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The_Infiltrator

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Re: SFCIII is too freakin hard!
« Reply #40 on: July 03, 2003, 07:00:45 pm »
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LOL

Used to play. Heh.

Frankly, people are entitled to their own opinions. And since I'm entitled to mine, and ya'll are free to skip this post, here it is. The people that disparage SFC3 as "less" of a game simply because it has less buttons on its UI are being unfair and narrow-minded.

The games (EAW/OP & SFC3) are different. Not better, not worse, different. There is no reason to be elitist, bigoted, or exclusionary. It's ok to have a favorite, but it's not ok to put down either game because "it's not like the other."

And if people try to trash-talk EAW or OP as being the perfect game for the ultimate geek because of the high learning curve and myriad little nuances and they wouldn't stoop to T-Bombing anybody because it's just silly, I would "grrrr" at them too.

When will the short-sighted arrogance about "2 vs 3" or "3 vs 2" stop, and when will people accept that we're here to have fun--and that both games will stay on your hard-drive long after you've installed and un-installed UT2003 or Command and Conquer?

RANT OFF.  

 





Look what they've done to a perfectly good Klingon (covers eyes)

NannerSlug

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Re: SFCIII is too freakin hard!
« Reply #41 on: July 03, 2003, 07:59:16 pm »
please get off the political/ego driven sfc3 is not the real sfc3 trip. sfc 3 is a very legitimate "3". in fact it is by far a more legitimate 3 than a GaW would have ever been *gasp*. the GaW some of you guys keep talking about is no more than a mere expansion pack for SFC1/2 by gaming standards... there actually would be more new in MOHAA: spear head or BF 1942: the road to rome than in what some people would label the "real" sfc3.

fact is, sfc3 made some very big leaps and has a lot of potential.. but in retrospec - many of those things are not quite fleshed out and could be corrected in a patch or an expansion pack (neither is going to happen - thank goodness for the TNZ and DW mod)..

sfc3 actually has less radical changes from 2 to 3 than say warcraft2/3..

im not saying things are perfect.. but just as some democrats say bush isnt a legitimate president, i think some people need to get past the whole 2/3 thing. if they were really smart - instead of complaining about 3 - they would have lobbied for an SDK/mod potential to add weapons and make things to where they could convert it to what ever they want it to. (that is just my opinion).

sorry for the rant.. but it just amazes me... now i doubt it will be several years before we see any sort of a trek game at all.. and the patch for sfc3 is probably gone forever.. (whether some of you like it or not - sfc3 was never given a chance.. no demo, no patch 6+ months after the release of the game - try that with any game and see where it lands)

i am just thankful for folks like the pelican and korah.

CaptainCrazy701

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Re: SFCIII is too freakin hard!
« Reply #42 on: July 03, 2003, 08:08:41 pm »
Interesting reading all these debates but I feel somewhat left out of the loop. See I haven't really played the first two so I don't understand where all this passion for debate is coming from regarding SFCIII. But I have a new question and that is tha I am in the klingons campaign and have done several "campaign required" missions but then all the sudden they stopped an now i am allowed to just go anywhere and do wahtever missions i want, mostly jhust answering distress calls and attacking abases. My question is, where did the campaign go? I feel all alone out here in space with no direction at all. Am I supposed to go around completeing all these random missions to get the story to go further?  

NannerSlug

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Re: SFCIII is too freakin hard!
« Reply #43 on: July 03, 2003, 08:15:24 pm »
play a few missions.. its probably triggered at a certain prestiege level.

3dot14

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Re: SFCIII is too freakin hard!
« Reply #44 on: July 03, 2003, 08:15:54 pm »
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Interesting reading all these debates but I feel somewhat left out of the loop. See I haven't really played the first two so I don't understand where all this passion for debate is coming from regarding SFCIII. But I have a new question and that is tha I am in the klingons campaign and have done several "campaign required" missions but then all the sudden they stopped an now i am allowed to just go anywhere and do wahtever missions i want, mostly jhust answering distress calls and attacking abases. My question is, where did the campaign go? I feel all alone out here in space with no direction at all. Am I supposed to go around completeing all these random missions to get the story to go further?  



The story continues in other races. Your last mission should be Something "Duty". Then it should shift into the next race.

And it's wrong of us to bring this debate into here. I apologize. I will shut up in this thread now.

CaptainCrazy701

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Re: SFCIII is too freakin hard!
« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2003, 08:19:14 pm »
Well I haven't shifted yet to another campaign so i guess I am supposed to go around doing missions. What do youthink I should do? Head into romulan space? Will that "trigger" something to happen? I really would like to get on with the main missions so i cna get to the otehr races. Klingons are cool and all but I long for the mighty federation ships.  

ChrsLWlstr

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Re: SFCIII is too freakin hard!
« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2003, 08:33:48 pm »
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Well I haven't shifted yet to another campaign so i guess I am supposed to go around doing missions. What do youthink I should do? Head into romulan space? Will that "trigger" something to happen? I really would like to get on with the main missions so i cna get to the otehr races. Klingons are cool and all but I long for the mighty federation ships.  




Are you continuing from a saved game?  

When I ~used~ to play SFC3, in the single player campaign, I would often have a problem with starting from a saved game, as the campaign would no longer continue.

   

CaptainCrazy701

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Re: SFCIII is too freakin hard!
« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2003, 08:51:47 pm »
yeah i'm starting from a saved game and not the auto save one. wahts up with that? I want to be able to save my progress when i want to.  

NannerSlug

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Re: SFCIII is too freakin hard!
« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2003, 08:57:19 pm »
try just gobbling up a lot of prestiege.. if and when you get enough, that might trigger the story line again.

CaptainCrazy701

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Re: SFCIII is too freakin hard!
« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2003, 10:07:51 pm »
I only have 9000 some prestige points but i did put a lot into ship upgrades, i'm currently flying a Vorcha with class 4 disruptors and dual front firing ion cannons. I've been kicking major ass with this ship but i don't get much points for doing the dinky little missions that i am taking right now. I'll keep plugging away and see what happens. btw i tired loading my auto save game and i start off at basically teh same point as my manual saved campaign but there is still no required missions so i guess i just have to wait for a trigger.  

AdmiralJaneway

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Re: SFCIII is too freakin hard!
« Reply #50 on: July 04, 2003, 09:32:42 am »
If I'm assuming your in the correct mission, there's a simple way of doing this. Refit your ship so it has high manouverability, and high shields. Next go into the mission, tractor the pirate near to the sun, and the debris will start tearing apart his shields. Fire at will, then let him go, warp back to the freightor, then simply start firing at it. Finally, when its shields go down (if it takes to long do as before but only enough to let its shields go down, not destroy it), then start transporting people to take over the ship.

You should now have the freighter captured, and the pirate destroyed.  

Hiatus

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Re: SFCIII is too freakin hard!
« Reply #51 on: July 04, 2003, 04:42:01 pm »
The excelcior class is one of my faves too, get the TNZ mod from  www.battleclinic.com and check out the lakota and chabot refits, they're wicked. definately get the mod though, so many fantastic ships.  

Aldaron

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Re: SFCIII is too freakin hard!
« Reply #52 on: July 04, 2003, 07:49:33 pm »
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Interesting reading all these debates but I feel somewhat left out of the loop. See I haven't really played the first two so I don't understand where all this passion for debate is coming from regarding SFCIII. But I have a new question and that is tha I am in the klingons campaign and have done several "campaign required" missions but then all the sudden they stopped an now i am allowed to just go anywhere and do wahtever missions i want, mostly jhust answering distress calls and attacking abases. My question is, where did the campaign go? I feel all alone out here in space with no direction at all. Am I supposed to go around completeing all these random missions to get the story to go further?  




There's a debate because SFC1/2 are based on the board game Star Fleet Battles which many here are avid fans and SFC was thier dream come true (SFB on the computer). It does stray in several areas but what game converted to the computer doesn't. SFC3 on the other hand strayed so far from the original and many beleive the tactical options have been reduced.

You will hear from both sides (Nanner is pro SFC3, while I and some others are pro SFC2/GAW). GAW by the way is a working title the pro SFB'ers came up with that we would like to see as the next incarnation of SFC which would bring it more in line to SFB. Sorry for all the abbreviations, hope you could follow that.

MarianoDT

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Re: SFCIII is too freakin hard!
« Reply #53 on: July 04, 2003, 09:01:59 pm »
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Interesting reading all these debates but I feel somewhat left out of the loop. See I haven't really played the first two so I don't understand where all this passion for debate is coming from regarding SFCIII. But I have a new question and that is tha I am in the klingons campaign and have done several "campaign required" missions but then all the sudden they stopped an now i am allowed to just go anywhere and do wahtever missions i want, mostly jhust answering distress calls and attacking abases. My question is, where did the campaign go? I feel all alone out here in space with no direction at all. Am I supposed to go around completeing all these random missions to get the story to go further?  




The same thing happened to me and i had to reload the previously saved game.
I suggest doing a few more missions and if it doesn't work you will have to load the previous saved game.
With this problem i learned to save the game after every engage.

Mariano
 

Tulwar

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Re: SFCIII is too freakin hard!
« Reply #54 on: July 07, 2003, 12:49:56 am »
Just buy SFC EAW/OP for the music score alone.  It's also fun to be able to rip the guts out of a ship (seeing you've ripped the guts out of a ship) in a single pass.  Sometimes you can make a quick kill, sometimes you have to wear the enemy down, and sometimes you just have to try to run away while you still have some engines.  In SFC3, you pound and pound, watch the hull indicator go down a little, then pound again.  I bought SFC EAW and OP new at a combined price of $85.00, and do not regret it one bit.  I paid $50.00 for SFC3, and was never able to complete the single player campaigns because it kept crashing my computer.  All of the SFCII single player campaigns worked straight out of the box, but were bugged with patches.  If you buy the earlier titles, you will not be disappointed.  

CaptainCrazy701

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SFCIII is too freakin hard!
« Reply #55 on: June 30, 2003, 04:12:19 pm »
Hi, I love playing star trek games and I was very good at star trek bridge commander but I can't even get by the 2nd mission with the klingons in single player campaign! I think the difficulty is set too high, is there  a way to change it?  This sucks cause i know how to use the wepaons pretty good, its only my 2nd day owning the game but the problem is that the enemy pirate ship constantly maneuvers so that he is neverf in a decent firing arc and the bird of prey has all weapons facing forward. I don't have enoug prestige to upgrade yet either. Its pretty frustrating that no matter how much I shoot him he keeps regenerating and repairing and I can never get a good angle on him. Plz tell me i have difficulty set on high or something.  

Cleaven

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Re: SFCIII is too freakin hard!
« Reply #56 on: June 30, 2003, 04:47:45 pm »
Just grab him in a trac2 and pound him to pieces with your forward arc heavies.

I apologise for now making the game too easy for you. The only way to fix your new problem is to buy SFC2-Orion Pirates. (I know, it's a plot but at least OP is only about $10.)
   

WDLL

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Re: SFCIII is too freakin hard!
« Reply #57 on: June 30, 2003, 05:35:16 pm »
Or just ignore the above suggestion. :-)

Use tractor beams only to repel and use your skills to out manouver your opponent and defeat him.  

If you keep circuling each other someone must break the circle.  You could for example stop chasing him, go to a straight line, when he starts following you drop a mine.  He will change course, no more merry go round.  In missions where there is more than one enemy ship this should appear much.  

CaptainCrazy701

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Re: SFCIII is too freakin hard!
« Reply #58 on: June 30, 2003, 07:07:01 pm »
Thanks for the ideas, but the otehr problem is that the freighter i am suppposed to be protecting then turns on me so i have 2 enemies to fight with my n00b ship so its quite hard. Oh well i did want a challenge anyway cause BC was too easy but i d idnt' expect to get stuck so early. its gonna be very rewarding when i do kick his ass.  

CaptainCrazy701

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Re: SFCIII is too freakin hard!
« Reply #59 on: June 30, 2003, 11:04:36 pm »
So there is no way to change the difficulty of the campaign mode? Man I spent 3 hours tonight trying to complete the 2nd mission. I tried everything, i used the tractor beam, i tried beaming gusy over, disabling systems etc etc etc, nothing I do works. This game freaking SUCKS! Why do they make it so impossibly hard. I can't believe how anyone can do any good at this game. Its rediculously slow paced and all the AI does is automatically counteracts your every move so you just end up goign around in circles all the time. I can't beleive i wasted my money on this POS game. I have to think of some way to get my money back.