Topic: You know what would seriously tempt me to pay for something online... (Read 7964 times)

Dogmatix! · « **Reply #20 on:** June 06, 2003, 10:33:10 am »

In terms of any sort of GaW project....I'm much more interested in SFB canon than Star Trek canon.

Scipio_66 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 06, 2003, 02:52:18 pm »

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I was just talking with Frey just the other day (poetic, I know) about how I'd pay in advance for GaW...hell. I'd pay a lot more for GaW than is normally the price of a new game title. I'd buy multiple copies and made sure my friends who couldn't afford it had a copy.

This is how bad I want a fully functional GaW-like product.

I'd even pay a monthly fee to access to servers.

Ditto to all that. Hear, hear! Well-spoken!

-S'Cipio

Lepton1 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 06, 2003, 05:34:00 pm »

I suggest you all pray for the death of Trek in movies or on TV then. For as long as Paramount cares to hold onto the Trek rights and dole them out to publishing idiots, GAW will not be a reality. Fact is the whole Trek business is somehow an intellectual property that someone can own, eventhough it is such an accepted part of US society. Additionally I am not sure how willing ADB will be to give over its whole franchise to a live version that practically negates the use of its products.

SghnDubh · « **Reply #24 on:** June 07, 2003, 01:21:15 pm »

Someday, Dash, your dream --which many of us share-- might happen.

Until then, might I suggest that you consider playing Freelancer? Here's why.

There is a total star trek conversion mod due out by frostworks. I'm talking with Ripperman about how BattleClinic can help support that effort.

When that mod is released, I have a feeling that it will be the closest thing to a MMORPG that Trek will have.

This is why BattleClinic is now supporting Freelancer as well as SFC. I see a convergence between the two that, if a game developer is smart, will pick up upon and leverage.

My 02.

NannerSlug · « **Reply #25 on:** June 07, 2003, 01:31:31 pm »

a total trek conversion for freelancer. hmm.. those sounds promising.. plus, it is also the closest to conitous space/ ability to "warp" from point to point, etc.

interesting. we will have to wait and see.

Dash Jones · « **Reply #26 on:** June 07, 2003, 08:54:09 pm »

Currently playing Freelancer, though it doesn't come anywhere close to replacing SFC, I do like it. SFC & SFB are better, at least for me. A mod for Freelancer you say? Hmm, I might have to check that out when it comes out.

Dash Jones · « **Reply #27 on:** June 04, 2003, 06:00:37 pm »

An SFC game...mayhaps a fully fleshed out OP patch or something similar, not even a fully fledged GAW...that was available for download to be burned to CD...Yes, I think that would be temptation...don't you??? Something with all the rules...no not rules...I mean added content imagined by Taldren with lets say...Tholians...andromedans...and mayhaps somemore things...

That way...if they could actually do something like that...they could skip the expenses of the middle man and profit from it themselves...AND do their own patches without any authorization or such things...just some ideas.

In fact, now that I think of it...I might actually prepay before the game is developed. You know, they find out how many are willing to prepay, so they can see if they might earn enough to consider doing such an idea...and have the revenue to actually spend time working on said above content.

Just a nice little dream I've been having in the day at times...thought I'd share with all of you...especially Hyper...

Alidar Jarok · « **Reply #28 on:** June 04, 2003, 06:24:34 pm »

Activision would still need to take profit from them (Tholians, Feds, Kinks, and Rommies)

FireSoul · « **Reply #29 on:** June 04, 2003, 06:38:32 pm »

SFC2 EAW and OP's publisher is Interplay. Only SFC3's is Activision.

Alidar Jarok · « **Reply #30 on:** June 04, 2003, 07:32:24 pm »

Activision ownes the right to Star Trek games

FireSoul · « **Reply #31 on:** June 04, 2003, 07:59:15 pm »

.. that were made while they owned the license. These 2 games were made before that.

JMM · « **Reply #32 on:** June 04, 2003, 08:18:46 pm »

I would buy a game like that Dash, only if the dyna was stable and could handle six players, etc... at once in a single engagement. I would also like to see the timelines merged into one game, this SFC2, OP, then SFC3 has really divided the players. Can you imagine a server with thousands of people registered?

Operation Overlord can do it, Battlefield 1942 can do it, why can't Activision do it?

Star Wars Galaxies MIGHT do it, it remains to be seen

FireSoul · « **Reply #33 on:** June 04, 2003, 10:09:34 pm »

answer: SFC uses directplay

Mr. Hypergol · « **Reply #34 on:** June 05, 2003, 03:44:42 pm »

Well Dash, I appreciate you thinking of me and of what we all want.

I think SFC is pretty much going to stay dormant until Paramount gives the Trek liscensing to some other company other than Activision. Given the fact that Taldren and Activision don't seem to be getting along I think we'll have to wait until some other company can ask Taldren to make another SFC. I would not trust any other company other than Taldren to make SFC, personally. I think they were totally on the right track with the series until Activsion took it over and forced them to mutilate it with SFC3.(IMHO)

I believe Erik Bethke said that Taldren owns the source code for SFC, so perhaps they could make a non-trek based game that was SFC/SFB "under the hood" but with everything renamed to remove the Trek. For example, we'd have laser 1,2, & 3's instead of phaser 1,2, & 3's, although the damage tables (from SFB) would be the same. In this case only Amarillo Design Bureau's permission would be required. This kind of thing could work because the data behind SFB was totally developed by ADB and has nothing to do with Star Trek, i.e. there is nothing in Trek that says a phaser does such-in such damage at such-in-such range. Paramount does not own SFB based data....just the Trek overlay shall we say. SFB's/SFC could function exactly the same "as a game" no matter what everything was named. You'd of course have different ship models and race names for races like the Feds, Klingons, etc......but the game would be the same functionally. Lastly, if the game was adequately moddable, the Star Trek overlay could be added right back in by the fans.

We can only hope that Taldren could/would do something like this. Perhaps they could cut a deal with ADB to create an online game together using SFB based data.

Best of all.....you could still call it "Galaxies at War".

FireSoul · « **Reply #35 on:** June 05, 2003, 03:59:48 pm »

Personally, I would enjoy it if it was.. modable..
*wink wink*

-- Luc

Dogmatix! · « **Reply #37 on:** June 05, 2003, 04:32:19 pm »

I was just talking with Frey just the other day (poetic, I know) about how I'd pay in advance for GaW...hell. I'd pay a lot more for GaW than is normally the price of a new game title. I'd buy multiple copies and made sure my friends who couldn't afford it had a copy.

This is how bad I want a fully functional GaW-like product.

I'd even pay a monthly fee to access to servers.

Toasty0 · « **Reply #38 on:** June 05, 2003, 05:56:12 pm »

<whistles in the dark>

Given the leaps that current tech has taken over the last 18 months I wouldn't be surprised if a total rewrite of the game engine would be in order.

<looks over shoulder for any green-blooded Romulan spies hiding in the near-by dumpster>

And is Taldren ready to distribute/publish its work?

<spins around and faces a funny looking bald cat scurrying across the dark street>

Assuming the engine would have to be written from scratch does the potential market return justifiy the upfront development costs?

<a group a midgets wearing robes with "SFB" embossed scross the front sit down and chant, "There is only one true rule set...">

Should the GaW-like game follow the SFB rule set. Or, should this also be built from scratch?

<Toasty0 snaps fingers>

*POOF*

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