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FireSoul

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #120 on: July 05, 2003, 01:11:39 pm »
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It's really almost there, but it will be done when it's done.




I couldn't have said it better.
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Qob'nuH

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #121 on: July 05, 2003, 02:59:41 pm »
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It's really almost there, but it will be done when it's done.




I couldn't have said it better.  



Well, I think it could have been said better. The work and support for this patch is very much appreciated but I find such a condescending response inappropriate. This is not 10-yr-olds asking,"are we there yet?" ,it's consumers that have chosen to purchase and support this product. I don't see anything unreasonable about inquiring about an approximate  time frame in terms other than "soon" or "almost there".

I also hope that the beta-testing involves more than just those just concerned with SFB standards.In other words , let's not forget the X-ships/weapons this time around.(phaser G2!).  
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Toasty0

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #122 on: July 05, 2003, 05:28:11 pm »
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It's really almost there, but it will be done when it's done.




I couldn't have said it better.  



Well, I think it could have been said better. The work and support for this patch is very much appreciated but I find such a condescending response inappropriate. This is not 10-yr-olds asking,"are we there yet?" ,it's consumers that have chosen to purchase and support this product. I don't see anything unreasonable about inquiring about an approximate  time frame in terms other than "soon" or "almost there".

I also hope that the beta-testing involves more than just those just concerned with SFB standards.In other words , let's not forget the X-ships/weapons this time around.(phaser G2!).    



OP has X-Ships and G2s? Since when and has anyone told the beta testers yet?

Best,
Jerry  
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Klingon Fanatic

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #123 on: July 05, 2003, 05:51:30 pm »
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Quote:

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It's really almost there, but it will be done when it's done.




I couldn't have said it better.  



Well, I think it could have been said better. The work and support for this patch is very much appreciated but I find such a condescending response inappropriate. This is not 10-yr-olds asking,"are we there yet?" ,it's consumers that have chosen to purchase and support this product. I don't see anything unreasonable about inquiring about an approximate  time frame in terms other than "soon" or "almost there".

I also hope that the beta-testing involves more than just those just concerned with SFB standards.In other words , let's not forget the X-ships/weapons this time around.(phaser G2!).    



OP has X-Ships and G2s? Since when and has anyone told the beta testers yet?

Best,
Jerry  



Falls off chair, ROTFL!


Thank you folks "in the know" for giving us one form of an update. I really do appreciate it. I will consider the patch a success if the Cloak works like it does in SFC3, anything else is extra tasty gravy to me.

Qapla!

KF
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FireSoul

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #124 on: July 05, 2003, 06:07:07 pm »
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"are we there yet?"




No.

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"are we there yet?"




No.

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"are we there yet?"




No.

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"are we there yet?"




No.
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Cleaven

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #125 on: July 05, 2003, 06:24:36 pm »
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Well, I think it could have been said better. The work and support for this patch is very much appreciated but I find such a condescending response inappropriate. This is not 10-yr-olds asking,"are we there yet?" ,it's consumers that have chosen to purchase and support this product. I don't see anything unreasonable about inquiring about an approximate  time frame in terms other than "soon" or "almost there".
 



I suppose if people didn't act like 10 year olds when told about delays or mistakes or other unforseen circumstances. Most people don't act that way but those that do, ugh ...    
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David Ferrell

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #126 on: July 05, 2003, 06:41:59 pm »
That's the whole thing.  I would like to say it will be done within the next two
weeks, but what if it isn't?

We've smashed some very big bugs in this patch and the Dynaverse is now working
nearly flawlessly for both Empires and Cartels.  However, when you make this many
changes, some items will break and you have to go back and fix them, which takes
an unknown amount of time.

Thanks,

Dave  
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Pestalence

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #127 on: July 05, 2003, 07:23:31 pm »
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I will consider the patch a success if the Cloak works like it does in SFC3, anything else is extra tasty gravy to me.

Qapla!

KF  



sorry to burst your bubble.. Cloak is suppose to work as close to SFB standard as possible, not SFC 3 standard...

but testing goes well and we are stomping bugs...

David just got a new can of RAID just for the OP patch....

 
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Klingon Fanatic

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #128 on: July 05, 2003, 07:46:45 pm »
Pestalence,

Let me rephrase my concern about the cloak; what I SHOULD HAVE CORRECTLY wrote was, as long as the cloak is no longer a death trap if you use it I'll be very happy. This is an OLD concern I know....

Second, I did say 'thank you' for the update.

A little news always goes a long way to curbing all the 'are we there yet?' questions.

Thanks again to everyone "in the know" that threw us rabid fans a scrap of information.

Qapla!

KF
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3dot14

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #129 on: July 05, 2003, 08:04:33 pm »
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That's the whole thing.  I would like to say it will be done within the next two
weeks, but what if it isn't?

We've smashed some very big bugs in this patch and the Dynaverse is now working
nearly flawlessly for both Empires and Cartels.  However, when you make this many
changes, some items will break and you have to go back and fix them, which takes
an unknown amount of time.

Thanks,

Dave  


Don't forget to knock wood. You didn't expect that "big bug" either... Let's hope nothing else springs up.

and KF, if it's TNG cloak you want, probably not. That's why there is a TNG themed game... Sorry.
But I think Cloak will get some considerations to beef it up.
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The_Infiltrator

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #130 on: July 06, 2003, 01:55:49 am »
All it needs is to use the damage adjustment chart, and it will suddenly work a lot better.
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Toasty0

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #131 on: July 06, 2003, 07:15:39 am »
KF,

A true Klingon never uses a cloak...even when flying them pink-ish Rom things they call a ship.

On a serious note: I think you and many fans of the Romulan way will find the cloak "very effective" now.  In some aspects, and in my humble opine, I think the implementation of the cloak now will add a dimension to combat that SFC/EAW/OP Romulan player only dreamt about in the past.

Best,
Jerry

 
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FireSoul

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #132 on: July 06, 2003, 08:35:43 am »
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KF,
A true Klingon never uses a cloak...even when flying them pink-ish Rom things they call a ship.

On a serious note: I think you and many fans of the Romulan way will find the cloak "very effective" now.  In some aspects, and in my humble opine, I think the implementation of the cloak now will add a dimension to combat that SFC/EAW/OP Romulan player only dreamt about in the past.





Since the cat's out of the bag for cloak, I would like to say this before naysayers and doubters say anything about the cloak: it has been implemented to the closest of SFB specs as possible without changing the inner engine involved. However, it is still being tweaked due to discovered bugs.

In otherwords, the cloaking ships' BPVs will be a lot more accurate, and the cloak itself is a lot better. It's definitely not impossible to beat, but it does do its job well.

-- Luc
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The_Infiltrator

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #133 on: July 06, 2003, 10:07:52 am »
IE, it works like a SFB cloak is supposed to work; that could be the dictionary definition of the SFB cloak.

Hope the LWX arc bug has been squashed and (dare I say to hope) correct gat arcs have then been added to hydran dreads with this bug fixed.
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Toasty0

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #134 on: July 06, 2003, 02:10:42 pm »
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KF,
A true Klingon never uses a cloak...even when flying them pink-ish Rom things they call a ship.

On a serious note: I think you and many fans of the Romulan way will find the cloak "very effective" now.  In some aspects, and in my humble opine, I think the implementation of the cloak now will add a dimension to combat that SFC/EAW/OP Romulan player only dreamt about in the past.





Since the cat's out of the bag for cloak, I would like to say this before naysayers and doubters say anything about the cloak: it has been implemented to the closest of SFB specs as possible without changing the inner engine involved. However, it is still being tweaked due to discovered bugs.

In otherwords, the cloaking ships' BPVs will be a lot more accurate, and the cloak itself is a lot better. It's definitely not impossible to beat, but it does do its job well.

-- Luc  



Excuse me?

This is not something that hasn't been mentioned before, Luc. By you I might add.

So why the characterization?

I think you should keep in mind, Luc, this isn't Firesouls OP Patch.

Best,
Jerry    
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FireSoul

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #135 on: July 06, 2003, 08:03:11 pm »
It's David's patch.
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Cleaven

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #136 on: July 06, 2003, 08:20:02 pm »
There is a tale of LBJ and his party crossing the tarmac at a large USAF base in S. Vietnam. As he pauses and gazes at all the aircraft lined up a young air force aide says to him "Mr President, your helicopter is over here". His response was (remembering which state LBJ was from, so that you get the accent right), "No son, they are all my aircraft".  
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Rod O'neal

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #137 on: July 06, 2003, 09:50:29 pm »
Hearing that the cloak, or any system for that matter, is being tweaked to be *as close as possible to SFB spec* is the best news that I could hear, personally  
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Tulwar

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #138 on: July 07, 2003, 12:58:35 am »
Please, what ever you do, do NOT patch the rear ISC plasmas like you did in EAW.  You only get one shot in the entire scenairio.  
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FireSoul

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Re: There *IS* going to be another OP patch.
« Reply #139 on: July 07, 2003, 04:09:47 am »
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Please, what ever you do, do NOT patch the rear ISC plasmas like you did in EAW.  You only get one shot in the entire scenairio.  



That issue was raised in 2538, and we convinced David to not do so back then. It won't happen.
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