or the DX9 patch?

With DX9 installed, you will have to have one or the other.

Thanks,

Dave

Dash Jones · « **Reply #25 on:** July 12, 2003, 09:14:29 pm »

Could you post a DXdiag...or at least the drivers for your Intel integrated card?

Intel integrated is good enough to run it, however, if you have DX9, you may have some problems. The Integrated card MIGHT have some problems later in the game I would imagine, as your processor is only a 700 mhz (enough to run the game, but not very well). You said that you had it set to a funky configuration? With Intel Integrated Chips that's not a good thing...AND if it's not a DX problem...could be at the heart of the matter. I would suggest a complete reinstall of the OS with an Update of the bios for your Intel Chip drivers as well...if possible (If I recall, they do update them, however, updating an Integrated chip is a major...you know what).

Next thing to check...once again, referring to the conflicts with your Graphics...make sure there aren't any conflicts in drivers and programs. Do the movies run. Test it out with the Bink Player. If the movies are not running, try running the game with the movies disabled, and see if the game starts up that way.

Good luck. I've run the game on a system almost EXACTLY like the one you are running it on (except it only had 128 RAM at the time). I don't do the internet or use it with the mods or patches though, it has a hard enough time running otherwise. Make sure the screen IS at 16 bit though, just second check that it hasn't reset. I think that would be defined as High Color on the Integrated chips as opposed to True Color which is 24 bit (but I think it is 32 bit on the ATI I'm on right now, checking to make sure and you know what...as opposed to the other machine with ME...this one doesn't let me check the resolution by right clicking on the screen, I actually have to go to properties for that...hmm, I'll have to check that one out, maybe it's something to do with XP that changed from the 98/ME system of doing things).

I have ME on the machine I'm running to, so I think you'll have to have a DXdiag so I can compare and contrast the differences between them (what's different on your system as opposed to the one I have). No guarantees that I can figure it out though, the biggest problem I've had has been slow down in the game on that machine.

I typically play on one of the other machines though, simply because I love playing with the mods (can one say more ships...and even the Constellation Class!).

EasyCheese · « **Reply #26 on:** July 14, 2003, 12:12:57 am »

it works on my " family's " computer , and i have all the patches .

The_Pelican · « **Reply #27 on:** July 14, 2003, 10:57:23 am »

If I was to pick on anything, I'd say it was the processor. The minimum is listed as a P3 450, or an Athlon 450. The Celeron is a step down from a P3, combine that with the fact you have onboard graphics using up some of your memory, and I'd say you may not meet the minimum system requirements. Although I have heard of players getting it to work on less, the onboard graphics may be the one thing stopping you from playing.

Lieutenant_Q · « **Reply #29 on:** July 18, 2003, 09:31:45 pm »

I have to say that the game itself is much improved after the additition of some more memory, i was running 128 but upgraded Thursday to 384, and the game doesnt lag anymore when a mine is dropped (the TNZ mod did wonders for the lag when a shuttle was deployed)

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