Topic: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.  (Read 40295 times)

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SPQR Renegade001

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #160 on: July 08, 2003, 10:56:35 am »
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 The range penalty modifier (G13.302) is applied after the effects of No Lock-On (G13.301), so the +5 occurs after the range doubling.  




Wait a minute!!!!  That rule only applies during a leap year according to the new rule G13.301.2.  




All that is something that I will not miss from SFB. SVC must be getting kickbacks from the paper industry, or have worked in military publications at one point. I can't think of any other reason for such a cumbersome rules set for a game.

Sethan

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #161 on: July 08, 2003, 11:41:37 am »
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Hmm, doesn't sound like they used my suggested quick fix of R*2 + 6 instead of R*2 + 5.  




Not to pick nits too much - but it is (R+5)*2 not R*2 + 5.  




The range penalty modifier (G13.302) is applied after the effects of No Lock-On (G13.301), so the +5 occurs after the range doubling.  




D'OH!  You're right of course.

That's what I get for typing when my books are home and I'm half asleep.

I know the calculation well when I'm awake - that's how I figured that the new proxy hit percentages were death to 1st Gen Roms.

2 x 12 + 5 = 29 (66% hit chance)

So at range 12, a Fed will hit with 2-3 of 4 prox photons against a cloaked Rom - causing far more damage than the Rom can afford to put into shield reinforcement.
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Dogmatix!

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #162 on: July 08, 2003, 05:27:55 pm »
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The real shame is that the ISC rear plasma will probably never work exactly the way intended. As such, they get some bloated BPVs for a weapon that many of the captains don't even charge that often due to their power curves.  




Having flown ISC rather extensively on both OP and EAW, recently, I find that the I-plasma is quite useful and not all that burdensome when used in certain ways.  The worst part, obviously, is that it gets jammed up and becomes useless.  After that, the fact that you have to go very slow at the start of a mission to get things charged is the next most burdensome thing.  Once you have them full charged AND they don't jam up, Plasma-I is pretty darned cool, in my book.


To put it another way, when offered a plasma-D variant of the CCZ (replaces I-plas with 4xD-plas), I stick with the I-plasma armed CCZ.


 
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FireSoul

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #163 on: July 08, 2003, 05:38:26 pm »
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I am an infrequent visitor to these forums, so bear with me if this is an established fact:

Will there be any further EAW patches to incorporate some if the additions to OP, namely the work on the Rom cloak?





I suggest you start looking for a copy of OP. EAW has already recieved its last and final patch as 2036.
-- Luc

Rod O'neal

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #164 on: July 08, 2003, 07:28:42 pm »
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The real shame is that the ISC rear plasma will probably never work exactly the way intended. As such, they get some bloated BPVs for a weapon that many of the captains don't even charge that often due to their power curves.  




Having flown ISC rather extensively on both OP and EAW, recently, I find that the I-plasma is quite useful and not all that burdensome when used in certain ways.  The worst part, obviously, is that it gets jammed up and becomes useless.  After that, the fact that you have to go very slow at the start of a mission to get things charged is the next most burdensome thing.  Once you have them full charged AND they don't jam up, Plasma-I is pretty darned cool, in my book.


To put it another way, when offered a plasma-D variant of the CCZ (replaces I-plas with 4xD-plas), I stick with the I-plasma armed CCZ.


 




It would be nice if F/I torps came into the script fully charged like they're supposed to. Who knows, maybe they will?  

KHHJakle

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #165 on: July 08, 2003, 07:49:05 pm »
I've got my OP...just wanted to have that info as a stick to encourage those in my league to switch to what truly looks like the better game now  

jimmi7769

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #166 on: July 08, 2003, 08:01:27 pm »
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I've got my OP...just wanted to have that info as a stick to encourage those in my league to switch to what truly looks like the better game now  




Now if we can only get the D2 servers off of EAW and onto OP.

Not even a server to mess around on right now.

The_Infiltrator

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #167 on: July 08, 2003, 09:24:13 pm »
Have an OP server without X ships and I'll play on it.

jdmckinney

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #168 on: July 09, 2003, 01:21:02 pm »
Regarding OP servers, I hear CaptJeff should be ready to roll out his campaign after the patch is released. Castrin was hosting a test server for the OP patch, so once it is announced I'm sure he'll have a server up for play. SFCX has several ideas to choose from, some of which are less involved so as not to draw players from other admins' projects (though we will need our own time for our big plans, too).

Dogmatix!

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #169 on: July 11, 2003, 04:02:17 pm »
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The real shame is that the ISC rear plasma will probably never work exactly the way intended. As such, they get some bloated BPVs for a weapon that many of the captains don't even charge that often due to their power curves.  




Having flown ISC rather extensively on both OP and EAW, recently, I find that the I-plasma is quite useful and not all that burdensome when used in certain ways.  The worst part, obviously, is that it gets jammed up and becomes useless.  After that, the fact that you have to go very slow at the start of a mission to get things charged is the next most burdensome thing.  Once you have them full charged AND they don't jam up, Plasma-I is pretty darned cool, in my book.


To put it another way, when offered a plasma-D variant of the CCZ (replaces I-plas with 4xD-plas), I stick with the I-plasma armed CCZ.


 




It would be nice if F/I torps came into the script fully charged like they're supposed to. Who knows, maybe they will?  





That would definitely be nice...


I mean..if they hold for free...why the hell would you not be carrying loaded F and I-torps around at al ltimes (assuming you haven't just fired them)?

Strafer

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #170 on: July 11, 2003, 05:09:07 pm »
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That would definitely be nice...





Unless you're on a receiving end of a R-SPZ mere seconds in the game.

Dogmatix!

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #171 on: July 11, 2003, 05:13:57 pm »
Actually...whether that's the case or not, I'd still like to see it.



 

jimmi7769

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #172 on: July 11, 2003, 06:39:09 pm »
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That would definitely be nice...





Unless you're on a receiving end of a R-SPZ mere seconds in the game.  




And that is the reason for the Spaz's existence

EmeraldEdge

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #173 on: July 11, 2003, 07:18:55 pm »
Lol, you mean other players might have to approach a Romulan ship the way all other Romulan ships approach every other races ships?  (keep your distance until your longer load time weapons are loaded)    

Toasty0

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #174 on: July 11, 2003, 07:25:03 pm »
Not sure how all you'd feel about this, but I thought that some of you might want to express your thanks to those who've spent a bit of their time and energies to birth this upcomeing patch...so...without any further ado...

 

You have my permission to either DL this image or host it yourself. Or if you cannot host the image you can directly link to it by copy&pasting the following URL Code:
http://www.toasty0.com/images/OPThanks.png



Hope you enjoy.

Best,
Jerry  

Corbomite

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #175 on: July 11, 2003, 07:36:10 pm »
Thanks Toasty that's really cool!
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SPQR Renegade001

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #176 on: July 11, 2003, 07:56:56 pm »
Thanks Toasty. I think that sums it up well. (y)  

Cleaven

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #177 on: July 11, 2003, 08:33:15 pm »
I'd rather just send a cheque, with an accompanying legal document requiring the money to be spent on premium beer.  

FireSoul

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #178 on: July 11, 2003, 09:06:04 pm »
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I'd rather just send a cheque, with an accompanying legal document requiring the money to be spent on premium beer.    




feh. I wish people would do something like that for the OP+.
Wishful thinking indeed.

Cleaven

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #179 on: July 11, 2003, 09:32:27 pm »
I know how it works in Canada. You just put a dead mouse in a bottle of beer, and take it back and say it was in there when you bought it and they give you free beer.